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Weight loss support thread
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That's the reference or do you want me to get Mr. popo for your weight training?
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Are you doing keto or just low carb? I don't know where you are, but if you have access to an Aldi they sell this Light and Fit bread that's higher in gluten which makes it lower in calories. It's 45 calories a slice, and 12 carbs a slice. I think, I'm too lazy to get up and look. Sara Lee also makes a low calorie bread, but Aldi is like half the price.
ETA: I got up and looked at the nutritional information because it was bugging me and I needed water.
Serving is two slices, 90 calories, 19 carbs. So 45 calories a slice, and ~10 carbs a slice. I don't know what regular bread is but I know regular white bread is about 90 calories a slice. Hope this is useful for you.
I'm limiting my carbs to somewhere under 75 a day, which I know isn't super low carb, but it's lower than the average. (I'm diabetic) I can fit two sandwiches a day in that and still have plenty of room. I had to cut out rice, potatoes, pasta, and corn though, because I tend to eat large quantities of those foods and I'm trying to get my blood sugar under control. Maybe allow yourself one meal a month of them.
As for my own weight I've been more successful at my intermittent fasting, managing to not eat outside of my window most days last month. My typical lunch is a bag of frozen vegetables and three scrambled eggs cooked in a tablespoon or two of oil, plus whatever seasonings look good. Huge portions fill me up and the protein and fat keep me full.
I've lost about ten pounds this month, going from 220 to 210 this morning. That's a little faster than I'd like and I'm not sure why I started to lose, I've been eating like this since January most days. Maybe I'm just being more successful at sticking to essentially two meals a day and few enough calories to burn weight.
I'm down to a snug women's size 16 pants. My 18s are too big. The last time I wore a size 16 was when I was about twelve. I wasn't really fat at that age, not like I am now, but that's the size I wore. Wierd. Feels good though.
In 3 pounds I will have lost 100 pounds exactly. A Kiwi Farms success story. (I started losing in 2014 after I read the Slaton's thread)
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Been eating 1500-1800 calories with a solid 400-600 calorie cardio workout 5 days a week all winter. Didn't lose a pound.
For the past three weeks I've been keeping strict records of everything I eat and been using my heartrate monitor to track everything on top of it.
Going to a new doctor Thursday for bloodwork. I'm getting the distinct feeling my old shitty doctor was incorrect to take me off my thyroid medication back in August.
For the past three weeks I've been keeping strict records of everything I eat and been using my heartrate monitor to track everything on top of it.
Going to a new doctor Thursday for bloodwork. I'm getting the distinct feeling my old shitty doctor was incorrect to take me off my thyroid medication back in August.
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You could also just not be burning a lot of calories while resting
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So what should I do? Cut myself down to 1000 calories? Cause everytime I do that my doctors throw a shit fit but never seem to have any better suggestions.
I've lost weight before so it isn't like doing this hasn't worked before.
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Have you tried weight/strength training? Have you upped the intensity of your workouts?
Human body is incredibly suited to adaption and without upping effort, your body will adapt very quickly and you won't be burning calories at the same rate for the same workouts, you'll need to up that effort.
I haven't seen the whole thread, so I apologize if you mention you can't do strength training, but I highly suggest it. More muscle means higher calorie needs, not to mention actual training is more intensive than just cardio training.
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I stopped lifting when I was diagnosed with Chronic Kidney Disease. My doctors have been wishy washy on if I should lift weights or not, most of them seem to think it will put stress on my transplanted kidney but a few have suggested I get back into it.
I'll start again and see how much it effects my blood work next month I guess and weigh if I should continue based on that and if it kickstarts my weight loss.
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Building muscle is a good way to help you burn calories when you aren't actually working out
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What kind of cardio have you been doing?
Walking/Running is pretty much the "lowest effort" kind of cardio you could do. Humans are the most efficient land movers on the planet and walking/running is our specialty.
You could try sprints or if that might be too strenuous, weighted walks/runs. If you have a gym, row machine, or stair machine they are cardio, but not exactly the easy cardio we are used to.
For your doctor's, I suggest asking what you can do to up the intensity if they don't want you strength training.
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Stationary bike. 30-45 minutes 5 days a week with an average of 140 BPM. Every workout I do shows that I lose anywhere from 400 to 600 calories, I can't believe my heart monitor could be that off.
It's honestly the most intense cardio I've ever done which is why I'm dumbfounded I haven't lost a pound. I've managed to drop 60 pounds with simple walking before. I get that I'm older but damn it's really fucking weird to do this for months and still hang around 275 lbs.
It's just really frustrating that I managed to lose 60 pounds while doing dialysis and now when I'm going balls to the wall I can't drop the weight I gained from my transplant recovery.
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The concept I'm referring to is called 'energy efficiency and calorie adaption.
A simple explanation is the body will find ways to cut on other processes to recover a portion of calories that we burn from exercise.
If I recall it was first noticed when there was study done on African hunter-gatherer tribes to see what their daily calorie output was. On "normal" days they may had been running/walking for 10 miles, but they were still only burning the same amount of average calories as your typical sedentary westerner. The concept is still fairly new (10 years or so) so it's not fully understood. We don't know if critical processes are being cut back, or maybe you just naturally fidget less, etc...
What the body does is finds ways to save calories during off-hours, couple that with becoming more efficient at specific exercises and it becomes clear why people misjudge what their calorie output is. The most recent study I looked at says that you may be looking as much as 25% of your calorie out will be compensated for.
So say you burn 2000 by being alive and you burn 400 doing xyz exercise. Your body will adjust that 2000 number to 1900, thus cutting 25% of your exercise calorie output. This goes along with you just naturally becoming more efficient at that exercise and you might only be losing 300 calories to exercise and your body is still going to take its slice out of everyday operations. It's thought to be a survival mechanism of sorts.
There are obvious ways around it to an extent, muscle building being one of them, because extra muscle increases your calorie need per day. Not to mention the process of building muscle is calorie intensive. Splitting up exercise routines or ingeneral not being so routine (do different exercises).
As you can see, because your calorie output is harder to track, it sometimes makes it hard to really accurately access calorie input.
All that being said, don't lose heart even if you've plateud. Maybe a change to diet or just a quick break from the whole ordeal of trying desperately to lose weight will be what you need. Trying new exercises and throwing in some kind extra activity will definitely help. But you know, exercise and diet routines are hard fucking work, especially for some people due to challenges like say Chronic Kidney Disease. Sometimes we just need a vacation from work and sometimes we need to change the company we work for, change our job, change our responsibilities. Diet and exercise are no different.
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The thing is it isn't really a plateau. I haven't lost *anything* since I've gained it back. That's what has me worried about taking a break or anything as I don't want to gain weight at this point.
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I totally get that, but gaining 5 to lose 15 isn't going to kill you. Sometimes the body needs a reset, it sounds like you've turned your workouts into too much of a routine and your body has compensated. I'm not saying go crazy, but a week or 2 of reduced activity with a similar calorie intake, you might find yourself not gaining any weight.
Like I said though, it sounds like you are working really hard and because of that not making "progress" is going to be really demotivating. It's important to take stock, is your exercise becoming easier? That's progress, are you actively checking your size? You might be losing size, just not weight.
There is no shame in stepping back for a little. I've gotten past multiple plateus like that, I've gotten past weightloss plateus by just gorging one day.
I still think you really need to find a strength routine, consult your doctors, if they aren't helping maybe try consulting maybe an oncologist as they would have had clients with kidney cancer and reduced functionality.... I mean I can imagine the doctor who oversaw your transplant would be able to steer you the right way.
I'm hesitant to tell you to just go and do something, most of my clients tend to lean on the lazy side, so I usually tell them to stop being bitches and make meaningful changes and actually work out.
You sound like you are and you also have a condition that is potentially limiting.
But I can't imagine a kidney transplant means you can never move boxes or do other strenuous things ever again, so forcefully find out wtf from your doctors.
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Anyone ever try P5P, an activated/converted form of B6?
I'm on day 2 100mg/day and it's fucking phenomenal, all kinds of energy and incredible good mood.
My understanding B6 deficiency from diet is rare but people calorie restricting (1, me) alcoholics or former alcoholics (2, me, former) and autismos (3, lol maybe) may have trouble converting dietary or multi-vit b6 into p5p hence an already converted form in a pill. The p5p converted form (whether you made it yourself or bought it) is needed for producing serotonin, gaba, dopamine and lots of other good shit. Also it's supposed to lower prolactin levels if you're a pro-fapper.
I was getting 15mg/day regular b6/pyridoxine from my multi + zma, which should have been way more than enough and I shouldn't have felt anything from the p5p pills but I am in a big way.
I'm on day 2 100mg/day and it's fucking phenomenal, all kinds of energy and incredible good mood.
My understanding B6 deficiency from diet is rare but people calorie restricting (1, me) alcoholics or former alcoholics (2, me, former) and autismos (3, lol maybe) may have trouble converting dietary or multi-vit b6 into p5p hence an already converted form in a pill. The p5p converted form (whether you made it yourself or bought it) is needed for producing serotonin, gaba, dopamine and lots of other good shit. Also it's supposed to lower prolactin levels if you're a pro-fapper.
I was getting 15mg/day regular b6/pyridoxine from my multi + zma, which should have been way more than enough and I shouldn't have felt anything from the p5p pills but I am in a big way.
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This is absolutely horrible advice to someone who has gained 60 pounds within a year and has failed to lose any weight while maintaining what seems like an intense cardio and diet program for at least 3 months. Especially someone who is weighing 275ls and I'm going to assume is at least prediabetic if not already diabetic due to CKD. If gaining 60 pounds wasn't enough to "reset" their body, gaining 5 more isn't going to do anything but further hinder them.
@ProblematicUser420 If you previously were on thyroid medication it absolutely sounds like you have some form of hormonal issue at play here. I would suggest getting an appointment with a doctor immediately and getting bloodwork done.
What exactly does your diet consist of right now? And how are you tracking your workouts?
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You either didn't read or didn't comprehend what I said. Don't create strawman arguments.
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You're telling someone who has already gained a large amount of weight that their body has somehow adapted to their energy expenditure without even losing a single pound, and the answer is to gain more weight to somehow "reset" their body even though gaining 60 pounds already did not seem to do this.
Please tell me what I am not comprehending here. Your advice would be okay for someone who might have lost 10-15 pounds and plateaued or wasn't already extremely overweight with a condition that makes them more susceptible to diabetes.
@ProblematicUser420 Once again, you need to see a doctor about your thyroid condition and get bloodwork for any other hormonal issues before you try to gain weight to break a plateau.