Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

[Trilby]

I'm seeing a lot of post about Velma, not just here but across the forum at large. I'm just wondering, who the fuck is this for and how did it get greenlit? I'm not saying you can't have an edgy adult oriented kid's show spinoff but it's not funny. I'm assuming that best and funniest parts are in the trailer but I didn't get a single chuckle. So kids can't watch it because it's for adult and adults won't watch it because it's not entertaining. So back to my original question, who the fuck is the target demographic for this shit?

Stoned zoomers, I'm sure of that.

Makes you wonder what they'll dig out about Bill Hanna's life, or any other Golden Age animator for that matter. I'm sure Tex Avery is next.

 

[Yamma Damma]

How about something actually good for once? Parker Simmons, the creator of Mao Mao, made these Zelda animations based on official artwork for A Link to the Past:
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Nintendo? Unironically, HIRE THIS MAN.

I agree. If Mao Mao is kill, he might as well do it.

could they do any worse than "well excusseeee me princess!" i guess the release of the mario movie will be our only way to tell.

YES. THEY CAN, THEY HAVE and if they don't continue to stay close to their IPs when adapting to cinema and television, THEY WILL AGAIN. If they leave everything to the americans with minds filled with commiefornication and barely disguised fetishes it will bring them down again.

O God! The Tumbler nose! I though they dropped that shit years ago!

Like I said yesterday: the same industry cogs who worked on those popular shows that grind your gears carry that torch to other projects. It won't die with the shows that started it, it will die when the new style comes along (hopefully it's not a complete eyesore).

You should see the webcomic it’s based on. One guy knowingly infects his boyfriend with STDs while also wanting to sleep with another guy.

Also this.
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This bullshit got the greenlight for two seasons while Harpy Gee got buttkiss. Life's a beach.

Not for me. I was never into stuff like Sonic, Mario or Zelda as a kid.

Fair enough. Strange to hear unless you live in sandland or something though.

Noted YouTube Pooper and industry insider Nick "WalrusGuy" Walstrom is fed up with the industry and is dropping allegations:

https://twitter.com/NAveryW/status/1613678486421479424

https://archive.md/FHnCK

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>youtube pooper
boy I hope you shared this for lulz and not a serious thing to consider. Most of these are either "no shit sherlock" level or "yes, and?" level. Sounds like an EZPZ ripoff anyway.

I'm seeing a lot of post about Velma, not just here but across the forum at large. I'm just wondering, who the fuck is this for and how did it get greenlit? I'm not saying you can't have an edgy adult oriented kid's show spinoff but it's not funny. I'm assuming that best and funniest parts are in the trailer but I didn't get a single chuckle. So kids can't watch it because it's for adult and adults won't watch it because it's not entertaining. So back to my original question, who the fuck is the target demographic for this shit?

@SteelPlatedHeart shared Hotdiggetydemon's take. He put out one point to consider (none of these fuckers know how cartoons are successful) but he stopped before hitting it on the head. It's made for the outrage farmers so they can blather and spin wheels. Slowly becoming like the wokejokes on dumblr who bitched ad nauseum about races and gays in media then bitch some more when it's not exactly how they want it (hate to say it but that's what it looks like).

 

[Commander X]

A batty conspiracy theory is circulating that "Mindy Kahling is actually a transphobic reactionary and made Velma suck on purpose to reinforce far right Youtuber narratives".

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

A batty conspiracy theory is circulating that "Mindy Kahling is actually a transphobic reactionary and made Velma suck on purpose to reinforce far right Youtuber narratives".

When not even the wokies will back you up, despite making the product specifically for them, you have failed more than is humanly possible to fail.

 

[Cloacan]

Oh oh.
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Now we're talking.

Now we're talking.

Everett peck for duckman. You could NOT make that show today. It's almost like the antithesis to the woke thesis.

Mmph.

Not for me. I was never into stuff like Sonic, Mario or Zelda as a kid.

Come home, pickleman.

 

[AnOminous]

So back to my original question, who the fuck is the target demographic for this shit?

SJWs, who also won't watch it but will insist anyone who says it's a bad idea is a NOTSEE.

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

Come home, pickleman.

Lame.

 

[Arianne Chan]

I'm still surprised that Hilda hasn't been cancelled by Netflix

And i hope that doesn't happens

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

I'm still surprised that Hilda hasn't been cancelled by Netflix

And i hope that doesn't happens

Yeah, I've heard Hilda is surprisingly good. Haven't had the time to actually sit down and watch it, but I HAVE plundered it from the high seas (because fuck paying Netflix for like, one or two things worth watching here and there). I've also heard Maya and the Three is pretty good, you seen it?

 

[Colon capital V]

Okay I gotta ask, did John Lassater ACTUALLY touch one too many women over at Pixar? Or was he just a victim of the #MeToo movement?

People always talk about how there are freaks in the industry yet when John gets outted, users here flock to defend him saying he didn't actually do it. So did he do it or nah?

 

[Arianne Chan]

Yeah, I've heard Hilda is surprisingly good. Haven't had the time to actually sit down and watch it, but I HAVE plundered it from the high seas (because fuck paying Netflix for like, one or two things worth watching here and there). I've also heard Maya and the Three is pretty good, you seen it?

Hilda is a very good series, i highly recommend it to you


About Maya and the Three, i haven't seen it yet, but I heard it's good too

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

I've also heard Maya and the Three is pretty good, you seen it?

It’s good but nothing really special.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I mentioned in the comics thread about being more into characters like the shadow, the spirit, and dick tracy as of late along with taking a liking to gold-silver age animation. Low and behold the entirety of the Dick Tracy show is on youtube. The title character may only barley be in it often only seen in the opening and closing of every episode but it still has that 60's upa charm. (pink panther, inspector and the anteater )

I'm just surprised it's still uploaded on YouTube, not due to copyright but because of...well joe jutsu and the barrage of "problematic" characters.

 

[Jeff_the_Thriller]

Posted the wrong link. Punishment for my sins of phone posting. Anyway this is how you do an adult oriented Scooby-Doo reboot. Velma is gay too so it ticks that box.

 

[Trilby]

I mentioned in the comics thread about being more into characters like the shadow, the spirit, and dick tracy as of late along with taking a liking to gold-silver age animation. Low and behold the entirety of the Dick Tracy show is on youtube. The title character may only barley be in it often only seen in the opening and closing of every episode but it still has that 60's upa charm. (pink panther, inspector and the anteater )

I'm just surprised it's still uploaded on YouTube, not due to copyright but because of...well joe jutsu and the barrage of "problematic" characters.

If you like a more serious take on Dick Tracy via UPA, there's this (even if Mr. Magoo is involved)...

 

[Back me up!]

Posted the wrong link. Punishment for my sins of phone posting. Anyway this is how you do an adult oriented Scooby-Doo reboot. Velma is gay too so it ticks that box.

What I love about the Venture Bro's real brilliance of this parody is that the gang are also parodies of killers from the 60/70s, like Son of Sam, Ted Bundy, etc instead of just "Adult" Scooby-Doo.

 

[skykiii]

I disagree with that a ton. Its pretty good, but sometimes it can be downright boring. The entire series ranges from gothic and awesome to unbelievably lame and forgettable. It has a few really good episodes but they're buried under a bunch of forgettable ones that remind you that no matter how good you may think the show is, it just existed to sell toys.

I guess I just can't get into old from the 70's, 80's and 90's, ect. I much prefer more modern cartoons, as rare as good ones are.

I sorta agree but from a different angle. Batman TAS struck me as a bit of a fan project that got funded. That said, its definitely gotten overhyped. You hear a lot about how there is deep psychology and stuff but in reality its pathetically shallow.

And the whole DCAU has an annoying tendency to introduce points then ignore them. In Superman, its made explicit that Metallo wants revenge on Lex and really has no beef with Supes... then in his second appearance Metallo doesn't even mention Lex and is trying to kill Supes for no reason.

The DCAU also has this problem of... I call it "animated acting".... somehow looking both staged and overdone. Like it literally makes the stories feel more shallow because there's too many reaction shots that don't need to be there. I'd probably have to make a video on this for it to make sense.

It has some decent parts but the whole is just not as good as the internet astroturfed it to be.

I will always love 1980s cartoons personally.

 

[Ensok]

Okay I just saw the trailer for the Velma show, I have absolutely no intention of watching it of course but one line in it really annoyed me.

"You can't speculate about someone's sexuality unless they're famous or Peppermint Patty."

No, you sons of bitches, you can't speculate about Peppermint Patty's sexuality either. Why? Because she's fucking straight! Because she has a crush on Charlier Brown. Because none of this is even remotely fucking speculative at all. She's always been straight. People just make jokes about it because of Marcie calling her sir and Peppermint being tomboyish. But never, ever, in Charlie Brown, has Peppermint Patty remotely been gay. She's fucking straight, there is no discussion.

 

[A Grey Cat]

If you like a more serious take on Dick Tracy via UPA, there's this (even if Mr. Magoo is involved)...

It's shame brad bird never got to make that spirit movie he wanted to do. It was one of those movies he had ideas for and worked on for years (like the incredibles) it's actualy why at one point in Iron Giant you can see the spirit comics in Hogarth's comics he's reading to the Giant, but it ultimately never happened. All we got instead was...well Frank Miller's The spirit. Well that and this one pencil test:

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Okay I gotta ask, did John Lassater ACTUALLY touch one too many women over at Pixar? Or was he just a victim of the #MeToo movement?

People always talk about how there are freaks in the industry yet when John gets outted, users here flock to defend him saying he didn't actually do it. So did he do it or nah?

A woman at Skydance Animation invited him to work there shortly after he left Pixar. Therefore, I'm willing to believe it was complete bullshit and it was crazy childless women weaponizing hugs as bad touches because he was standing in their way to take over the company.