Warhammer 40k

[Lightning's Heraldry]

but in my experience trying to use heavy body acrylics to blend that way just doesn't work as well so I'd rather just use oil paints.

I can understand that. Sometimes I just don't want my paints blending as much as they would with oils. This is admittedly only as useful in very small spots that need higher contrast. Which is also the only time I swap from oils to acrylics in general, so I can bypass dry times. As long as you let oils or acrylics fully cure/dry then you can pretty freely use them one over the other anyways.

A centerpiece you're going to be putting dozens of hours into, sure. 30 models for troops? I'd never have anything done if I tried to paint basic stuff the same way.

This is also a fair point, I don't do a lot of army painting. I prefer skirmish or at least combat patrol or smaller. I think a big reason is by the time I finish the 30th model I am pretty bored of a general aesthetic anyways? I got the skaventide box's skaven half off ebay back when it launched, still haven't painted it because by the time I got the last of them built I was already getting bored.
Of course this has inadvertently helped me in that I am always branching out into other manufacturers too. I am currently ramping up to finish a Warcry warband I played against a friend on Tabletop Sim a fair bit and all my chaos marauders are set to be from Tre Manor's Redbox Miniatures instead of GW because the GW plastics are not something I like the look of. I do have a metal juggerlord I have for the band as a Karkadrak proxy though.

acrylic pumice medium from golden

Haven't used it before. What sets it apart from mod podge and sand in your opinion? Is it different enough to be worth picking up or is it similar enough to not really be worth bothering if you have alternatives?

more common than having a blick local

I don't have a blick locally, they pretty frequently do free shipping on orders over a certain price though and usually I just wait to get a big enough order together to get my shipping for free. I just recently restocked some oils I was low on because blick is almost always running some kind of sale.
Speaking of, people should be aware of sales for places they buy from often. Michaels pretty commonly has sales on windsor and newton oils, like buy 1 get 1s, and these are always great chances to stock up on cheaper quality oils for doing big washes. I don't like using my expensive oils for washes when a cheaper oil does the same thing as long as it's the same pigment.

 

[Male Idiot]

Votann lore doesn't really step on the toes of anything though,(Which I suppose is arguably a problem because they might as well not exist) meanwhile fans of oldcrons had their faction permanently ruined.

Yeah Votans are just... starcraft midgets.

They did loose all the unique charm amd visual dwarfiness of the squats however, being even more bland and generic than primaris.

They are the avoved of the 40k, the most tasteless and unremarkable of barely does something factions that is a nothingburger.

 

[p1138]

Haven't used it before. What sets it apart from mod podge and sand in your opinion? Is it different enough to be worth picking up or is it similar enough to not really be worth bothering if you have alternatives?

It's one example, but they make a lot of mediums(so does liquitex and others). Maintaining consistency would be why. There's the pumice stuff, mediums with fiber in it, crackle medium, thickeners, etc. Again, different perspective of long term army painting vs smaller and more complex projects.

I don't have a blick locally, they pretty frequently do free shipping on orders over a certain price though and usually I just wait to get a big enough order together to get my shipping for free. I just recently restocked some oils I was low on because blick is almost always running some kind of sale.

Right, but if someone has a Michael's in a local strip mall when they're going out shopping for something else it's easy enough to pop in and just look around, and like I said the liquitex and golden displays tend to have swatches. Shopping on their website I'd only really recommend if you already know what you want.

Yeah Votans are just... starcraft midgets.

They did loose all the unique charm amd visual dwarfiness of the squats however, being even more bland and generic than primaris.

They are the avoved of the 40k, the most tasteless and unremarkable of barely does something factions that is a nothingburger.

Even the one BL novel they have so far is boring as shit.

 

[Lightning's Heraldry]

It's one example, but they make a lot of mediums(so does liquitex and others).

Yeah I have and use their crackle medium, I just haven't seen the one you mentioned so I figured I would ask if it was worth it. I consider crackle medium worth it because it does something not really replicable through just mod podge and spackling/sand, for example. Still have yet to find a good alternative for snow effect, so I still use AK for that.
I am going to be trying some bulk clear low viscosity two part epoxy here soon to see if I can get a better deal compared to buying "water effect" stuff from AK because its pretty expensive too.

 

[Mr Clark]

They are overpriced for what they are (a strip of LEDs basically) If you can spare the desk space go for it, but a clamp-on arm LED lamp will do just fine.

Cheers.

I know i could build it myself but heat/safety is defs a concern. Only one I found that has any kind of vent for heat to escape.. The GSW one caused clips to pop off during use (from some vids ive watched) and I dont trust Temu.

The real solution is to 3d print the frame and use leds but dont have a 3d printer.

I want a 3d printer for bases and terrain mostly but I havent started the research part of that adventure yet. Will be my next hobby purchase probably.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

Yeah Votans are just... starcraft midgets.

They did loose all the unique charm amd visual dwarfiness of the squats however, being even more bland and generic than primaris.

They are the avoved of the 40k, the most tasteless and unremarkable of barely does something factions that is a nothingburger.

It's truly inspiring how GW managed to make space dwarves uninteresting. No one is asking them to reinvent the wheel. If they had done the bare minimum and made them the most stereotypical dwarves, but in space I'd still be happy. I want funny little men with big beards, an unnatural tolerance for alcohol, and an unmitigated hatred for knife ears. Honestly they should have stolen everything from Deep Rock Galactic. Or make them a foil to Orcs. Love me axe, love me Kin, 'ate green skins. Simple as.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

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Crackheads are up next week alongside a very interesting book release that is sadly missing the “In Wolves Clothing” story. Hideous cover though.

I was zooming in on the photos they had on WarCom today and damned if I'm not falling more in love with these warpdust-huffing bastards by the day. The bare heads they've got are definitely hitting the "fucked-up Hellraiser lunatics" vibe I was hoping for. I'm already trying to figure out what kinds of obnoxious colors I want to paint them.

 

[Steinercard]

I think the current tourist invasion would stop or at least be reduced if we went back to understanding that if you don't play the wargame you aren't a real fan. We used to understand this before the "Do whatever it's all heckin valid" crowd came in.

 

[Mr Clark]

It's truly inspiring how GW managed to make space dwarves uninteresting. No one is asking them to reinvent the wheel. If they had done the bare minimum and made them the most stereotypical dwarves, but in space I'd still be happy. I want funny little men with big beards, an unnatural tolerance for alcohol, and an unmitigated hatred for knife ears. Honestly they should have stolen everything from Deep Rock Galactic. Or make them a foil to Orcs. Love me axe, love me Kin, 'ate green skins. Simple as.

Agreed. Theres so much room to make them interesting but there is a complete absence of effort from GW.

I got a mate who loves Dwarves in every fantasy universe. He only plays them in DnD. He loves their near Norf FC personalities.
Fucking hates Votann. Boring. Dont care for them, simple as.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

I got a mate who loves Dwarves in every fantasy universe. He only plays them in DnD. He loves their near Norf FC personalities.
Fucking hates Votann. Boring. Dont care for them, simple as.

For me it’s the rifleman from WC3.



This but in space would’ve been awesome for votann. Just heavy clunky blunderbusses. And keep votann just as a Necromunda kind of deal rather than whole armies. Maybe a kill team.

 

[Humble Architect]

I was zooming in on the photos they had on WarCom today and damned if I'm not falling more in love with these warpdust-huffing bastards by the day. The bare heads they've got are definitely hitting the "fucked-up Hellraiser lunatics" vibe I was hoping for. I'm already trying to figure out what kinds of obnoxious colors I want to paint them.

The best part of an EC force?

All the colour schemes, my guys are bound by one similarity, the purple shader I use to sorta convey the visual corruption, some guys are in Heresy schemes (of which they have many), some are in black and pink, one guy is blue, my Flawless are entirely in metallics, the warlord is likewise GOOOOOOOLLLLLLLDDDDD and blinged to the bones, every man is his own monument to himself.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Posting some tips

 

[East_Clintwood]

I miss when GW used to encourage shit like this, my favourite was always the deodorant hover tank:


I remember last year when we finally got my gaming room finished and I could take all my old shit out of storage and I found my old LotR strategy stuff, including the magazines. So many cool tips and guides on building terrain. I even still had the wooden BBQ skewer palisades/encampment I'd built when I was like 12 or 13. It briefly tempted me to get back into it, then I went to the GW website and saw they were charging £50+ for their shitty watchtower and palisade, not to mention the fact the basic troops were the original limited sculpts but somehow nearly 3x the price.

 

[FinnSven]

Yeah Votans are just... starcraft midgets.

They did loose all the unique charm amd visual dwarfiness of the squats however, being even more bland and generic than primaris.

They are the avoved of the 40k, the most tasteless and unremarkable of barely does something factions that is a nothingburger.

Agreed. Theres so much room to make them interesting but there is a complete absence of effort from GW.

I got a mate who loves Dwarves in every fantasy universe. He only plays them in DnD. He loves their near Norf FC personalities.
Fucking hates Votann. Boring. Dont care for them, simple as.

For me it’s the rifleman from WC3.

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This but in space would’ve been awesome for votann. Just heavy clunky blunderbusses. And keep votann just as a Necromunda kind of deal rather than whole armies. Maybe a kill team.

Again, showing my age, but Squats were obviously literally Fantasy Dwarves in space back in the 80-90s WH40K Rogue trader rulebook times.


That one for clarity!

Might be wrong, but as far as I remember, Squats were both Imperial Citizens/Troops but could play as their own independent army.
Like Guardsmen, but with more of a distinct lore and potential status as separate from the Imperium.

The designers originally based them in part on biker gangs, and early iterations had them driving chopper style war bikes.

There were Guardsman army lists including Squats as Abhuman specialist troops, along with Ogryns, Ratlings, and Beastmen, (which they called something else. but effectively they were the same thing as Chaos beastmen, just in Imperial colours).
And there were Pure Squat Army lists, which it seemed to be the player discretion as whether they were Independent Squats or a specific imperial unit of Squats.
To my recollection, there was not an actual specified Squat Faction, it was just that they had the freedom to fight as their own army within the lore.
If anyone knows better, please correct me!

At the time it seemed like Warhammer Fantasy Players who also played WH40K didn't like the concept of Space Dwarves being Imperials, as the Warhammer Fantasy Dwarves were in lore generally friendly to man and the Empire but were certainly not part of the Empire.
There were even Games/battles described in White Dwarf magazines which were scenarios like Wood Elves and Dwarves uniting against Empire forces.

I honestly can't say how popular Squat models were then, but I do recall being surprised finding a few years later that they had been totally "retconned" and were absent from model stores and army lists entirely.

My personal Semi Theory is that stuff like this depends on who is the key decision maker in GW at the time and if they like an army or not.

 

[isalaide]

Please do not fuck up our Tyranids any more than they are currently fucked, please. It has been a long, long war and I just want to paint spiny death beetles in peace now.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Posting some tips

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I miss when GW used to encourage shit like this, my favourite was always the deodorant hover tank:
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I remember last year when we finally got my gaming room finished and I could take all my old shit out of storage and I found my old LotR strategy stuff, including the magazines. So many cool tips and guides on building terrain. I even still had the wooden BBQ skewer palisades/encampment I'd built when I was like 12 or 13. It briefly tempted me to get back into it, then I went to the GW website and saw they were charging £50+ for their shitty watchtower and palisade, not to mention the fact the basic troops were the original limited sculpts but somehow nearly 3x the price.

This stuff gives me mad nostalgia when you look at the cardboard terrain that was once commercially available. Take a look at the old bastion cardboard kit compared to the plastic version. I have three of the plastic painted up but I'd buy the hell out of any of the old cardboard sets if they were put up made to order.

 

[Cats]

I'm painting this Death Knight mini and decided to try my hand at glowing runes/object source lighting. This is my first attempt at it, it looks better in person but still pretty neat on camera despite being a little washed out from the sunlight. In person you can see the glow on the red cape much easier. Really cool effect I can't wait to do more of this with some more contrasting colors




edit: It looks really cool with the color filter on my phone turned on:



Not quite this glowy in person but it looks less washed out for sure, you can see more of the glow glaze I made.

 

[EleventySeven]

So gentlemen, the vaguely chaos-aligned rogue trader game has reached an interesting moment. My rogue trader has recently liberated/taken over some formerly tau controlled human worlds. In the most previous session, we'd checked out a world that had been set up as a pleasure planet for cold traders by the rogue trader house that formerly owned it. Some convoluted scheme had gone down where the rogue trader had betrayed and killed and looted a bunch of criminals so we broadcasted this to the entire sector anonymously via the priests to kick em down a notch under the guise of lauding them as heroes for ridding the expanse of such horrid criminals and heretics.

Unfortunately, as we're on the station doing acquisition tests for project "Khornate-daemon Grenade Launcher" supplies and generally planning to go loot what that disgraced house no longer can control, an ordo xenos inquisitor arrived behind my half-daemonic rogue trader. Now, we'd known this guy for a while and had done some stuff for him like delivering eldar soul stones to him, cleverly disguised as "Potato substitute substitute". He lent us the services of an eldar harlequin who owed him a favor for a while. We'd even promised to get him a tau battlesuit when we could. So when we'd sent his adept (spy) to go tell him we'd found a source for his suit (the definitely legal and legitimate "Imperial Protectorate" we'd established where tau served the Imperium openly and tech-heresy was written on the sign), he decided to find out what had scared his adept so fucking much. The chaos vvitch is currently away from the ship with his cadre of mostly female, mostly naked sycophants for the time being, but the ship does still have loyal tau fire and earth caste as well as an ork "Cultureal Attack-y" as one of our party members.

How fucked are we? Can we just pray that this guy is turbo-radical and that we don't have to kill him and book it into tau or chaos space?

 

[Snekposter]

It's truly inspiring how GW managed to make space dwarves uninteresting. No one is asking them to reinvent the wheel. If they had done the bare minimum and made them the most stereotypical dwarves, but in space I'd still be happy. I want funny little men with big beards, an unnatural tolerance for alcohol, and an unmitigated hatred for knife ears. Honestly they should have stolen everything from Deep Rock Galactic. Or make them a foil to Orcs. Love me axe, love me Kin, 'ate green skins. Simple as.

That's exactly what the OG Squats were.

Stereotypical Space Dorf mixed with American bikers, or in other words two groups who you would expect to have beards that reach to their beer bellies.

Some of the initial art looked promising, like space dwarves with really advanced technology, but then GW just made them a bunch of short humans, forgetting that dwarves have entirely different proportions than humans do, and perhaps most horrifyingly, the most important part of being a dwarf, the ugly ass face only partially covered up by a manly beard, was completely dropped.

So now they're just really technologically advanced abhumans who worship some kooky AI "ancestors" without any of the actual dwarf aesthetics to them.

How fucked are we? Can we just pray that this guy is turbo-radical and that we don't have to kill him and book it into tau or chaos space?

You're completely fucked and I recommend you kill him, blame it on the remnants of that disgraced house of other rogue rogue traders, and then find a way to pretend to be the saviors of the local area afterwards.

 

[EleventySeven]

You're completely fucked and I recommend you kill him, blame it on the remnants of that disgraced house of other rogue rogue traders, and then find a way to pretend to be the saviors of the local area afterwards.

The plan was to scoop up the cold trading connections of that other rogue trader house in the aftermath, so that may be a logical continuation. And we can definitely take him in a fight. Fortunately, the seneschal has already been working on a plan ever since the adept insulted his tradecraft. But the thing is, he doesn't seem to be too concerned since he showed up surrounded by our ship's crew in a dock and not arresting my rogue trader with his agents. It would be quite nice to have an inquisitorial ally, all things considered. Let's just be glad he got here before we started work on the Heretek Turducken.

And the Imperial Protectorate of the Foundling Worlds is technically legal... by the law of the Imperium during the Great Crusade. Enough to obfuscate a non-inquisitorial investigation, anyways.