The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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I got a new computer pre-loaded with Windows 11. I'm a Linux fag but I want to give it a chance on a dual boot setup. Is there any recommended way to set it up for people who are autistic about disabling spyware "features" and useless shit like OneDrive and similar? Also hopefully dealing with the horrendous interface. I am aware that Windows 10 has a popular powershell script that does that but I heard it can also easily break your system if you fuck around with it too much. I found something that seems to claim to do something similar but I'm bit squirmish about downloading random scripts from GitHub and running them as admin, the least I would require before considering it is having a few of you nerds vouch for it.
 
There's a very silly update note in the newest version of PowerToys.

>File Locksmith has now an entry in the Windows 11 tier 1 context menu.

As in, the shitty new glued on context menu of Windows 11 is the "tier 1" menu, the old one that existed ever since Windows NT 4.0, everyone is used to and every piece of software adds elements to is "tier 2". :story:

I got a new computer pre-loaded with Windows 11. I'm a Linux fag but I want to give it a chance on a dual boot setup. Is there any recommended way to set it up for people who are autistic about disabling spyware "features" and useless shit like OneDrive and similar? Also hopefully dealing with the horrendous interface. I am aware that Windows 10 has a popular powershell script that does that but I heard it can also easily break your system if you fuck around with it too much. I found something that seems to claim to do something similar but I'm bit squirmish about downloading random scripts from GitHub and running them as admin, the least I would require before considering it is having a few of you nerds vouch for it.
Use ExplorerPatcher to bring back some UI and functionality improvements for the explorer and ChrisTitusTech's winutil for debloating and privacy improvements (for what you can sort of achieve).
Yeah, WinUtil for debloat and some tweaks, ExplorerPatcher for Win10 taskbar and other tweaks, Open-Shell for the old start menu, and if you're feeling adventurous, SecureUxTheme to enable custom themes, BIB3 theme for a good dark theme, and MicaForEveryone to finish up the dark theming because Win11 changed the window renderer a lot. This type of dark theme works everywhere but can get glitchy because some software is hardcoded for light themes.
 
disabled updates years ago, after hours of editing registry ......... yet Microsoft finds away. a minor problem mouse wheel stopped working ..... ran a bunch of shit, problem went away.... thing that's weird 4 or 5 people i listen to streaming had the same problem live on air within a week.
its like 1999 all over again
 
I don't appreciate the political messaging, especially since they put it right at the top of the page.

Also, fuck sand niggers.
disabled updates years ago, after hours of editing registry ......... yet Microsoft finds away. a minor problem mouse wheel stopped working ..... ran a bunch of shit, problem went away.... thing that's weird 4 or 5 people i listen to streaming had the same problem live on air within a week.
This was more or less my experience supporting Win10 users circa 2018. The weirdest shit would happen, out of the blue, no fix in sight. Try a bunch of shit, fight through all the mixed old/new UI bullshit to find what I'm looking for. Eventually fix it by accident, or don't fix it, or in a rare case, downgrade to Windows 7.

This kind of shit never happened to me or anyone I knew running Windows 7 or 8. I knew then and there I could no longer rely on Windows as a platform.
 
I don't appreciate the political messaging, especially since they put it right at the top of the page.

Also, fuck sand niggers.

This was more or less my experience supporting Win10 users circa 2018. The weirdest shit would happen, out of the blue, no fix in sight. Try a bunch of shit, fight through all the mixed old/new UI bullshit to find what I'm looking for. Eventually fix it by accident, or don't fix it, or in a rare case, downgrade to Windows 7.

This kind of shit never happened to me or anyone I knew running Windows 7 or 8. I knew then and there I could no longer rely on Windows as a platform.
I would kill to down grade my set up to win 7 but there are no driver supports
 
I would kill to down grade my set up to win 7 but there are no driver supports
I mean with less than two years of support left at the time (Win7 ESU was not a thing yet) it barely made any sense, but neither did Win10 if it didn't fucking work.
 
I don't appreciate the political messaging, especially since they put it right at the top of the page.
It irks me too, however this is the only project that does that Mica theming, and since this is an Iranian bitching about Iran's issues that aren't propagated as the current thing and it's just an irrelevant blip I'll give him a pass. Maybe you could reimplement it as a Windhawk mod, that would be neat.

If you want to see true faggotry, look at this guy's profile and repos. Especially the "terms of use" he plastered on every single one of his projects, absolute fucking spastic. The Iranian has nothing on this bitch.
 
Windows 8's issues were easy to work around. Install a 3rd party Start menu, ignore the Metrosexual bullshit. I used it from the start of the public beta until about the middle of 2018 and never had the problems people were bitching about. The core OS was in many ways a clear improvement over Windows 7, which was really just Vista SP4 without the Vista name.
Despite the fact Windows Vista had only 2 Service Packs... I am acustic sry.

ME was buggy as shit and MS should have never released it. It would have been better to sell Windows 98 for another couple years until XP was ready.
It was as faulty as first iteration and deployment of Windows XP. Gosh, even Windows Vista made a horrible start but some weebs still perceive Windows Me as ultimate shit despite it wasn't as bad as people recall it through their shitty memory. Most of the issues - as usual - came from hardware that wasn't trully supported. The progress in 5 years since release of Windows 95 was a significant leap and thus it was a hassle to keep backward compatibilities with hardware that remembered older iterations of MS-DOS.

And to add, 11 reminds me a lot of 8. I hope 12 works out better and does something actually new. They seem to be delaying it, which to me is a good thing because frankly Windows doesn't have any Mac competition anymore and normies aren't going to use Linux anyway, so they might as well take their time and do it right.
The main complain I have towards Windows 11 is this messy Control Panel/Settings windows that requires to jump between these two options to do basic things like providing admin priviliges to user. Microsoft should disband this "Admin" account long time ago because most of the users click this pop-up windows during installation unknowingly what priviliges they actually posses. Thus the change of program installation to ./user/.AppData is a good thing after all. For common user change is insignificant in overall experience of system and potentially harmfull apps are locked in abbysmall directory unlinked to any crutial OS elements.
 
The main complain I have towards Windows 11 is this messy Control Panel/Settings windows that requires to jump between these two options to do basic things like providing admin priviliges to user.
Unpopular opinion: I believe Windows 11 Settings are an improvement over Windows 10 Settings. The ones from Win10 seem like they were a leftover from Windows 8 when they wanted to make the desktop Windows to be usable on tablets, and the Win11 one actually feels like it was designed for desktop use. The main list is tidy and fits in a small footprint and all the settings are also designed with less space waste.

Of course they still fucked up by reassigning more elements from the legacy Control Panel to the new Settings app, like the Devices & Printers menu, even though it still exists there. Pro tip: I found out that you can bypass that retarded redirect if you right click Devices & Printers in the Control Panel and click "open in new window".
 
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Excuse the double post, but I just found out about the upcoming Windows 11 24H2 update and it's really interesting because they're gonna add a lot of new features.


-More Copilot which is gay and unnecessary and you'll have to cut it out when you don't care about having ChatGPT on your desktop hogging resources. IIRC all this shit is based on Edge, so killing off Edge kills off Copilot, Widgets and so on.
-One of the many features from the "why the fuck did it took them so long" genre, they're finally adding sudo so you can elevate a single process from an unelevated command line. Great change, why the fuck did it take you so long.
-Super Resolution, AKA Microsoft's venture into adding their own DLSS/FSR/XeSS directly into Windows. If they won't make it support more 3D applications then I'd say it's pretty useless if it still requires game developers to add support for it IMO.
-Energy Saver, so Microsoft is reworking power management for both laptops and desktops. Is it ESG greenwashing, is it a genuine QoL improvement for battery life and lower energy bills, we'll see.
-The quick option flyout is scrollable instead of being limited to how many tiles you can put on it. More desktop UI/UX sensibility, that's good to see.
-Changes to the Bluetooth settings, apparently to make it easier to quickly add new devices I guess, whatever.
-Voice Clarity, so something like NVIDIA Voice where it uses AI to cut away all the mic noise that's not your voice. An actually useful AI addition which is great to see.
-Speak for me, I have no idea if this is just a more sophisticated TTS system or if this is actually meant to use your voice to create a mimic of it so you can TTS when you don't have a mic at a web meeting or whatever. Will probably see some use in home office.
-Another one of those "why the fuck it took them so long", a built-in archive creator in File Explorer, so you don't have to install 7-zip. Total Commander is still superior btw
-Viewing and editing .png metadata, will get used by 3 people that don't use something like XnView already.
-More improvements to the new context menu and the new taskbar instead of focusing on feature parity of the new glued on elements with the old ones. Seriously Microsoft, how hard is it to get your new context menu to show legacy context menu options? Just parse non-MS context menu registry keys, it's not undoable.
-Support for WiFi7 that maybe 5 enthusiasts have the hardware on both ends to support, while most people are still using WiFi5 because even the WiFi6 adoption is going painfully slow. You can also view your WiFi password now and there's new diagnostic tools for WiFi issues.
-Firewall improvements, the type of shit that's configured by default and 99% of users don't need to know about.
-Some domain administration features that home users won't ever see, I'm sure some sysadmins will be happy with them though.
-Support for new protocols for better DNS security so that you automatically use encrypted DNS, good change if it works out of the box for all normies.
-Microsoft is attempting to remove old legacy settings and move them into the Settings app, yaaaaay, will never get accomplished anyway.
-Some new printer setting that I guess needs modern printers.
-Support for pairing hearing aids, I can see that a lot of people will be happy with it.
-You can listen to your microphone from the Settings app because mmsys.cpl is old therefore hard to use and bad.
-A "privacy feature" to notify you when software is asking for your location. In Windows. :story:
-Microsoft porting more PowerToys features directly into Windows 11. This is why Microsoft embraced FOSS, people will do work for them for free so then they can use it in their commercial products. :story:
-Widgets redesign, nuke Edge and never use it it's trash.
-Lock screen weather widget, so most likely an Edge based widget. Nuke Edge.
-Improvements to ReFS while MS still relies on NTFS with all it's flaws.
-Snipping Tool gets something that third party tools like ShareX had for years. Microsoft slowly catching up with the competition in their built-in tools as always.
-Copilot integrated with Notepad. I'm guessing it's just a simple text redirect function, not a full Copilot integration. So if you kill off Copilot this one Notepad feature will get broken.
-MS finally updating the Windows installer ever since it was first introduced in Vista. Adds one more click to launch the system restore function but it seems like an okay improvement for the installer.
-This here is the most Microsoft thing in the update. Hot patching. They can't do live updates like in Linux because NTFS is crap and they have been using it for over three decades now, so instead of finally making a better FS and migrating to that, they're gonna do memory patching of processes when there are security issues, but you'll still have to do full reboots to do proper updates. It's a goddamn miracle this OS hasn't completely crumbled. :story:
-Command Prompt can auto update the PATH variable, that's neat.
-One more "why did it take you so long" feature, limiting registry searches to a subtree.
-Legacy Remote Desktop Connection improvements, I guess some will find it useful if they still use it.
-Cosmetic theme color change, meh.
-MS killing off Windows Mixed Reality and Microsoft Defender Application Guard.

So yeah, a shitton of changes. I guess they finally got over the biggest hurdles with Win11 and are ready to properly expand it, and a lot of these changes are good and make sense for once. Maybe there is hope that the Windows division will finally pull their head out of their asses.
 
-Super Resolution, AKA Microsoft's venture into adding their own DLSS/FSR/XeSS directly into Windows. If they won't make it support more 3D applications then I'd say it's pretty useless if it still requires game developers to add support for it IMO.

Super Resolution is primarily targeted at 2D images and video to remove compression artifacts. They're also adding an upscaling API to DirectX, but this is just a platform-agnostic software layer that allows devs to use XeSS, DLSS, and FSR without having to write their code three times, not a fourth solution.
 
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Just found out that they're discontinuing support for Windows 10 next year. That's nice. Apparently they announced this a year ago, but this is the first I've heard of it.

At least Open Shell works on 11, so I won't need to try and get used to the faggy new layout.
 
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Just found out that they're discontinuing support for Windows 10 next year. That's nice. Apparently they announced this a year ago, but this is the first I've heard of it.

At least Open Shell works on 11, so I won't need to try and get used to the faggy new layout.
I'm going to stretch out Win10 as far as possible.
 
I'll probably be doing the same, though I'll also be trying out Linux in a VM, to see if I can get used to it.
I would consider using Linux as a daily driver if there were an easy way to do GPU passthrough to a Windows VM.
 
I am wondering what Microsoft is trying to achieve by artificially blocking older CPU's from upgrade to Win11. I ain't buying a totally new PC because my Ryzen isn't supported by some personal decision made by some twink at Microsheckel. In any case I also don't suspect any rise of Linux in overall usage but I have heard that more and more corporations are considering moving to SaaS. Which again is empowering Azure Cloud as default on Windows machines but at least it's not Windows.
 
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