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I always thought the whole conversation was a ploy to get Chris to clear out some of his and Bob's stuff so Barb could get more hoard.
 
Yeah, this is just another aspect where he has zero qualms about keeping things secret. Like the wiki says, we're surprised he hasn't distributed his social security number.

I was gonna say he never gave it out because he doesn't know it, but then I realized if he didn't know it, he wouldn't be able to get any credit cards.

And about Barb and the sex doll, the impression I got from the transcript is that she felt awkward when that was brought up. I mean, go read or re-read it. She goes on and on about shit no one cares about, but when Chris brings that topic up, all she can muster is "Right, we need...we need to clean the tiles of the shower."
 
I was gonna say he never gave it out because he doesn't know it, but then I realized if he didn't know it, he wouldn't be able to get any credit cards.

A social security number is a unique identifier. And you know how Chris loves anything he can use as an identity....
 
Some people seem a bit confused by the overall content of the conversation. It's not about Barb trying to encourage Chris to be realistic about Sonichu. And it's not about Barb wanting to tidy up. Barb just wants Chris to forget about everything he's interested in so he can focus entirely on Barb. Specifically, to move/get rid of everything of his and Bob's in order to increase the size of Barb's hoard. Complete with much bitching and guilt trips. And Bob's "abusiveness" was probably him pissed off at her laying around the house all day except to buy more junk for the hoard.
 
The parenting mistake is in that they've reached a point at where they're able to have such a calm conversation about the sex doll.

If my roommate was leaving his sex dolls around the house, I don't think we'd have such a calm conversation.
I had a roommate who did that once. *sigh*

Bear in mind... Chris doesn't wash himself that often, how often do you think he cleans his doll?
About as often as Pixy washes her sex toys (i.e. never).

I always thought the whole conversation was a ploy to get Chris to clear out some of his and Bob's stuff so Barb could get more hoard.
That's what I always assumed. I've listened to the call before, so none of this was exactly new to me, but this conversation always did cement Barb's self-centeredness in my mind.
 
Yeah, this is just another aspect where he has zero qualms about keeping things secret. Like the wiki says, we're surprised he hasn't distributed his social security number.

That only because he doesn't know it. Ole Bobby was cagey and stuck it in the forbidden draw.

After all, what does he need it for? His tug-boat is already set up, he never applies for any kind of government programs to help him and godbearjesus knows he's not filling out any job applications.
 
Why was the love doll out of his bedroom? Oh right, this is the guy who jerks off in the kitchen, never mind.
 
That only because he doesn't know it. Ole Bobby was cagey and stuck it in the forbidden draw.

After all, what does he need it for? His tug-boat is already set up, he never applies for any kind of government programs to help him and godbearjesus knows he's not filling out any job applications.
Plus, how much got put into it during his month at Wendy's? Probably not even enough for a small LEGO set.
 
Even the most openly sexual people I know generally prefer not to discuss the specifics of their sex lives with their parents. No one is hiding anything, it's just understood that in a healthy parent-child relationship, the parents don't want to hear those details and the kids don't really want to discuss them. Charb are weird, especially in this respect. Being so casual about your son's sexual urges (even with a doll) is a sign that Barb has an unhealthy involvement in Chris's life. Granted, that's the understatement of the fucking month, but there is absolutely a line being crossed somewhere. This is a pretty strong sign of the "emotional incest" that's come up before, where it's suggested that Barb sees Chris as a substitute for the affection Bob wouldn't give her. She can't fuck Bob, so she'll spoon with Chris. She can't talk to Bob, so she'll tell Chris stuff she probably shouldn't.

I think there's a good reason it's so bothersome. It's a red flag that something ain't right there.


I never really dwelt on the abuse aspect before. I always chalked it up to her thinking of Chris as a retard.

I have a family member at a nursing home and at that nursing home theres a woman whos possibly suffering from some sort of dementia. Whenever you talk to her she's basically incoherent. So she'll say something to the effect of "Carol really was the nicest lady please call her and make sure the milk out on the porch before the cows come home..." before she literally just stops speaking any discernible language and babbles. But shes the sweetest lady and seems to really enjoy these conversations so everyone loves talking to her, myself included. I tell her about my day, my job, sometimes the more PG aspects of my love life, whatever the fuck. It really doesnt matter because she probably doesn't really understand me. All she really cares is that I''m talking to her.

I always imagined Barb often views Chris in a similar light. I'm sure in her own way she loves Chris even if shes done a terrible job at parenting him and has/is being abusive. But effectively she talks to Chris as if hes a houseplant or something. To me it seems like she sees no problem in over sharing with Chris because she doesn't feel like he can truly grasp what shes talking about anyway.
 
Even the most openly sexual people I know generally prefer not to discuss the specifics of their sex lives with their parents. No one is hiding anything, it's just understood that in a healthy parent-child relationship, the parents don't want to hear those details and the kids don't really want to discuss them. Charb are weird, especially in this respect. Being so casual about your son's sexual urges (even with a doll) is a sign that Barb has an unhealthy involvement in Chris's life. Granted, that's the understatement of the fucking month, but there is absolutely a line being crossed somewhere. This is a pretty strong sign of the "emotional incest" that's come up before, where it's suggested that Barb sees Chris as a substitute for the affection Bob wouldn't give her. She can't fuck Bob, so she'll spoon with Chris. She can't talk to Bob, so she'll tell Chris stuff she probably shouldn't.

I think there's a good reason it's so bothersome. It's a red flag that something ain't right there.

I think this is something that gets overlooked all too often. Chris may not be having sex with his mother or even fantasizing about it (though with Chris you never know; that boy always manages to find a NEW low... remember his bellydancer dream?) but their relationship is still weird and unhealthy, from him talking so frankly about his sex doll to spooning with his mom. I think you are right that he became an emotional crutch for Barb. She's long since been post-menopausal, isn't very attractive, and has a terrible personality; we know Bob was sleeping in a separate bed for crying out loud. Its quite likely that Chris fulfilled her needs, at least emotionally speaking, by simply cuddling her and sleeping with her.

And yes, no matter how you look at it, its still bloody weird, creepy and wrong, but at 14 Branchland Court, that shit passed for normal...
 
I never really dwelt on the abuse aspect before. I always chalked it up to her thinking of Chris as a exceptional individual.

I have a family member at a nursing home and at that nursing home theres a woman whos possibly suffering from some sort of dementia. Whenever you talk to her she's basically incoherent. So she'll say something to the effect of "Carol really was the nicest lady please call her and make sure the milk out on the porch before the cows come home..." before she literally just stops speaking any discernible language and babbles. But shes the sweetest lady and seems to really enjoy these conversations so everyone loves talking to her, myself included. I tell her about my day, my job, sometimes the more PG aspects of my love life, whatever the fuck. It really doesnt matter because she probably doesn't really understand me. All she really cares is that I''m talking to her.

I always imagined Barb often views Chris in a similar light. I'm sure in her own way she loves Chris even if shes done a terrible job at parenting him and has/is being abusive. But effectively she talks to Chris as if hes a houseplant or something. To me it seems like she sees no problem in over sharing with Chris because she doesn't feel like he can truly grasp what shes talking about anyway.
Eh, it'd be like if this woman talked about the aliens coming to bring her cheeseburgers. You would ignore her all the time, because that's just crazy person talk. But then you start seeing aliens trot in to hand her cheeseburgers.
I think this is something that gets overlooked all too often. Chris may not be having sex with his mother or even fantasizing about it (though with Chris you never know; that boy always manages to find a NEW low... remember his bellydancer dream?) but their relationship is still weird and unhealthy, from him talking so frankly about his sex doll to spooning with his mom. I think you are right that he became an emotional crutch for Barb. She's long since been post-menopausal, isn't very attractive, and has a terrible personality; we know Bob was sleeping in a separate bed for crying out loud. Its quite likely that Chris fulfilled her needs, at least emotionally speaking, by simply cuddling her and sleeping with her.

And yes, no matter how you look at it, its still bloody weird, creepy and wrong, but at 14 Branchland Court, that shit passed for normal...
This, also she went on a violent rage when he tried to sleep in his own bedroom.
 
Many thanks to you good sir, SkyRaider. I also noticed a long time ago that the transcription wasn't very accurate, but I was never willing to take the time to fix it because it's such a long block of conversation. I'm glad this has been redone!
 
This, also she went on a violent rage when he tried to sleep in his own bedroom.
Wait, what? I know she was forcing Chris to sleep around her and wasn't letting him use his own room, but she's been violent? Like physically abusive or just screaming and tarding out?
 
In some parts of the country they call shopping carts "wagons". I'm going to go ahead and believe that Barb stole a shopping cart to take her barbage around town with.
You see, all this time we've been saying that Barb has no forward planning and no sense of the future, yet right here we see clear evidence to the contrary. She's already prepared for her inevitable descent into becoming a homeless bag lady come September. No doubt she's already rehearsing her incoherent rants about the "guv'mint spyin' on [her] with space-rays." Madam, I salute you!
 
You see, all this time we've been saying that Barb has no forward planning and no sense of the future, yet right here we see clear evidence to the contrary. She's already prepared for her inevitable descent into becoming a homeless bag lady come September. No doubt she's already rehearsing her incoherent rants about the "guv'mint spyin' on [her] with space-rays." Madam, I salute you!

mind if I ask and sorry if I am out of the loop does everyone think they will be homeless in september?
 
Did no-one bother to teach this 'tard proper English?

Are you fucking serious? He wasn't capable of forming sentences well so his parents had to speak to him in the only way that he could understand and conceivably respond. Jesus Christ, I can't believe that's even something someone on this forum would say. I thought we were more tolerant when it came to autism than that.
 
mind if I ask and sorry if I am out of the loop does everyone think they will be homeless in september?

It's my understanding that the Chandlers' insurance companies will cease paying for their lodging at the end of August. After that point, popular belief is that the Chandlers will not be able or allowed to stay at their rental home and will be forced out. With all information pointing to 14BLC still being uninhabitable (officially this time :alog:) and no family or friends to stay with, the Chandlers do not appear to have a place to go.

That is the general reasoning behind the "CWC Homeless Sept. '14!" chatter.
 
I think this is something that gets overlooked all too often. Chris may not be having sex with his mother or even fantasizing about it (though with Chris you never know; that boy always manages to find a NEW low... remember his bellydancer dream?) but their relationship is still weird and unhealthy, from him talking so frankly about his sex doll to spooning with his mom. I think you are right that he became an emotional crutch for Barb. She's long since been post-menopausal, isn't very attractive, and has a terrible personality; we know Bob was sleeping in a separate bed for crying out loud. Its quite likely that Chris fulfilled her needs, at least emotionally speaking, by simply cuddling her and sleeping with her.

And yes, no matter how you look at it, its still bloody weird, creepy and wrong, but at 14 Branchland Court, that shit passed for normal...
Chris is essentially Barbs version of Linus' blanket, only smellier and less self sufficient.

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