What Happens If Chris Actually Does Improve?

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Barb isn't holding back chris. At least not actively. She enables him to do nothing. If she was gone he'd still do nothing. Chris isn't improving himself by going out. He's just being a loud obnoxious retard in public, somewhere that isn't frowned upon. He's not making new friends he's just sperging to anyone who will listen to him in ten minute increments about sonichu or how he's a lesbian soul. The people at impulse tolerate him, but he's far from popular. Dude is incapable of ever making one real friend. His best friends in life have been trolls.

Chris doesn't see the benefit in improving so he won't. What you have to realize is that why YOU consider an improvement is not what HE considers a improvement. In his mind being a gross failure of a tranny that scares mothers of small children everytime he waddles into a toy store is an improvement. To him watching MLP on netflix all day is an improvement. To him having brief conversations with attractive women who are too polite to tell him how repulsive he is, that's an improvement. Getting a job and some dignity/self-respect would not be an improvement cuz not being able to be a manbaby is too much stress.

The only "improvement" he could meaningfully make would to stop being autistic and stop failing at being tranny. Neither will happen ever. He's a useless person who will always be useless...
 
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Lipitor said:
Chris doesn't see the benefit in improving so he won't. What you have to realize is that why YOU consider an improvement is not what HE considers a improvement. In his mind being a gross failure of a tranny that scares mothers of small children everytime he waddles into a toy store is an improvement. To him watching MLP on netflix all day is an improvement. To him having brief conversations with attractive women who are too polite to tell him how repulsive he is, that's an improvement.
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That begs the question: is it really improvement if it doesn't make Chris happier? Like, if you applied the changes everyone regards as "improvement" to Chris' life, he wouldn't be any happier. In fact, he'd be positively miserable.

I can't see how putting Chris into a starkly different situation and forcing him to live a life that just makes him unhappy as an improvement.

This is why I'm annoyed at people getting preachy about how Chris should get a job. While it sounds like a good plan on the surface, in reality, it's a really dumb suggestion. A part time job would make Chris miserable for the slight benefit of little extra money. He wouldn't socialize or become more normal or anything like that. All that would happen is that he'd be angry and resentful the whole time.
 
Lipitor said:
Chris isn't improving himself by going out. He's just being a loud obnoxious exceptional individual in public, somewhere that isn't frowned upon. He's not making new friends he's just sperging to anyone who will listen to him in ten minute increments about sonichu or how he's a lesbian soul. The people at impulse tolerate him, but he's far from popular.
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I don't know any of these things. It seems possible to likely, but I certainly don't know it for a fact.
 
AnOminous said:
I don't know any of these things. It seems possible to likely, but I certainly don't know it for a fact.
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That's assuming Chris can even be seen anywhere outside the one place that tolerates him.
 
Honestly Dobson is the next-generation while Chris is... Chris. At this point seeing him improve would be a sign of heavy things behind the scene.
 
Subconcious Offense said:
I wish there was a way to hear them out. They seem to be the first group in a long time that he gets along with or at least tolerate on a personal level for any length of time since that old Game Place.
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Eh, I think it's largely a revolving door of random girls on a night out. They encounter a guy in a dress who seems a bit off in the head. They have a few drinks, dance with him, laugh, and then go back to their group.
 
I think about it like this. Chris is like a freakshow attraction that happens upon these people in an unconventional gathering. The girls there know that they are in for weird and out of the ordinary when they go there. Seeing Chris for about an hour or so and not knowing his back story, that could be entertaining, however they get the opportunity to keep him at arm's length.

Arm's length is the theme of any relationship Chris has, though. No one really has genuinely accepted him and been interested in him and accepted him with genuinely open arms. Some may say Rocky or Anna have, however it appears he is more of a chore that they take on for their own benefit. I say this because I really do not know what he could have in common with either of them to make them want to be close to him. Under these circumstances genuine improvement cannot happen. He's in his 30s now anyways... Say he eventually gets to the point where he is functional. It will likely take another decade to get there. So what? He will marginally contribute to society for 10 years until dementia begins to set in when he's in his mid-late 50s? This sounds A-logish, but he's worth more to society as a lolcow than he would be pushing carts at Krogers.
 
Chris's chance for normalcy died before he was 10. He was allowed to be a special snowflake child, instead of a person with autism, so he was allowed to fixate on things that simply won't help him later in life. If he had fixated on engine repair, or numbers, or even something like animal care, there would be hope. He fixated on games and toys. There is no hope.

Chris will never "improve" in the sense that he'll be considered normal, or get a job, or accomplish any of the things that anyone without autism would consider to be the marks of success. A more likely scenario could go down one of two paths.

1. He will end up in a care home by order of the state, probably with other autistic adults. He'll be miserable, but he won't be alone.

2. Unable to care for himself, and too stubborn to change, he will end up homeless in the streets, alone, living on handouts, and being totally miserable.

There is a 3rd option, where he ends up in jail, but when he gets out, he'll have to go somewhere. Either way, his story does not have a happy ending.
 
The Lizard Queen said:
Chris's chance for normalcy died before he was 10. He was allowed to be a special snowflake child, instead of a person with autism, so he was allowed to fixate on things that simply won't help him later in life. If he had fixated on engine repair, or numbers, or even something like animal care, there would be hope. He fixated on games and toys. There is no hope.
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Plenty of people fixate on his hobbies and succeed. They become cartoonists, game devs, etc. The problem with Chris is he sucks at everything and stays that way because he's too stupid to realize he sucks at everything. Had he been fixated on engine repair he would probably put a car back together, and then blame the trolls when it actually breaks from him putting it together wrong.
 
Chris has changed, but I wouldn't say he has improved. In 2007 he was an insanely gullible clown-shirted biggot who would freely discuss his horrible perversions on Youtube and post videos of himself sperging about Sonichu, the trolls or whatever idiotic idea he had at the moment.

Now fast-forward to 2015, and what do we have ? An epic failure of a tranny wearing garish clothes who can still be led around by his ugly growth by trolls (as the Catherine saga demonstrated), is as homophobic as ever (but conceals it so as to not piss off the female members of his new community), freely discusses his horrible perversions on facebook (limongina, the self-impregnation rant) and has moved from sperging on Youtube to sperging in real life over the silliest things (the blarms).

Bottom line is : there's no exit for Chris. He'll probably continue to change, but don't expect him to ever approach normalcy, even by trannies' standards.
 
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Okay. Point here. People keep talking about Christine attaining "Normalcy".

To what end?

I mean- getting a job, actual real social interaction, being on her own, etc. All those are good things to strive for. But being "normal"? Reading what's on the top ten bestseller list, listening to what's on the top of the pop, wearing polos & khaki, nodding along with NSNBC/Fox News, shopping at Old Navy.....

Fuck that.

Weirdos are what make the world interesting.
 
Sir Walter Raleigh said:
What would happen to Chris if Barb improved?
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It'd be about 30 years too late I'm afraid. Although Barb deciding she didn't want the hoard and actually treating Chris like a son would possibly help reshape Chris' disturbed perception of adulthood.

I don't think Chris could ever be normal, his autism, upbringing and personality kinda prevent it. The best he can really hope for is to have a home to live in and avoid jail.
 
Subconcious Offense said:
I wish there was a way to hear them out. They seem to be the first group in a long time that he gets along with or at least tolerate on a personal level for any length of time since that old Game Place.
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I don't think there is too much to be read into that. It's a place where people go to socialize. People are generally inclined to be polite and reasonably friendly to others. Even if the other person is weird and awkward, most people will be friendly for a few minutes as long as it is appropriate. So all Chris needed was a place where people go to socialize.

In the past he has had the sense that his church congregation was his private army of friends. That waitresses were real "friendly acquaintances" of his. He just needed a place where it is socially acceptable to talk to strangers. Many of those strangers would say friendly things back to Chris and he would have a great time and feel he had socialized.

Other people seem to put a lot of emphasis on the fact that it was an LGBT club. There is some merit to that point, particularly now that he is in his weird tranny stage. But overall, Chris ideal level of socialization is to spend a couple hours somewhere and have occassional brief, friendly conversations with people. That is fairly easy to come by, even for someone like Chris.

For years he couldn't quite find it. He had a resistance to bars. Didn't have any interest in pick-up sports leagues. Didn't have any interest in getting a job. Was banned from the hobby shop in his area. Found the people at his church too old to be friends. Most of the avenues that the rest of us use to find friendly people were closed to him for one reason or another. Now this LGBT thing has opened one for him.
 
Now, I've often wondered this. What if Chris did realize what made people troll him and changed his ways.... it often ended with Hell freezing over, but I'll try to keep the jokes at a minimum.

If Chris changed, I think he'd get rid of Anna as a friend first. He would realize that she only cares about herself and he doesn't need her.

Kengle would be blocked as well. He'd have no reason to continue being friends with Chris.

Then he'd put Barb in a home and try to clean his life up.
 
I've often wondered if Christine ever thought of rebooting her life- I mean dropping off the internet for a couple of years, saving up her money, and then moving far away. It's been done before.

I'll admit it'd be difficult as fuck, but it'd be a fresh drama-free start.
 
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