Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

[Quijibo69]

Being disingenuous on purpose hasn't changed 5 years later. In fact it has only gotten worse with people who are made to tell you something in the completely wrong way. Since Animaniacs had a Prince joke would that make it also a commentary on the music industry? But to these same peolpe a few political jokes puts it on the same social satire as cartoons like Family Guy or South Park. This is a byproduct of the "all art is political" people.

Funny you said Family Guy because a lot of people that did the reboot of Animaniacs worked on FG. The reboot was a big fat meh over all.

 

[biglurker]

Are you all ready for the savior of Western Animation to drop on the 24th?
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That's right. Our boy RebelTaxi is getting ready to drop 95% of his pilot for his new series LOKI IRL at Momocon. He already showed off some of it in a stream a few days ago in a now unlisted stream, but will be releasing the majority of the pilot at the event.

For those who don't know, LOKI IRL was YouTuber RebelTaxi's decade+ long project that he tried to get green lit at Adult Swim, leading to the humiliation ritual below - watch at your own risk:

The plot of the series is that a female cartoonist lives in a world where cartoon characters can come to life and do battle similar to a Digimon or Yu-Gi-Oh!. The cartoon characters are known as IRLs (In Real Lifes) and work as stands for their creators. At one point, the main character Bianca stumbles upon a long supressed IRL known as LOKI, a villain who feeds on people knowing/acknowledging him. The two will work together to enter the tournament and defeat other IRLs.

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Pan can not finish a damn thing for LokiIRL to save his life. Even the pilot for this property is not going to be finished when it goes public. He has been at this for 15ish years? Constant redesigns, rewriting characters, and even aborting the web comic for it after around 20 pages. How the hell did the webcomic have better art then what he showed off for the pilot? The man turned into the biggest industry kiss ass all for this.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

If him spilling his spaghetti in front of Genndy Tartakovsky wasn't a sign it was a coomer fantasy, I don't know what it'll take to get people to realize Pan's dick has been the one spearheading the project.

That was massively embarrassing. Dose he have a web comic of this? I remember hearing something about that, or am I misremembering?

 

[Cave Fisher]

That was massively embarrassing. Dose he have a web comic of this? I remember hearing something about that, or am I misremembering?

Yeah, on Webtoons. It didn't get too far, though. Maybe if he focused on that instead, he wouldn't have spent like a decade just to end up with a still unfinished pilot to his name.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Yeah, on Webtoons. It didn't get too far, though. Maybe if he focused on that instead, he wouldn't have spent like a decade just to end up with a still unfinished pilot to his name.

Is it cringe or just boring?

 

[Cave Fisher]

Is it cringe or just boring?

Ehh, column A Column B

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

OK, any new creatives who happen to be lurking on here, a word of advice:

STOP. INSERTING. YOURSELVES. INTO. YOUR. WORK. IT'S GETTING OLD.

 

[Chromeo]

The plot of the series is that a female cartoonist lives in a world where cartoon characters can come to life and do battle similar to a Digimon or Yu-Gi-Oh!.

I don't think I said this already, but does this concept remind anyone else of Zatch Bell? People get these books that are tied to magical children that they can then use spells from the book to make them fight?

Fuck it dude, the premise is nothing special but when the hell was the last time we got an actual digimon/yughioh-esque cartoon? Years?

I haven't watched early morning Cartoon Network in ages, what was the last "hey kids buy our card game" TV show? Yokai Watch?

That brings other unfortunate questions such as why aren't humans the default rulers of the animal kingdom as RL, what does everyone eat, what's humans' shtick in a world of talking animals, what about interspecies relationships, etc.

That's the weird thing with anthro stories, is how do the predators get meat if prey animals are also people? Zootopia said predators "used" to eat prey (but doesn't say what they do now,) Beastars has some kind of underground meat market thing and meat substitutes, Bojack has animal people who are genetically modified to be like normal animals, and in the webcomic Kevin and Kell the titular Kell works as a hunter for a meat company, hunting prey who choose to live in the wild.

You know, maybe I'm silly, but I'd love a show or a series that makes that issue its whole concept. Maybe that's what Beastars is, idk, but a show about anthro animals trying to function in society despite the nature of predator/prey, that'd be interesting.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

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OK, any new creatives who happen to be lurking on here, a word of advice:

STOP. INSERTING. YOURSELVES. INTO. YOUR. WORK. IT'S GETTING OLD.

He sees himself as a nerdy fat girl?

 

[Lone Star]

I know I'm late, but when I saw the tweet showing the plot for Shrek 5, I just assumed it was a joke. Can't believe they're going with such a retarded plot.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

I know I'm late, but when I saw the tweet showing the plot for Shrek 5, I just assumed it was a joke. Can't believe they're going with such a retarded plot.

What tweet?

 

[Lone Star]

What tweet?

Bros, it is so fucked.....

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https://gamerant.com/shrek-5-reported-storyline-spells-disaster-dreamworks/#:~:text=Shrek%205%20Is%20Reportedly%20Making%20A%20Big%20Switch%20With%20Its%20Setting&text=However%2C%20according%20to%20industry%20insider,world%20that%20everyone%20lives%20in.

This one. I saw the original tweet elsewhere at a glance and just assumed it was a joke. If the leak turns out to be true, at least, it's such a shitty idea.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I don't think I said this already, but does this concept remind anyone else of Zatch Bell? People get these books that are tied to magical children that they can then use spells from the book to make them fight?

Wasn't there some hero show getting attention recently about kids summoning comic book characters from their comics to fight?

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

since if these anthro animals have animal senses, they have a massive advantage over humanity already

A lot of animal senses are actually worse than human ones, you furry.

 

[Quijibo69]

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OK, any new creatives who happen to be lurking on here, a word of advice:

STOP. INSERTING. YOURSELVES. INTO. YOUR. WORK. IT'S GETTING OLD.

What if you think someone else inserted you in their work? Just asking for a friend....

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Bros, it is so fucked.....
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https://gamerant.com/shrek-5-reported-storyline-spells-disaster-dreamworks/#:~:text=Shrek%205%20Is%20Reportedly%20Making%20A%20Big%20Switch%20With%20Its%20Setting&text=However%2C%20according%20to%20industry%20insider,world%20that%20everyone%20lives%20in.

This one. I saw the original tweet elsewhere at a glance and just assumed it was a joke. If the leak turns out to be true, at least, it's such a shitty idea.

This movie just keeps getting worse and worse the more we hear about it.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

I just noticed this.

>"Artists don't work so hard just so you can dump on their work!"

Nobody "dumps on" Hayao Miyazaki's work.
Nobody "dumps on" the classic Disney movies.
Nobody "dumps on" Dreamworks' best works (Kung Fu Panda, How to Train Your Dragon, The Prince of Egypt, The Wild Robot, etc.)
Nobody "dumps on" Brad Bird's movies.
Nobody "dumps on" classic Pixar (1995-2010).

Wanna know why? Because those works are timeless stories that still hold up well today. The reason why people dump on YOU and your ilk is because your work is SHIT. Interchangeable, regurgitated, idpol-infected SHIT.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Well now.
Another yt animator who's senile enough to make that type of crap in webcomics showing us his narcissism.
Is Craig Mckraken the only one humble?

 

[invisibult plus+]

Ehh, column A Column B
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You didn't work hard enough if that's how you write.

 

[Cave Fisher]

Which is a problem, since if these anthro animals have animal senses, they have a massive advantage over humanity already (reminds me of how RWBY accidentally made Faunus racism more and more justified the more you learneda bout how better the animal people are compared to humans), but this is not a topic that movie would cover anyway.

I refuse to fucking believe humans could have gotten anywhere close to where they are in real life if tigers ever figured out civilization.