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Moonraker, Octopussy and A View to a Kill.
In other words, Roger Moore as James Bond.
In other words, Roger Moore as James Bond.
What movie do you think gets overhated too much?
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While this film isn't exactly completely overhated, it's got a mixed reception:
Die Hard 4. Great film, just suffered from that Mac guy (the guy who plays the hacker that Mcclane protects) being a little too annoying at times and the film being a little too ridiculous as well (the fighter jet scene takes the cake) but otherwise, it's great, with good acting, pretty intense action scenes, nice pacing and a fairly interesting plot.
I liked it more than 3 (although mind you, I do consider 3 to be a good film) speaking of which, critics were really mixed with 3, which surprises me given the fan reaction to DH3. Then again, they were really forgiving of DH2, a film that while I don't exactly hate, wasn't that good. (DH5 was the worst one, by far, but DH2 was okay at least. Just very disappointing)
Die Hard 1 is still the best film in the Die Hard series, though, hands down.
Matrix Reloaded is another film that's got a mixed reception, and is a film that personally I think gets too much hate at times. It's a fairly decent sequel that was setting up for a grand finale in the form of Revolutions...which was fucking garbage.
Barring the first 20 minutes, Revolutions was a fucking abomination, so let's leave it at that.
Also, the Hobbit trilogy, while I've only seen the first and third Hobbit films (so I can't say anything about Hobbit 2) I feel like they get too much hate. They are not bad as in, worst films ever, they are just average- okayish. Essentially, the same deal as the Star Wars prequels. Average films that get hated way too much (granted some of the hate is definitely legit, but they are not material for the worst films ever list. They simply aren't THAT bad.)
Die Hard 4. Great film, just suffered from that Mac guy (the guy who plays the hacker that Mcclane protects) being a little too annoying at times and the film being a little too ridiculous as well (the fighter jet scene takes the cake) but otherwise, it's great, with good acting, pretty intense action scenes, nice pacing and a fairly interesting plot.
I liked it more than 3 (although mind you, I do consider 3 to be a good film) speaking of which, critics were really mixed with 3, which surprises me given the fan reaction to DH3. Then again, they were really forgiving of DH2, a film that while I don't exactly hate, wasn't that good. (DH5 was the worst one, by far, but DH2 was okay at least. Just very disappointing)
Die Hard 1 is still the best film in the Die Hard series, though, hands down.
Matrix Reloaded is another film that's got a mixed reception, and is a film that personally I think gets too much hate at times. It's a fairly decent sequel that was setting up for a grand finale in the form of Revolutions...which was fucking garbage.
Barring the first 20 minutes, Revolutions was a fucking abomination, so let's leave it at that.
Also, the Hobbit trilogy, while I've only seen the first and third Hobbit films (so I can't say anything about Hobbit 2) I feel like they get too much hate. They are not bad as in, worst films ever, they are just average- okayish. Essentially, the same deal as the Star Wars prequels. Average films that get hated way too much (granted some of the hate is definitely legit, but they are not material for the worst films ever list. They simply aren't THAT bad.)
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Roger Moore is actually my favorite Bond. He managed to mix silliness with class in such a way that it really works. I'd rather have a guy with metal teeth than Daniel Craig's bored brooding in my spy movies.
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Moore got saddled with playing Bond at a time when the franchise was going in a more campy direction with occasional comic-book like supervillainy: henchmen with indestructible steel teeth or mechanical arms, bad guys with their own private space fortresses, it strained belief. But you can't blame Moore for that.
It's why For Your Eyes Only is one of my favorite Bond flicks. It shows what Moore could've done with Bond had they given him the proper material. It has a believable espionage plot, not much gadgetry, no megalomaniacal villain trying to blow up the world, practical stunt work, a proactive Bond Girl, and one of the best car chases in the franchise. (It was supposed to be a Timothy Dalton role, but he couldn't get out of his contractual obligations elsewhere, so Moore got the nod) So people can lay off Roger.
It's why For Your Eyes Only is one of my favorite Bond flicks. It shows what Moore could've done with Bond had they given him the proper material. It has a believable espionage plot, not much gadgetry, no megalomaniacal villain trying to blow up the world, practical stunt work, a proactive Bond Girl, and one of the best car chases in the franchise. (It was supposed to be a Timothy Dalton role, but he couldn't get out of his contractual obligations elsewhere, so Moore got the nod) So people can lay off Roger.
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Alien Resurrection. Personally, I liked it way better than 3 because 3 was a clusterfuck and in development hell.
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IMO, Resurrection deserves the hate it gets. I give it some leeway because language barriers kept the director from actually communicating with the cast though.
The only thing I liked about that movie was Winona Ryder's hair.
Plus Joss Whedon, because he's Joss Whedon, couldn't just admit he wrote a bad movie. He said he thought it stunk, but then he jerked himself off and bragged about how Clone Ripley and Ryderbot were great metaphors for the LGBT community.
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AR was visually a lot better looking to me and the cast better than in 3 now I know they are convicts and you shouldn't give a shit about them anyway but really besides Tywin being in it and Sigourney Weaver and Ron Pearlman were great but the rest of the cast was terrible as well as the CGI new hybrid xeno.. Beihn wanted more money so FOX axed him as well as Carrie Henn, it was going to be a way different film than it turned out to be. They tried their best but to me it was lackluster and visually boring compared to the others.
I dont like Joss either but when you stack those two up next to one another, AR looks more polished. Makes you wonder how 3 would have been if FOX didnt fuck it up.
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IIRC, the draft used was Joss Whedon's but Whedon's interpretation (More snarky and tongue-in-cheek) clashed with the director Jean-Pierre Jeunet's (Dark, gritty and humorless) making Resurrection as weirdly tone-deaf as it was. The language barrier didn't help in this regard either.
As for my take on Resurrection, it's bad, but it wasn't Prometheus bad.
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William Gibson (Neuromancer) actually wrote an early draft for Alien 3. It took Ripley out of the action for most of the movie and instead focused on Hicks and Bishop exploring a derelict space station.
Would've been a way better movie.
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3 was actually a watchable movie, though. 4 was pretty, and that was probably Jeunet's doing, but the plot was completely unintelligible nonsense. I still have no idea what actually happened. Also the French excuse carries no weight. This is fucking Hollywood, it's not like a French interpreter is that expensive. The fucking UN can afford a whole building full of interpreters.
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FWWM is a masterpiece. It may very well be my favorite David Lynch after Mulholland Dr. I saw it in a theater nearly two years ago and it was one of the most visceral things I've ever experienced. Luckily, its been re-evaluated in recent years.
The Brown Bunny doesn't deserve nearly the amount of hate it gets. Admittedly, I have a bit of a soft spot for Vincent Gallo (Buffalo 66 is a personal favorite of mine, and I find his public persona very amusing), and it's definitely a flawed movie. I found it to be a deeply personal portrait with some really beautiful cinematography and images. Very dream-like, and the blowjob scene wasn't nearly as exploitative as I had anticipated.
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Cat in the Hat gets way too much hate. I liked that movie as a kid and I like it even more now. It's all about how you watch it - if you watch it as a kind of send-up, parody movie to kids' movies, then it's awesome! But yeah, if you except faithfulness to the book, you're gonna have a bad time.
The Lone Ranger also gets what I feel is a very disproportionate amount of hate.
The Lone Ranger also gets what I feel is a very disproportionate amount of hate.
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Given that the writers all worked on Seinfeld and Curb Your Enthusiasm, it makes more sense that the movie was as jarringly adult as it was.
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Bad scifi movies in general. They're a hoot! XD The weird crap that the SCIFI Channel churns out is almost always good for a cheap laugh. Especially when they mangle books.
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I must've be a tard as a child (or just a dumb kid more than likely) but I loved that shit when I was a kid. I even had the gross trading cards. Idk why the fuck my mother would even let me have something like that.
Movies that are universally panned that I actually enjoy as a goof are the first four Police Academy movies and Space Balls. It's not like I'd sit down and watch them on a regular basis, but If I caught them on TV sometime, I wouldn't turn them off right away and even get a few chuckles out of them. That Larvelle Jones (the guy that makes the funny noises) still cracks me up. Luckily, he's in both Space Balls and probably all of the Police Academies even though the movies have nothing to do with each other.
Verhouven didn't read the book though, he said he stopped after two chapters because he thought it was stupid. Instead, he had the film's screenwriter, Ed Neumeier, tell him the story.
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I genuinely liked Sucker Punch as a spectacle in a sort of old school MTV music video that ran for close to two hours. I'll grant the plot was about as incoherent as any I've ever seen and the dialog was borderline painful, but damn did it have some arresting visuals. Amusingly, I've also seen it called a movie that caters to GamerGaters AND a movie that flopped because GamerGaters hated on it.
Anyone have an opinion on Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow? I've only seen the trailer and a couple of reviews that all hate on it. But it seems like the kind of dumb movie I'd probably like as well.
Anyone have an opinion on Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow? I've only seen the trailer and a couple of reviews that all hate on it. But it seems like the kind of dumb movie I'd probably like as well.
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I'm a fan of both the Starship Troopers novel and movie, and I liked the changes made to the source material. As-is, Heinlein's work likely would not have made for a very interesting movie. The only issue I had with the movie itself is that the director and writers cultivated a plot which deviated just a touch too far from the minor, minor details.
Combining characters, I'm fine with this. Even completely doing away with others, that is fine. They even did well for ignoring the mechanized armor altogether (though it appeared in the second sequel.) What seemed to be a miss was due to the heavy satirizing of the fascist element drawing the attention away from the fact that other than the names of the characters and the general nature of the Arachnids, it had absolutely nothing to do with the novel.
You could have written this movie with different names, and most people wouldn't have even seen the connection. Keep all the creative decisions in terms of characters and the humorous portrayal of the futuristic society, but at least make a token effort, even a tip of the hat to the original material.
Combining characters, I'm fine with this. Even completely doing away with others, that is fine. They even did well for ignoring the mechanized armor altogether (though it appeared in the second sequel.) What seemed to be a miss was due to the heavy satirizing of the fascist element drawing the attention away from the fact that other than the names of the characters and the general nature of the Arachnids, it had absolutely nothing to do with the novel.
You could have written this movie with different names, and most people wouldn't have even seen the connection. Keep all the creative decisions in terms of characters and the humorous portrayal of the futuristic society, but at least make a token effort, even a tip of the hat to the original material.
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I haven't seen Sky Captain in years since I saw it in the theater, but I remember loving it. If I watched it again now it might be goofy, but hardly bad.