What is your "utopia"? What would your "perfect society" look like? - Why cant I just run the world?

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A state ruled by antifa
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But Antifa are anarchists and against the state and rulership. Except, well...
 
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This will be a pragmatic view because with a principled view I wouldn't even want control of the world.

I'm a realist so I'm not gonna assume that everyone will love everything I do just because I'm the glorious dictator. Because of this, the first course of action would be to redraw the borders, or at least divide certain nations like the US into its states, to make it difficult for anyone to fight for their independence. Would start with more apathetic parts of the world like Western Europe. (See Stalin in Central Asia or the Europeans in the Middle East.)

It is for the same reason that China style control over the media and what people say would have to happen. While IRL I'm a fan of freedom of speech and hate censorship, but if one controls the entire world, there would literally be billions of people who also wouldn't be a big fan of you, so hindering their progress at dethroning you would be a necessity. (See the PRC, or most authoritarian governments for that matter.)

Death Arenas. As in rounding up death row inmates (or even those with high-tier crimes but not on death row) and putting them in Hunger Game's style battle royales. People can of course bet on the winner(s). Bread and circuses. (See Roman Empire.)

Tax cuts. Support boost and to help the economy. Would substitute funding of the world government via tapping into the resources of the planet. Screw Environmentalism. (See oil nations like UAE or KSA, and see tax heavens like Singapore or Hong Kong.)

Funding towards certain projects like eliminating disease, cancer, etc. Support boost.

Funding towards cool stuff like asteroid mining. Support and economy boost. (See SpaceX.)

Funding towards random shit like genetic engineering and catgirls, just to see if it can become a reality, then progressing onto things like turning people into catgirls. (See Elon Musk.)

Living in riches with people I like while sending people I don't like to the death arenas.

This all probably wouldn't last a few years before the world descends into chaos because true utopia can never be achieved, but it would be fun while it lasted.
 
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I'd want to develop some kind of pod-city that could survive inhospitable environments, and let anyone who wanted a space set up shop in one. One can be a white man's nation, one can be a multicultural melting pot, one can be an anarchist experiment. Whatever society you can dream up, here's a bubble to try it out in. Make them modular, so successful societies can expand painlessly. The catch would be free passage. Allow anyone who wants to move to join whatever society they choose.

You really love communism? Cool, here's your new home. You want to see everyone armed to whatever degree they please? Off to Gun-world with you. Sort everyone according to what they claim to want, and let all of them play off each other.

Eventually, some thing's gonna float to the top and that something will be a model for the rest of the world to follow. For better or worse.
 
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BillionBisonBucks said:
I'd want to develop some kind of pod-city that could survive inhospitable environments, and let anyone who wanted a space set up shop in one. One can be a white man's nation, one can be a multicultural melting pot, one can be an anarchist experiment. Whatever society you can dream up, here's a bubble to try it out in. Make them modular, so successful societies can expand painlessly. The catch would be free passage. Allow anyone who wants to move to join whatever society they choose.

You really love communism? Cool, here's your new home. You want to see everyone armed to whatever degree they please? Off to Gun-world with you. Sort everyone according to what they claim to want, and let all of them play off each other.

Eventually, some thing's gonna float to the top and that something will be a model for the rest of the world to follow. For better or worse.
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Well that's cool and all but....if you give everyone free passage then what's stopping a black man from just moving into the AllWhite society or vice versa? Whats stopping a Neo-Nazi from trying to infiltrate and attack the communist one?
 
BillionBisonBucks said:
You really love communism? Cool, here's your new home. You want to see everyone armed to whatever degree they please? Off to Gun-world with you. Sort everyone according to what they claim to want, and let all of them play off each other.
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And you don't get to go to some alternate utopia and then say "except for this thing which you have to change for MEEEEEEEEE."
 
ZeCommissar said:
Well that's cool and all but....if you give everyone free passage then what's stopping a black man from just moving into the AllWhite society or vice versa? Whats stopping a Neo-Nazi from trying to infiltrate and attack the communist one?
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Nothing, other then there being little to be gained. Hardening against attack would be part of what the experiment would select for.
AnOminous said:
And you don't get to go to some alternate utopia and then say "except for this thing which you have to change for MEEEEEEEEE."
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Yeah, start your own if that one thing is such a sticking point. I actually think virtually indistinguishable societies vying for population would be really interesting (and hilarious).
 
BillionBisonBucks said:
Yeah, start your own if that one thing is such a sticking point. I actually think virtually indistinguishable societies vying for population would be really interesting (and hilarious).
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Also what if some utopia had a defining rule that, for instance, only 500,000 people were allowed in it ever? And then lots more wanted to actually join it.
 
AnOminous said:
Also what if some utopia had a defining rule that, for instance, only 500,000 people were allowed in it ever? And then lots more wanted to actually join it.
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Someone copies their ruleset without the population limit and becomes infinitely more prosperous - unless the population limit is key to the utopia's success, which would be very valuable data.
 
I'd build the Mile High Neon brothel in Salt Lake City. All employees would have big toothy smiles and bare resemblance to Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, or Farrah Abraham. All patrons with a disability receive free drinks and entertainment. Russell Greer is permanently banned, but is kept on the mailing list for updates on events and new employees.
 
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Pretty much today's world, but I have a platinum credit card directly siphoning from the treasury with no charge limit, I am allowed to execute those who displease me, and once a month a comely lass of ample bosom is brought to my quarters where she and last month's girl engage in a threesome with me, and I choose which one I want to keep for the next month.
 
Humanity has matured past petty bullshit and work through disagreements and problems through diplomacy and get back to business of discovery and improving ourselves with no lasting ill effects. There is mutual respect for one another, even if we disagree.







Oh wait. This already exists.

It's called Star Trek.
 
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Guts Gets Some said:
It's called Star Trek.
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If this were the Star Trek timeline (as of Star Trek canon before JJ Abrams messed it up), there'd be good news and bad news.

bad news: World War 3 is just around the corner, followed by the post-atomic horrors like drugged soldiers and lawyer-less courts.

good news: But by the 2060s, the first warp drive is successfully tested, first contact is made, and things start to turn around.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
If this were the Star Trek timeline (as of Star Trek canon before JJ Abrams messed it up), there'd be good news and bad news.

bad news: World War 3 is around the corner, followed by the post-atomic horrors.

good news: But by the 2060s, the first warp drive is successfully tested, first contact is made, and things start to turn around.
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I know all this. I'm not saying I wish this were Star Trek canon or timeline or anything, I'm saying realistically, the future portrayed by Roddenberry is exactly why the series became what it is. It's a great future to look forward to. And I'm not the only one who thought so.
 
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Guts Gets Some said:
I'm not the only one who thought so.
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When I was a kid I hoped we'd have free access to space flight.

Maybe being able to explore the universe and encounter any life out there could have a "calm down" effect on people of Earth.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
When I was a kid I hoped we'd have free access to space flight.

Maybe being able to explore the universe and encounter any life out there could have a "calm down" effect on people of Earth.
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I was told we'd have flying cars, but instead, the government will cut your cock off for you.
 
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