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MetroidJunkie said:
You could also take that both ways because they'd make more money if taxes weren't so unfair and full of loopholes. If you're stuck in a fast food restaurant job, you shouldn't get angry at the fast food restaurant for taking you in, many people can't even get a fast food job because of incredibly poor job opportunities. You should be angry that you can't get a better job. Many fast food businesses also make profit on a per building basis, meaning many of them wouldn't be able to swallow a higher pay wage without raising the costs of their food, which would upset their customers and hurt their business.

So they're angry at themselves that they can't get a better job. Now what? Ask themselves for a raise? Try getting a degree despite not even having a livable wage? Better to ask someone who can actually do something about their problem.

Of course, if McDonalds actually grants their request, they'll probably start firing workers and running a skeleton crew, assuming that they aren't already just barely hiring enough to run their restaurants.

Many fast food businesses also make profit on a per building basis, meaning many of them wouldn't be able to swallow a higher pay wage without raising the costs of their food, which would upset their customers and hurt their business.

Everything has a price. Keep everything the same as it is, and employees pay the price. Increase employee wages, and customers and the business pays the price. Take the third option and cut the salaries of upper management, and they'll be the ones who pay the price. Someone always has to make a sacrifice (and it's usually the employees and the customers).

I don't expect this strike, or even granting their request, to solve anything. Assuming their request is granted, and they can't just mass fire their employees, they'll probably just start cutting corners into making their Big Macs. Maybe they'll just start leaving out the :pickle: .

You could try to get a better job in the business you're already in. Get there sooner than anyone else, leave later than anyone else, and work harder than everyone else. Businesses will respond favorably to dedicated workers and you will be rewarded for your dedication because then you'd become a valuable asset.

If businesses did that, I suspect McDonalds wouldn't have their employees going on strike.

Why shouldn't it be? Nobody had a problem with the low pay wage when jobs were actually easy to come by and the government wasn't straining businesses with taxes and regulations. It's an entry level job, you can't expect premium pay unless you're willing to work harder.

I shouldn't have said "paid that little to begin with". They're actually getting paid less, relatively. As the cost of living goes up, inflation happens, but their minimum wage isn't increasing fast enough to keep up. And I doubt this recession is doing them any favors.
 
raymond said:
If businesses did that, I suspect McDonalds wouldn't have their employees going on strike.

I wonder how many of the people on strike are the most dedicated workers around. Sometimes, those who complain the loudest are doing the least, just look at Chris.

raymond said:
I shouldn't have said "paid that little to begin with". They're actually getting paid less, relatively. As the cost of living goes up, inflation happens, but their minimum wage isn't increasing fast enough to keep up. And I doubt this recession is doing them any favors.

So why isn't the inflation bothering you? Shouldn't the fact that inflation exists concern you that the government is spending too much and printing too much? Some people say inflation is an invisible tax since it deteriorates the value of your savings.



I apologize for the off topic posts, I'll try to steer things back. Chris could always take a job as the before image of healthcare products, he'd probably boost their profits by a good 400% if customers think even he could look like Brad Pitt.
 
MetroidJunkie said:
I wonder how many of the people on strike are the most dedicated workers around. Sometimes, those who complain the loudest are doing the least, just look at Chris.

You realize that by definition, there can only be one "most dedicated worker".

So why isn't the inflation bothering you? Shouldn't the fact that inflation exists concern you that the government is spending too much and printing too much? Some people say inflation is an invisible tax since it deteriorates the value of your savings.

Government printing isn't the only reason inflation happens, and inflation isn't the only reason for the rising cost of living. There's plenty of reasons the price of something can increase without inflation, and many of them aren't controllable.

What does this have to do with McDonalds? Do you want these employees to protest the government and ask them to force prices to be lower or something?
 
raymond said:
You realize that by definition, there can only be one "most dedicated worker".

You can have more than one in a top category, there are commonly top 10, top 50, etc. categories and people who protest usually aren't the ones impressing their managers and able to negotiate wages. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

raymond said:
What does this have to do with McDonalds? Do you want these employees to protest the government and ask them to force prices to be lower or something?

Couldn't hurt to have your priorities in the right spot. Government is harming those workers a lot more than McDonald's management is, like the mandatory health insurance program that's about to be implemented and premiums are already getting especially high for the young since they'll have to subsidize the sicker old. The Free Market creates competition, thus benefiting employees because employers will have to naturally increase their wages so that their employees don't leave to goto another business paying them higher wages.
 
raymond, you do realize, that if they increase the worker's wages by the amount that they are protesting for right now, a lot of the current workers will be out of a job, right?

McDonalds pays them as much as they do right now, because the workers don't actually provide that much value to them. This a job that any moron can do. These workers don't have any real useful skills, otherwise they wouldn't be working at McDonalds, at least not for this long. The moment you increase the wages, management would be extra careful with who they hire. They won't just hire any random jackass who can flip a burger without drooling on it. So all of the people who can rely on McDonalds to feed themselves without an education or any real skills? Jobless.

You can't just force wealth like that, it simply doesn't work. Well, it kind of does, for those who benefit directly, but the net benefit on society is negative. I am sure that there will be plenty of McDs employees who will benefit a lot form this, but I can guarantee that a lot more people will lose their jobs, or be denied the opportunity to get hired, because they simply aren't valuable enough for the money they are being paid.
 
Gumbarrel, good post! I read "do you realize" in Bob's voice :D

I worked at a fast food restaurant for several months to pay the bills. I thought it was bad, but even the managers are constantly watching the bottom line to make sure they sell enough to justify the restaurant's existence. Most of the money goes into employees anyways (managers can make from $12-$15 at most major chains) and the owners have taken every shortcut to make the food as cheap as possible.

Fast food was made to serve as a quick fix for pensioners who wanted to get some extra cash (and work 3-4 hours a day) and teenagers who wanted to get their feet wet in the working world (again, work 3 hours in the evening). The problem is that we have a broken system that spawns career fast food workers.
 
MetroidJunkie said:
You can have more than one in a top category, there are commonly top 10, top 50, etc. categories and people who protest usually aren't the ones impressing their managers and able to negotiate wages. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Right, so we give "most dedicated" prestige to the top 50. That just means the number of employees who aren't "most dedicated" will always be the total number of employees - 50.

Notice that we'd have a similar issue if everyone went and got a degree.

Couldn't hurt to have your priorities in the right spot. Government is harming those workers a lot more than McDonald's management is, like the mandatory health insurance program that's about to be implemented and premiums are already getting especially high for the young since they'll have to subsidize the sicker old.

Suppose the government stopped unfairly taxing employers and making them pay health insurance. What incentive does McDonald's management have to give raises? There isn't a shortage of fast food workers. The other businesses have no incentive to increase wages, and even if they did, there aren't going to be enough job slots for everyone, leaving the rest to work for McDonalds. You haven't changed the fact that increasing an employee's salary will cut into management's profits.

Mostly, it'll just increase management's profits. Will probably also result in slashing prices a bit, which can benefit employees indirectly. Oh and probably screw over any employees who needed health insurance.

The Free Market creates competition, thus benefiting employees because employers will have to naturally increase their wages so that their employees don't leave to goto another business paying them higher wages.

Theory, is different from reality. It's in a business's best interest to eliminate competition. In a free market, with no government intervention, businesses will attempt to annihilate their competitors and become a monopoly. Failing that, they'll cooperate with other businesses instead, and probably start price fixing or something. This is if the government didn't intervene, of course.

raymond, you do realize, that if they increase the worker's wages by the amount that they are protesting for right now, a lot of the current workers will be out of a job, right?

You read my post, didn't you?
"Of course, if McDonalds actually grants their request, they'll probably start firing workers..."

I'm of the opinion that the workers are screwed no matter.

McDonalds pays them as much as they do right now, because the workers don't actually provide that much value to them.

Untrue. The workers provide a huge amount of value to them, they're just not valuable individually. They're underpaid because they're easily replaced. It's a similar reason for why a gallon of water costs less than a gallon of gas, despite the former being vital for survival.
 
Hey, raymond and MetroidJunkie.....
There's a reason why economics is called The Dismal Science.


Stop bumming everybody out, man. (:_(

Anyhow...
Back on target:
Q:How could the blithering huffalump make some dough?
A: Swallow his pride (among other things) and get good a blowing horny sailors.
 
LordCustos3 said:
Anyhow...
Back on target:
Q:How could the blithering huffalump make some dough?
A: Swallow his pride (among other things) and get good a blowing horny sailors.

Implying that people would pay to have sex with Chris?
 
raymond said:
LordCustos3 said:
Anyhow...
Back on target:
Q:How could the blithering huffalump make some dough?
A: Swallow his pride (among other things) and get good a blowing horny sailors.

Implying that people would pay to have sex with Chris?

Masochistic chubby-chasing diaperfurs exist.
Chris is their God.
 
raymond said:
LordCustos3 said:
Anyhow...
Back on target:
Q:How could the blithering huffalump make some dough?
A: Swallow his pride (among other things) and get good a blowing horny sailors.

Implying that people would pay to have sex with Chris?

Experienced for her pleasure.
 
Honestly, if OPL were to find a legitimate site, he could do online surveys. There are a handful out there that pay out pretty decently.

My mom's routine when she comes home from work is to spend about an hour doing online surveys. She gets $3 per survey she takes - the checks come in the mail and after her first 6 months or so, she was able to buy herself a new tablet.

Other sites usually make you accumulate a certain amount before they send a check/PayPal, though.

Someone else I think mentioned product testing. Years ago, I signed up with a focus group/product testing agency and every so often, I still get phone calls to come sit in a room for a few minutes, get a product, try it out for a couple weeks and go back for an hour and talk about my experience. Sometimes you can even keep the product you tested, on top of the $100+ (at least, it's $100+ cash at the particular company I participate with,) they pay you. If you get chosen, but wind up not being eligible for the actual testing, they still pay you for your time and send you on your way. And it's not drug testing - I got to test out an induction charging pad for my smart phone, perfume (which gave 2/3 of my group a rash, so we got paid extra for it,) smokeless cigarettes, an energy drink, juice and some other fun things.

By no means would this be a replacement for the :tugboat:, but it'd be a few extra bucks to make Chris look less like a lazy mooch. If he does surveys, he doesn't have to change his routine - he can sit at McDonalds, leeching WiFi, sitting on his iPhone. If he does product testing/focus group stuff, he can get a few bucks and probably bring home more shit for the hoard.
 
Honestly, I don't know if a monetized account would work. I can easily see trolls mirroring any videos Chris uploaded (either on Youtube or other sites) and encouraging people to watch them so as not to put money into OPL's pockets. AdBlock Plus would also ensure that Chris would get less money than he'd like. On the plus-side, if Chris made a video like this, only more enraged, it'd be fucking hilarious:

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Chris could find a sleazy lawyer and try some litigation. Keyword TRY. Say a manager yelling at him caused Chris to suffer emotional distress and play the autism card. Right Judge, right approach Chris could make a pretty penny. That is, if he could keep his mouth shut in court.

Again, TRY.
 
Kamen Rider Black said:
Chris could find a sleazy lawyer and try some litigation. Keyword TRY. Say a manager yelling at him caused Chris to suffer emotional distress and play the autism card. Right Judge, right approach Chris could make a pretty penny. That is, if he could keep his mouth shut in court.

Again, TRY.

I think lawyers can do Google searches. In which case the CWCki would show the world how bad Chris really is 8-)
 
Kamen Rider Black said:
Chris could find a sleazy lawyer and try some litigation. Keyword TRY. Say a manager yelling at him caused Chris to suffer emotional distress and play the autism card. Right Judge, right approach Chris could make a pretty penny. That is, if he could keep his mouth shut in court.

Again, TRY.

Sadly, I don't think paying for a lawyer is as cheap paying for a hooker.
 
SodomyRocket said:
Kamen Rider Black said:
Chris could find a sleazy lawyer and try some litigation. Keyword TRY. Say a manager yelling at him caused Chris to suffer emotional distress and play the autism card. Right Judge, right approach Chris could make a pretty penny. That is, if he could keep his mouth shut in court.

Again, TRY.

I think lawyers can do Google searches. In which case the CWCki would show the world how bad Chris really is 8-)

Here's the thing, evidence of bad character, depending on jurisdiction, can only be entered after the opposition tries to use evidence of good character. It doesn't matter what CWC has done in the past, it cannot be brought up unless they try to paint Chris is a positive light by saying he has done so and so.

In Virginia, character evidence cannot be used to prove someone acted in a specific way. Rule 2:404 of the Virginia Rules of Evidence mentions that isolated incidents of bad conduct are not admissible in criminal or civil cases. Therefore, if stuff like the Game Place incident are not related to the case at hand, they may not be admitted into evidence. The only exceptions are criminal cases where the defendant paints themself in a good light and self-defense. All that matters is the case at hand.
 
We could harvest any organs he hasn't ruined for black market purposes.
(Definitely making some money, maybe not for him, but for someone.)
 
Kamen Rider Black said:
Chris could find a sleazy lawyer and try some litigation. Keyword TRY. Say a manager yelling at him caused Chris to suffer emotional distress and play the autism card. Right Judge, right approach Chris could make a pretty penny. That is, if he could keep his mouth shut in court.

Again, TRY.

Well, if he opens his mouth, the lawyer could use that to bring up a strong case of Chris' crippling autism and how he can't control his actions, might actually get him sympathy. Or contempt, not sure.
 
CatParty said:
We could harvest any organs he hasn't ruined for black market purposes.
(Definitely making some money, maybe not for him, but for someone.)

looks like I'm finally gona get to use these. AUGH YEAH
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