Twihards

[sparklemilhouse]

no joke, i am invited to a twilight themed wedding this coming october

wow, they're about five years too late on that trend...

 

[Henry Bemis]

And you guys might be happy to know that SMeyer is focusing most of her attention on producing movies. She has her own company now, Flying Fish or whatever the hell it is. Basically, she's turning books she likes into movies. Barely a word has been breathed about the continuation of her Host series or that time-traveling cannibal mermaid shitfest she raved about a few years back.

Why is this good news? Because it's starting to sound like SMeyer is a hobbyist. She wrote some crappy books, became unbelievably successful from them, and now she's rich forever and can do whatever she wants with her time and money. She had fun with the books, but now it's time to jump into new projects like movies. In time, she'll get bored with the producing jobs and move on to something else until she fades into obscurity forever.

I reiterate: you expect a repressed Mormon housewife to have a long-standing career of any stripe before being relegated back into the kitchen?

 

[Fialovy]

Dun, if you see this message, I just want to let you know that I love you and although we have been musing about someday having a medieval/FFIV themed wedding I swear I will never make you do anything like this for our wedding, I promise, I really, really from the bottom of my heart do.

http://www.examiner.com/article/mee...t-breaking-dawn-part-1-into-their-wedding-day

 

[DH 384]

And you guys might be happy to know that SMeyer is focusing most of her attention on producing movies. She has her own company now, Flying Fish or whatever the hell it is. Basically, she's turning books she likes into movies. Barely a word has been breathed about the continuation of her Host series or that time-traveling cannibal mermaid shitfest she raved about a few years back.

Why is this good news? Because it's starting to sound like SMeyer is a hobbyist. She wrote some crappy books, became unbelievably successful from them, and now she's rich forever and can do whatever she wants with her time and money. She had fun with the books, but now it's time to jump into new projects like movies. In time, she'll get bored with the producing jobs and move on to something else until she fades into obscurity forever.

Perhaps so...question though. Are the twihards going nuts over this latest movie (I'm pretty sure it's The Host)? I'm kinda curious about this one.

The only thing that I consider is that Smeyer's going to eventually release Midnight Sun. Either soon, while Twilight's still in the collective conscience, or after Smeyer starts losing quite a bit of money in her pet projects and needs a trump card. The good news about that? The leaked version is hated by quite a few Twihards. Even they noticed that Edward's an extreme psychopath who should not be let near anybody, even moreso than in the other books. But then again, there are people who really liked it. It'll sell well, oh sure, but if the original direction is kept then it'll kill off the memories of an amazing relationship that these Twihards seem to have.

At least that will be a good thing, since this "amazing relationship" they keep speaking of pretty much amounts to spousal abuse. Domestic violence is one of my berserk buttons, so I'd hate Twilight even if it was well-written and Bella actually had a character. Really, everything that I could say about that has already been said...

 

[Niachu]

First time taking a look at this topic, and I have a few things to say.

Annoying as Twihards may be, I honestly don't think Twilight has done irreparable damage to this or future generations. People have always been crying about something ruining the youth and...everyone just kinda moves on when the fad passes. People grow up. I would be very surprised if any of these girls were at major risk for falling into an abusive relationship from these books ALONE.

SMeyer herself is a bad writer (and not too smart from what I've seen) but I don't think she deserves to be called some rotten hell bitch. Unless she's committed any great crimes I'm not aware of then I'd prefer people keep things in perspective. No "Twi-logging" if you will."

The books are shoddy, Edward and Bella are bad characters, but I don't think they're an example of some great anti-role model herald that'll doom the youth. The fans that offer animal sacrifices to Cullenism are likely to have already had some major mental issues and latched onto the great escapist fantasy that is Twilight. If a girl/woman/anyone is lacking something in real life, it's downright inevitable they'll turn to fiction to fulfill those emotional needs. It's where Mary-Sues/self-inserts/rabid shipping comes from. Heck, you can see the same thing going on in 50 Shades. It's Twilight but with porn.

To sum this up, I'm saying that Twilight is, without a doubt, a bad piece of literature that got adapted into bad pieces of cinema. It generates some deluded fans on a mass scale and its popularity is unfortunate. However, I kind of liken the blame being put on Twilight/SMeyer to putting blame on McDonalds for making someone fat. It has no nutritional content, it's made to be addictive, and there are much better things to be consuming. If it composes your entire diet to the point you swear by nothing else, I'd say there are some other health problems there that should be addressed first.

Okay, rant over. Please do continue to complain about Twilight and its stupid, silly canon, and the stupid, silly things that fans do but don't demonize Meyer or proclaim it as the death of modern culture if you can. The fact that there are just as many people who despise it and even some who acknowledge its flaws yet still indulge a bit (not unlike how one does in junk food) should be indicative that it's not.

 

[José Mourinho]

First time taking a look at this topic, and I have a few things to say.

Annoying as Twihards may be, I honestly don't think Twilight has done irreparable damage to this or future generations. People have always been crying about something ruining the youth and...everyone just kinda moves on when the fad passes. People grow up. I would be very surprised if any of these girls were at major risk for falling into an abusive relationship from these books ALONE.

SMeyer herself is a bad writer (and not too smart from what I've seen) but I don't think she deserves to be called some rotten hell bitch. Unless she's committed any great crimes I'm not aware of then I'd prefer people keep things in perspective. No "Twi-logging" if you will."

The books are shoddy, Edward and Bella are bad characters, but I don't think they're an example of some great anti-role model herald that'll doom the youth. The fans that offer animal sacrifices to Cullenism are likely to have already had some major mental issues and latched onto the great escapist fantasy that is Twilight. If a girl/woman/anyone is lacking something in real life, it's downright inevitable they'll turn to fiction to fulfill those emotional needs. It's where Mary-Sues/self-inserts/rabid shipping comes from. Heck, you can see the same thing going on in 50 Shades. It's Twilight but with porn.

To sum this up, I'm saying that Twilight is, without a doubt, a bad piece of literature that got adapted into bad pieces of cinema. It generates some deluded fans on a mass scale and its popularity is unfortunate. However, I kind of liken the blame being put on Twilight/SMeyer to putting blame on McDonalds for making someone fat. It has no nutritional content, it's made to be addictive, and there are much better things to be consuming. If it composes your entire diet to the point you swear by nothing else, I'd say there are some other health problems there that should be addressed first.

Okay, rant over. Please do continue to complain about Twilight and its stupid, silly canon, and the stupid, silly things that fans do but don't demonize Meyer or proclaim it as the death of modern culture if you can. The fact that there are just as many people who despise it and even some who acknowledge its flaws yet still indulge a bit (not unlike how one does in junk food) should be indicative that it's not.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/TwilightSucks

Kinda reminds me of this.

 

[CWCissey]

Ugh. This series. I've heard talk that the hype is finally dying now, but you'll still have lifelong fans who will treasure this as the best goddamned thing ever written.

There are three women (that I know of) in my store who love the series. Two of them are around my age, if not a little bit older, and a third one is middle-aged. All have crappy relationships; one of them is divorced and another is trying to afford a divorce.

I've never heard of a Twihard having a stable, intact relationship. That's probably why the series appeals to them: it's the ultimate happily ever after fantasy.

Actually my girlfriend of 4 years likes Twilight, but I recently told her to actually read a book with a healthier female protagonist and suggested The Millennium Trilogy.

Yes folks, I consider Lisbeth Salander, vaguely autistic, ward of the Swedish state, woman with anger issues and charged attempted murderer (as well as actual murderer even if it was self defence) Lisbeth Salander to be a healthier influence than Bella Swan.

 

[Saney]

I will state, for the record, that my queries truly sucked, and I don't blame anyone who sent me a rejection (I did get seven or eight of those. I still have them all, too). The only rejection that really hurt was from a small agent who actually read the first chapter before she dropped the axe on me. The meanest rejection I got came after Little, Brown had picked me up for a three-book deal, so it didn't bother me at all. I'll admit that I considered sending back a copy of that rejection stapled to the write-up my deal got in Publisher's Weekly, but I took the higher road.

How childish can you get?

 

[Judge Holden]

^^ To be honest, I regard the "mainstream" (as in non NuttyMadam type) Twilight fans as just another sect of people with a guilty pleasure. Hell, I genuinely enjoyed Eragon (which is also good for a sporking) of all books so I cant really criticise people who genuinely enjoy Twilight.

 

[Saney]

^^ To be honest, I regard the "mainstream" (as in non NuttyMadam type) Twilight fans as just another sect of people with a guilty pleasure. Hell, I genuinely enjoyed Eragon (which is also good for a sporking) of all books so I cant really criticise people who genuinely enjoy Twilight.

I still can't get over thr fact that the cat's name means Serious Ass.

 

[Judge Holden]

^^ To be honest, I regard the "mainstream" (as in non NuttyMadam type) Twilight fans as just another sect of people with a guilty pleasure. Hell, I genuinely enjoyed Eragon (which is also good for a sporking) of all books so I cant really criticise people who genuinely enjoy Twilight.

I still can't get over thr fact that the cat's name means Serious Ass.

Oh thats just one tiny part of the colossal shitheap that is the inheritance series. Personally I read the first two when I was 11 - 13 and liked them very much, but after that I had matured enough to see just how sporkworthy the series was (and how much of a fcking star wars rip off the first two were) and quietly moved on to stephen king without looking back. But I still quite like reading the first eragon book for nostalgia's sake, and appreciate the fact that unlike twilight it has not garnered the reputation for psychotic fans or lolcows.

 

[Saney]

Time to kickstart this thread back up again.

Spoiler

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[AtroposHeart]

You know my one of my teachers loves it, but get this. She got married at 19, had two kids, and then her husband abandoned her.

I never read Twilight, but after hearing the young weddding a baby part, I can't help but wonder if my teacher only likes it because it gives into a fantasy of what her life never was.

 

[CWCissey]

Now Stephanie Meyer is coming for our alien flicks with The Host!

 

[spaps]

Now Stephanie Meyer is coming for our alien flicks with The Host!

I heard that it was terrible.

 

[Saney]

Now Stephanie Meyer is coming for our alien flicks with The Host!

I heard that it was terrible.

I heard that its an Animorphs/Stargate rip-off, but SMeyer tries to portray the evil invading, mind-raping aliens as sympathetic.

 

[Judge Holden]

Now Stephanie Meyer is coming for our alien flicks with The Host!

I heard that it was terrible.

I heard that its an Animorphs/Stargate rip-off, but SMeyer tries to portray the evil invading, mind-raping aliens as sympathetic.

Well since the evil mind raping aliens are "so special, beautiful and inherently awesome" they are thus far beyond the reproach of mere humans. Smeyer worships the idea of not just becoming one of the "sthuper special elite", but also of being worshipped in turn by said elite, be they sthuper sparkly special vampires, or just sthuper special aliens (while depicting any other character who wants this as being an evil shrewish harpy).

 

[Saney]

Well since the evil mind raping aliens are "so special, beautiful and inherently awesome" they are thus far beyond the reproach of mere humans. Smeyer worships the idea of not just becoming one of the "sthuper special elite", but also of being worshipped in turn by said elite, be they sthuper sparkly special vampires, or just sthuper special aliens (while depicting any other character who wants this as being an evil shrewish harpy).

In his case, sthuper special elite meaning dangerous psychos who get to do whatever they want. And SMeyer wants to be someone like that. Damn it, I need a good character to calm me down.

(Oh Leah, I don't think you're an evil shrewish harpy)

 

[Judge Holden]

Well since the evil mind raping aliens are "so special, beautiful and inherently awesome" they are thus far beyond the reproach of mere humans. Smeyer worships the idea of not just becoming one of the "sthuper special elite", but also of being worshipped in turn by said elite, be they sthuper sparkly special vampires, or just sthuper special aliens (while depicting any other character who wants this as being an evil shrewish harpy).

In his case, sthuper special elite meaning dangerous psychos who get to do whatever they want. And SMeyer wants to be someone like that. Damn it, I need a good character to calm me down.

(Oh Leah, I don't think you're an evil shrewish harpy)

Just stare intently at your signature gif and lose yourself in Castiel's eyes

 

[Saney]

Well since the evil mind raping aliens are "so special, beautiful and inherently awesome" they are thus far beyond the reproach of mere humans. Smeyer worships the idea of not just becoming one of the "sthuper special elite", but also of being worshipped in turn by said elite, be they sthuper sparkly special vampires, or just sthuper special aliens (while depicting any other character who wants this as being an evil shrewish harpy).

In his case, sthuper special elite meaning dangerous psychos who get to do whatever they want. And SMeyer wants to be someone like that. Damn it, I need a good character to calm me down.

(Oh Leah, I don't think you're an evil shrewish harpy)

Just stare intently at your signature gif and lose yourself in Castiel's eyes

Well, he is dreamy.
That reminds me though. Here's a good Twilight fic, as written by someone who has a good understanding of how fucked up the entire series is (Das Mervin, who is awesome). Also a Supernatural crossover.