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Don't forget that he's a 3rd rate mod because of the previous waves of mods that quit.
What makes you obsess so hard about DSP? - a genuine question
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Don't forget that he's a 3rd rate mod because of the previous waves of mods that quit.
xAnonAnonX
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But that was a huge promotion for him, after all he became more than just his paypig that will be banned as soon as he stops donating. He became paypig moderator that will be banned as soon as he stops donating.
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Being real for a moment even if this does become :powerlevel: and :a-log: my issue with phil is the pity party, the claim that he has been depressed and suffered.
The man doesn't know the meaning of those words. Suffering to him is not being able to play a game day one for money, suffering to me is going blind in one eye. His victim complex makes me physically sick.
The man doesn't know the meaning of those words. Suffering to him is not being able to play a game day one for money, suffering to me is going blind in one eye. His victim complex makes me physically sick.
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@BSV first off, merry Christmas.
Second off, believe it or not, I like you fam. You meme the shit out of people and are a huge gift to the forums for the amount of sheer salt and 'tism you bring to us.
But I think you don't really have any idea why we dislike Phil. Or why we take note of his personal life.
1) DSP lies. A lot. If he was just a charismatic dude and made a shitton in donations that's fine. But he dosent get donations due to charisma. He gets donations because he guilts the shit out of his audience for either things that are 100% his fault or things he fabricates. There is evidence of him doing this in the past.
2) He takes children's money. This is related closely to #1. He takes advantage of kids who don't know any better and makes them think if they feed him money his stream will get better. His core audience is children. This does NOT mean you are a child or child-like, just you aren't his target audience.
3). He's not a nice person. He's an absolute shithead to anyone whose not sucking his dick 24/7 or giving him money. Look at literally any TIHYDP of a fighting game or even just how he addresses criticisms on Twitter (Spoiler alert: everyone who disagrees with him is an idiot moron kid that is retarded). Even if that's only 5% of his stream, he is an absolute ass to people and constantly shits on them. If he loses? Calls them shit and sometimes dosent rematch. If they win and don't rematch? He goes on a 30-90 second rant of how shit they are. He bans anyone who criticizes him and dosent follow his own stream rules that he wrote. He literally bans anyone who possibly questions his enormous and underserved ego.
I know you'll ignore this because I'm not calling you a paedophile or saying you're autistic (you tend to thrive on negativity), but as Phil says 300x a stream, "there ya go".
Second off, believe it or not, I like you fam. You meme the shit out of people and are a huge gift to the forums for the amount of sheer salt and 'tism you bring to us.
But I think you don't really have any idea why we dislike Phil. Or why we take note of his personal life.
1) DSP lies. A lot. If he was just a charismatic dude and made a shitton in donations that's fine. But he dosent get donations due to charisma. He gets donations because he guilts the shit out of his audience for either things that are 100% his fault or things he fabricates. There is evidence of him doing this in the past.
2) He takes children's money. This is related closely to #1. He takes advantage of kids who don't know any better and makes them think if they feed him money his stream will get better. His core audience is children. This does NOT mean you are a child or child-like, just you aren't his target audience.
3). He's not a nice person. He's an absolute shithead to anyone whose not sucking his dick 24/7 or giving him money. Look at literally any TIHYDP of a fighting game or even just how he addresses criticisms on Twitter (Spoiler alert: everyone who disagrees with him is an idiot moron kid that is retarded). Even if that's only 5% of his stream, he is an absolute ass to people and constantly shits on them. If he loses? Calls them shit and sometimes dosent rematch. If they win and don't rematch? He goes on a 30-90 second rant of how shit they are. He bans anyone who criticizes him and dosent follow his own stream rules that he wrote. He literally bans anyone who possibly questions his enormous and underserved ego.
I know you'll ignore this because I'm not calling you a paedophile or saying you're autistic (you tend to thrive on negativity), but as Phil says 300x a stream, "there ya go".
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CleverTiger
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Sparkletor
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I'm not obsessed with Phil, he's just a way to burn some down time when I have nothing better to do. Not like I watch and moderate chat and forums for hours, watch 2-7 hour long detractor streams, spend the whole day sperging at kiwis, lurking detractor Twitter accounts...
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Valid question. Months after the group disbanded, Phil remains convinced they're the reason behind everything bad that ever happens to him. The core group of delusional kids on Phil's dead forums feed and buy into that paranoia, to the point where they seem to think the SoK is now a cabal of fucking Batman villains. This just goes to prove that Phil's worst enemy is himself. Even if people were to let him be, he'd continue to fuck himself over with his constant lies, greed, and toxic behavior.
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Merry Christmas to you too. You are almost the only one with a decent response who isn't some kind of personal insult. So thanks for that.
I understand that you at least think phil lies a lot. I personally have seen him talk about a few things that may have been an exaggeration. Not a lie per se. But told a story which is exaggerated.
Now the Escort situation is different. Because This isn't some story he have made up. It's from a 3rd party.
So saying he lies about that is factually wrong. He have only denied it ever took place. And there haven't been anything to prove it.
Remember before this people where saying there wasn't a girl at all.
And people tried to examine reflections in pictures to find the identity to the person, and combed through his social media to try to find the person.
And then the story was that he was just making it up all together.
If something is fabricated it is this Escort story. I think even most people know, but likes to play autistic to be annoying.
It's the most unfunny thing I have seen happen here ever. Because it completely changes the standards,
I hate repeating myself, but what stops people from, being Phils Drug dealer, tax attourney, someone in phils family or whatever.
If you are going to have a rollplay forum where you are playing "dungeons and dragoons DSP edition" fine.
Just be honest about it.
"the escort need to roll a 6 to make phil pay her instead of the tax attourney" *an old friend of phil enters the frey with a PS2*
Except for a few people. Most of phils viewers I have talked with is in their early to mid 20's
This is kind of the most asinine claims that his demographic is kids. If you have nothing to back this up. I suggest you drop the bullshit. This is also just a rumor that sounds funny without any real evidence behind it.
If this is true, and you are so bothered by it. stop obsessing over him. I can name many internet personalities I don't like.
But I do not obsess about them. I don't care at all.
People are different and have different taste in what content they consume online.
If phil had some issues that he was fronting you could challenge him on. Fine
But it's just basically "I don't like him"
Do you go to places and people you don't like in general to? Because it makes no sense.
The answer i get is that people like to laugh of what he is doing.
And that is just fine. But please don't create stories, and support people that make "sagas" that are not real. Or do but be honest and say you are just casual rollplayers and phil is the topic.
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There's a clear difference between staying up-to-date on something and this "obsessing" you talk about. Fred Fuchs was obsessed. The vast majority of people on KF and other detractors are driven by something that is both simple and common: people love staring at a train wreck. And if there is any simple definition of Phil Burnell, it is "human train wreck." His general bumblings on the internet and his hilariously awful attempts at playing video games are entertaining. It's like watching a hippopotamus attempting to be a rocket scientist. He's a humorous distraction for detractors, as it's a merciful reminder that -- much like with Anthony Burch -- they'll never be Phil Burnell.
SilkyEnigma
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Has Phil proved he is in some sort of tax situation and its totally not his fault whatsoever other than just saying he is. Yes or No.
Once you answer that. Apply your answer to your reasoning why you believe the escort situation is complete bullshit because you've seen no concrete evidence, and why in Phil's situation you're willing to throw thousands when you've seen the same amount or even less evidence with his situation.
Thats all you have to do and you'll see your own hypocrisy.
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Honestly, it's more that I like watching him being a very inept huckster and doomsday prophet at this point, only with 'detractors' instead of Nibiru or the Nephilim. Though that's mainly because any entertainment I had out of him as a gamer was lost because he lets chat do the thinking and work now.
But ya, I imagine dumping enough money to buy a decent used car or a brand new heating system or bed as a good sign of obsession. Also a desire to self-mutilate given that the only person this spites is the payee in my book. It's more funny than annoying.
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Fine so stare at the trainwreck, don't try to derail the train for fun. That is all I am saying.
My own hypocrisy. I haven't confirmed or denied any tax story. All it is is a story. And personally i think it is credible but exaggerated. We had a long discussion about this in the Fake Escort thread.
And in any case this is a story DSP tells himself. You may obsess about that all you want.
The Escort on the other hand. Is a totally made up story not even from DSP. It's a huge difference. This is your made up rollplay autism shit, DSP would not need any evidence, because he won't have any if it isn't true. He can't prove conclusively that he haven't had an escort over. That is impossible.
I think there is like a defect with most people on this forum where they don't understand that the accuser have to prove the story, not the other way around.
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so from todays stream he racked in enough cash to pay that tax bill if it's a few thousand dollars like HE has stated multiple times. he has already paid the new tax attorney. so he won't be asking for extra donations next month
i mean unless he needs it, for what i wouldn't know. the main thing is the tax issue is resolved with no proof of it being there, like you said it's hard to prove it isn't there, so where is the truth/proof for his hardcore fanbase. not even for detractors or w/e you want to call this thread. but for the people donating hundreds/thousands it seems where is the piece of paper with redacted information?
EDIT: before you claim its because he doesn't have it, he has claimed he is aware he owes so something is there to scare him to collect
i mean unless he needs it, for what i wouldn't know. the main thing is the tax issue is resolved with no proof of it being there, like you said it's hard to prove it isn't there, so where is the truth/proof for his hardcore fanbase. not even for detractors or w/e you want to call this thread. but for the people donating hundreds/thousands it seems where is the piece of paper with redacted information?
EDIT: before you claim its because he doesn't have it, he has claimed he is aware he owes so something is there to scare him to collect
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You can insult me and talk in circles all you want but Phil hasn't presented nothing to validate his story, and it isn't credible outside of your delusions of just wanting to believe what he says.
(And even you know he is exaggerating so, wtf?)
You say without a doubt the escort story is made up. How come DSPs tax story can't be made up when he's presented absolutely no evidence of his tax issues even existing? The same amount of concrete evidence has been presented, which is none. So how come?
Ill answer it for you, because you're a fucking hypocrite BSV. Just admit it.
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I'm fairly new to the whole DSP phenomenon, but what I've seen from the man himself is utterly repugnant with how he talks to his so-called fans. The whole idea of someone being such a colossal asshole to his supporters, who pretty much have made his whole YouTube career, really grates on my nerves. I'd say that I'm honestly more fascinated by his own lack of self-awareness to his own faults and his complete and total unwillingness to claim that anything was his fault. Now, I've gone and watched a video detailing what he used to be like in like... 2010 or so? versus what he's become and it's more than a little jarring because while he may have been something of an oddity back then, he was certainly much more optimistic (I'm being generous and assuming that this was legit) while the more modern ones have him deliver scathing insults about his own viewer base that, if said by anyone else, would've cratered their popularity in a nutshell (Take for instance JoshJepson catching flak for complaining about a Versus episode on a Super Smash Bros. Melee video he did with AttackingTucans, granted Jepson certainly climbed back and seems to have taken care with how he comes across in text.). Not to get too political, but he honestly comes across as a NEET version of Donald Trump.
Now, I personally haven't levied any attack upon Phil nor do I really plan to, it's a waste of time to try and talk some sense into someone who takes any kind of criticism as "trolling." I do enjoy the sublime feeling of schadenfreude when it comes to him setting himself up to fail. I mean, tax situation be damned, you make a Patreon goal and you hit the goal, then the reward should be honored no matter what. I get that Phil is in dire straits financially (paying taxes or his escort, whatever the case) but what amazes me is that people will actively defend not fulfilling a Patreon goal, and the sadder part here is that the Super Mario Sunshine thing isn't the first time he's done this. Project 7 was put on indefinite hold (read: Never being done) after he got the goal for that. Did he refund people their pledges? No, the only one who got a measly dollar back was Fred Fuchs. How people can defend such a disgusting character is beyond me. Then don't even get me started on the whole Leanna thing, no matter what the story is, the fact is that he publicly disclosed someone else's private medical history and then has the gall to say that she's "not allowed" to go back to the hospital.
I mean, being bad at games is nothing, hell I could probably surpass Phil in some of my fails. I cannot see how people are willing to continue pissing away their hard earned dollars to someone who has shown their true colors as a disgusting pig.
All that being said, if you do like Phil, then good for you. But you do not have to mindlessly defend him. You act as if you have some personal stake in Phil's honor, and that I sincerely do not understand. But hey... whatever pops your firecracker.
Now, I personally haven't levied any attack upon Phil nor do I really plan to, it's a waste of time to try and talk some sense into someone who takes any kind of criticism as "trolling." I do enjoy the sublime feeling of schadenfreude when it comes to him setting himself up to fail. I mean, tax situation be damned, you make a Patreon goal and you hit the goal, then the reward should be honored no matter what. I get that Phil is in dire straits financially (paying taxes or his escort, whatever the case) but what amazes me is that people will actively defend not fulfilling a Patreon goal, and the sadder part here is that the Super Mario Sunshine thing isn't the first time he's done this. Project 7 was put on indefinite hold (read: Never being done) after he got the goal for that. Did he refund people their pledges? No, the only one who got a measly dollar back was Fred Fuchs. How people can defend such a disgusting character is beyond me. Then don't even get me started on the whole Leanna thing, no matter what the story is, the fact is that he publicly disclosed someone else's private medical history and then has the gall to say that she's "not allowed" to go back to the hospital.
I mean, being bad at games is nothing, hell I could probably surpass Phil in some of my fails. I cannot see how people are willing to continue pissing away their hard earned dollars to someone who has shown their true colors as a disgusting pig.
All that being said, if you do like Phil, then good for you. But you do not have to mindlessly defend him. You act as if you have some personal stake in Phil's honor, and that I sincerely do not understand. But hey... whatever pops your firecracker.
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So people aren't allowed to question whether or not his stories check out? Phil solicits the public for money multiple times a day. His job is sitting down in front of a camera and begging strangers for hand-outs. People fuck with Phil for a myriad of reasons. Some do it because they find it hilarious. Others do it because they believe his actions deem him undeserving of financial help. A pretty large cross-section of people believe that he's being dishonest about his current financial situation. From an outsider's perspective, Phil's constant claims about being on the brink of financial ruin don't jive with his fairly cavalier attitude toward his spending. A person on the edge of bankruptcy doesn't shove fast food down his gullet at the rate Phil does. A person about to lose everything doesn't keep multiple properties that are far too big for his needs; they would have been looking for a smaller place with fewer luxury features to save as much money as possible. A person staring down the potential reality of being destitute within six months doesn't elect to keep multiple luxury entertainment services with monthly charges that chip away at what little income he can sift from the river. Finally, a person walking a financial tightrope over a plunge into poverty would realize that it might be time to swallow his pride and cash it the fuck in while he still has a ghost of a chance to get his head above water once again. I get that Phil is generally unintelligent and lacks the supposed "street smarts" he boasts, but someone must have told him all this kind of common sense stuff hundreds of times over. Phil's stories regarding his current situation are sketchy as shit. We've seen examples of people in Phil's position who have tried to cheat their audiences in the past. Some have succeeded, but Phil's account of events for nearly everything in his "10-year legacy, dood" gets revised and changed to fit his needs at that moment. He has a history of bending facts or even outright lying if it will fit his narrative. He's begging strangers on the Internet for their money; strangers on the Internet, detractors included, are allowed to question, fact-check, and criticize him for it.
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