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The way I see it, barb viewed Chris' sex doll in the same way dog owners view that one stuffed toy or cushion that their dog always humps.

Onto the conversation, it highlights so well that life in the Chandler household was just a constant stream of blame and counter blame, passing the buck, and generally being completely unable to accept responsibility for anything. It must have been hell for Bob with his crazy wife and retarded son being a united front against him and his "abusiveness"
 
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Anchuent Christory said:
The way I see it, barb viewed Chris' sex doll in the same way dog owners view that one stuffed toy or cushion that their dog always humps.
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You're probably on the right track. Still, it's a bit different when the dog orders his own hump toy on Adam & Eve, which arrives with a few "Classy Lassie" DVDs and some kibble-scented lube.

Anyway, I've heard that parents of adult children with severe retardation will, on occasion, take their kids to a brothel to get them laid. Why? Because the retards like sex (to be fair, who doesn't?). Apparently venting their sexual frustrations makes the tards easier to deal with for a while. They're not able to live outside the home and can't form adult relationships, so if they're gonna get their freak on, prostitution's the way to go. The concept really made me uncomfortable for a lot of reasons. For one, being a prostitute has to be unpleasant enough without having to do it with someone who's mentally a child. Second, it doesn't seem right to expose a mentally challenged person to this, when they can't understand the risks or social stigma involved. Third... and here's where we come back to Barb... something ain't right if you're the parent of a retarded adult and you spend ANY amount of time wondering if your tard is busting a nut often enough.
 
ChurchOfGodBear said:
Anyway, I've heard that parents of adult children with severe retardation will, on occasion, take their kids to a brothel to get them laid. Why? Because the retards like sex (to be fair, who doesn't?). Apparently venting their sexual frustrations makes the tards easier to deal with for a while. They're not able to live outside the home and can't form adult relationships, so if they're gonna get their freak on, prostitution's the way to go. The concept really made me uncomfortable for a lot of reasons. For one, being a prostitute has to be unpleasant enough without having to do it with someone who's mentally a child. Second, it doesn't seem right to expose a mentally challenged person to this, when they can't understand the risks or social stigma involved. Third... and here's where we come back to Barb... something ain't right if you're the parent of a retarded adult and you spend ANY amount of time wondering if your tard is busting a nut often enough.
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Yeeek. I have a friend who used to work with mentally retarded teenagers. She's pretty good-looking, and yeah, she said that it was a little difficult to deal with the guys. Apparently the big problem was that they didn't quite get where the boundaries were (oh hai Megan).
 
Tragi-Chan said:
Yeeek. I have a friend who used to work with mentally retarded teenagers. She's pretty good-looking, and yeah, she said that it was a little difficult to deal with the guys. Apparently the big problem was that they didn't quite get where the boundaries were (oh hai Megan).
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I've volunteered with a lot of special ed kids and my friend worked at a daycare thing for autistic preteens for a while, so between us we've got a lot of Roman hands stories. My sister also worked with an autistic guy who would tell anyone who would listen about how sexy women looked in running clothes. Boundaries doesn't even star to cover it.
 
As I've mentioned before, I'm a music therapy student, and one of the things we do as students is see legitimate music therapy clients both on and off the campus. On campus, most of the clients are children or young adults with retardation, autism, developmental delays, Down syndrome, etc. One day I was sitting on the couch outside the music therapy clinic working on something when one of the clients, who was 13, came up and sat down next to me. A little closer than normal, but then, with autism comes trouble with the concept of "personal space". His speech was extremely stunted and incredibly repetitive, and he was saying, "Touch girl? No touch girl." His parents explained afterward that he had just hit puberty and was wishing to get physical with girls, and they had to keep telling him, "No touch girl." But the thing is, he never touched me, he just would say "Touch girl?" and either he or someone else would respond with "No touch girl."

His autism was clearly more pronounced than Chris', and yet he never touched anyone despite vocalizing a wish to. That says something about Chris
 
CalmMyTits said:
So I wonder if part of Barb's laziness was in response to her son's laziness, she thought if he wasn't gonna help her clean, then fuck you! Look at what happened with the spaghetti, they didn't want it so she stopped cooking for them, so maybe she got tired of Chris being a lazy little shit and stopped cleaning up after him.
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I can see that. Although she has the mind of a child when it comes to grudges and vindictiveness. She was harping on about that spaghetti for ten years.
 
Why the fuck would Barb want Chris to put Kimmi in the utility room wtf :cryblood:
 
It seems emotional immaturity was all around in the household. Whoever could invoke the most anger/guilt/fear in another would get their way. How many times have we said Chris only has one asset, and that's pity? How many times have we seen him rage to get his way? Spoiler: there's a major section of the CWCKi devoted to it.

Now we see where he gets it from. Chris couldn't make his parents fear him, but he sure as hell could get mad and make them feel guilty.
 
Tragi-Chan said:
Yeeek. I have a friend who used to work with mentally retarded teenagers. She's pretty good-looking, and yeah, she said that it was a little difficult to deal with the guys. Apparently the big problem was that they didn't quite get where the boundaries were (oh hai Megan).
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At first that could have been the issue with Megan, but she quickly made it very clear where those boundaries were; what happened after that was all Chris.
 
ChurchOfGodBear said:
You're probably on the right track. Still, it's a bit different when the dog orders his own hump toy on Adam & Eve, which arrives with a few "Classy Lassie" DVDs and some kibble-scented lube.

Anyway, I've heard that parents of adult children with severe retardation will, on occasion, take their kids to a brothel to get them laid. Why? Because the retards like sex (to be fair, who doesn't?). Apparently venting their sexual frustrations makes the tards easier to deal with for a while. They're not able to live outside the home and can't form adult relationships, so if they're gonna get their freak on, prostitution's the way to go. The concept really made me uncomfortable for a lot of reasons. For one, being a prostitute has to be unpleasant enough without having to do it with someone who's mentally a child. Second, it doesn't seem right to expose a mentally challenged person to this, when they can't understand the risks or social stigma involved. Third... and here's where we come back to Barb... something ain't right if you're the parent of a retarded adult and you spend ANY amount of time wondering if your tard is busting a nut often enough.
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Not that I disagree with any of this, but we might be reading too much into the fact that Barb didn't comment about the sex doll. Hypothetically, she could have been uncomfortable with it and had expressed some disapproval earlier, but didn't get anywhere fighting it. Just because she is against it doesn't mean she has to make a big fuss every time she comes across it.

I am inclined to think the truth is somewhere in the middle. If you asked her, "Would you like you son to have a sex doll?" she might have said no, but she didn't give enough of a shit to make a big stand against it. I don't think it would be unreasonable for her to conclude that because Chris went to the trouble and expense to order it, it was a big deal to him and not a huge problem worth a fight. Maybe she thought putting it in the utility closet would be a good middle ground.

Blow-up sex dolls are a little silly. If you are paying for sex, the blowing should go the other way.
 
timtommy said:
Not that I disagree with any of this, but we might be reading too much into the fact that Barb didn't comment about the sex doll. Hypothetically, she could have been uncomfortable with it and had expressed some disapproval earlier, but didn't get anywhere fighting it. Just because she is against it doesn't mean she has to make a big fuss every time she comes across it.
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What you're saying sounds reasonable, but when has Barb ever not made a big fuss over small things? This is a woman who yells and threatens her autistic son when he balks at getting her q-sands because he's in the middle of playing pokymans.
I am inclined to think the truth is somewhere in the middle. If you asked her, "Would you like you son to have a sex doll?" she might have said no, but she didn't give enough of a shit to make a big stand against it. I don't think it would be unreasonable for her to conclude that because Chris went to the trouble and expense to order it, it was a big deal to him and not a huge problem worth a fight. Maybe she thought putting it in the utility closet would be a good middle ground.
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I really don't think Barb gave (or gives) a rat's ass about Chris' property. In all likelihood Barb just wanted Chris to move his doll because she wanted the space for more barbage.
 
Coldgrip said:
What you're saying sounds reasonable, but when has Barb ever not made a big fuss over small things? This is a woman who yells and threatens her autistic son when he balks at getting her q-sands because he's in the middle of playing pokymans.
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If she just politely said "Would you get me some q-sands when you get the chance?" no q-sands would emerge. Barb is crazy and irresponsible, and has probably done a lot more harm than good to Chris. But living with Chris isn't easy.
Coldgrip said:
I really don't think Barb gave (or gives) a rat's ass about Chris' property. In all likelihood Barb just wanted Chris to move his doll because she wanted the space for more barbage.
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No, she doesn't. But Chris does. If she wants to get rid of something that belongs to Chris, there is going to be some pushback. She has to evaluate whether the pushback is worth it.
It was in Chris room, as well, which was always a fairly barbage free zone (excepting Chris himself). The utility closet, on the other hand is probably prime barbage territory.

I think it is hilarious how calmly Chris and Barb discuss the sex doll. But in terms of bad parenting, this is way way down the list. I am not convinced it is a parenting mistake, at all frankly.
 
timtommy said:
I think it is hilarious how calmly Chris and Barb discuss the sex doll. But in terms of bad parenting, this is way way down the list. I am not convinced it is a parenting mistake, at all frankly.
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The parenting mistake is in that they've reached a point at where they're able to have such a calm conversation about the sex doll.

If my roommate was leaving his sex dolls around the house, I don't think we'd have such a calm conversation.
 
Marvin said:
The parenting mistake is in that they've reached a point at where they're able to have such a calm conversation about the sex doll.

If my roommate was leaving his sex dolls around the house, I don't think we'd have such a calm conversation.
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Yeah, to clarify my earlier point. The WTF-Factor isn't that Chris has a sex doll, or that Barb knows he has a sex doll... it's that they can discuss it as if they're trying to figure out if the sofa looks better on the left side of the living room or the right.

Bear in mind... Chris doesn't wash himself that often, how often do you think he cleans his doll?
 
ChurchOfGodBear said:
Yeah, to clarify my earlier point. The WTF-Factor isn't that Chris has a sex doll, or that Barb knows he has a sex doll... it's that they can discuss it as if they're trying to figure out if the sofa looks better on the left side of the living room or the right.

Bear in mind... Chris doesn't wash himself that often, how often do you think he cleans his doll?
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Doesn't have to, he just fucks them until they puncture and then buys a new one.

Also one must remember when it comes to the sex doll, Chris would later be so open with it that he would take it out into the front yard and film fantasy dates with Jackie using it. It's amazing how comfortable he became with it.
 
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KillerKarlKox said:
Does have to, he just fucks them until they puncture and then buys a new one.

Also one must remember when it comes to the sex doll, Chris would later be so open with it that he would take it out into the front yard and film fantasy dates with Jackie using it. It's amazing how comfortable he became with it.
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Yeah, this is just another aspect where he has zero qualms about keeping things secret. Like the wiki says, we're surprised he hasn't distributed his social security number.
 
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