Containment What will happen when Chris goes to prison? - Or a mental hospital. Or anything in between.

The legal system of Virginia is probably so tired of having to deal with Chris. They've practically been handed a reason to finally crack down hard on him so I have reason to believe they will. His las run in with the law was trespassing at the mall hed been banned from and having gone from red to blue and introduced that shitty therapeutic docket program they sent Chris to it to see if it could work clearly it didn't.
Somehow I'm putting my irons in the fire that Chris will wiggle out of this one too.

If it was anyone else I would say that they're goners; he won't get off scot-free, but I don't believe it's going to be as harsh as we would like it to be.
 
They might throw Chris into womens' prison because that's what they're starting to do in order to be more PC, as wrong as it'd be do feed into his delusions.
The women (or men if I'm wrong) will want nothing to do with Chris because he's socially inept, but once they hear why he got arrested they'll want him dead. Even most criminals aren't fond of rapists and elder abusers, especially those who abuse their own mothers.
Chris will likely die in prison either from a poorly-attempted suicide or by shanking; the latter becomes more likely if he goes to a men's prison. This will likely be helped by the fact that Chris has no Twitter, no Sonichu drawings, no vidya, no tugboat, nothing - everything he took for granted, gone and replaced by steel bars.

If Chris goes to a mental health facility he's not going to get any better and while he'll be safe from suicide or murder, he will most likely pose a danger to many other patients. I wouldn't send him there because what kind of mental condition causes you to do the shit he did?
 
It could be argued that he was trying to hide the relationship from trolls.
That's... a fair point, actually.

I fought my gag reflex and read the transcript. At one point he mentions that he can't propose to Barb because she's his mother, but he considers it a "True and Honest" relationship. He also expresses remorse than the incest fanfics have come true. He was also evasive with admitting to Dillin Thomas (who he trusted to not tell the trolls) that the recording was genuine.

To me that reads as someone who doesn't consider what they're doing is wrong, but knows society judges it as wrong and that he shouldn't be doing it. The comparison I'd draw is leaked chats from paedophiles talking to each other - they don't think what they're doing is wrong, and discuss it amongst themselves gleefully, but acknowledge they can't let society know. That's different from not knowing it's wrong and just fearing trolling. But I'm not a lawyer.

Regardless Chris has now breached the EPO and stolen $750 off of Barb. He knew that was wrong because he lied to Null about it. That proves he knowingly and willfully breached the EPO, which is a Class 1 Misdemeanor in Virginia (the most serious type of misdemeanor). I think we're seriously looking at jail time here.
 
It could be argued that he was trying to hide the relationship from trolls.
It could be, but that still wouldn't prove he didn't know right from wrong.

Like I said, it's truly not an easy burden of proof, otherwise many people who are accused of crimes that would put them away for many years or that are death penalty eligible would plead insanity solely for the possibility of being able to get out at some point.

I'm in no way saying that, if he's charged (and given what happened this morning during Null's conversation with him, I feel safe saying that he will, at the very least, be charged with violation of the contact order), he won't be able to do it, I'm just saying it won't be easy and it's not a given.

Edit: Re-reading this, I'm realizing that you (@Spike Spiegel ) weren't necessarily saying that this might be used by the defense, but rather by the prosecution, so if I misunderstood your take, I apologize. I'll wait for clarification.
 
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To me that reads as someone who doesn't consider what they're doing is wrong, but knows society judges it as wrong and that he shouldn't be doing it. The comparison I'd draw is leaked chats from paedophiles talking to each other - they don't think what they're doing is wrong, and discuss it amongst themselves gleefully, but acknowledge they can't let society know. That's different from not knowing it's wrong and just fearing trolling. But I'm not a lawyer.

Precisely. Knowing that society believes it's wrong and has deemed it illegal can be enough to nullify an insanity defense. I've seen it before, particularly with pedophiles who attempt this defense. They argue that they can't be held responsible because they are mentally ill and don't believe it's wrong, but when the state proves that they hid evidence of their crimes against children and tried to keep it secret, that's all it takes to invalidate that defense.

I want to stress, yet again, that I'm in no way saying Chris couldn't successfully use this defense, not in the least, just that it is a difficult burden of proof.
 
Edit: Re-reading this, I'm realizing that you (@Spike Spiegel ) weren't necessarily saying that this might be used by the defense, but rather by the prosecution, so if I misunderstood your take, I apologize. I'll wait for clarification.
It could be used either way.
Defense could attempt to argue that while he did not know right from wrong, he knew that trolls may go after him.
Prosecution could say that he knew right from wrong because he was trying to hide it from trolls.
 
I'm assuming if Chris was looking elsewhere for China, they were no longer interested in their polygamous marriage?
 
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First of all, putting a known rapist in a prison with women who could potentially become victims themselves is out of the question, especially since Chris is a biological male.
The judge will base his judgement on Chris' biological gender, not the one he made up in his mind.

Secondly, I don't believe Chris will actually wind up in prison, due to his mental state and the fact that his mannerisms will make him a target.
You can't be seen as 'weak' in prison, and Chris is definitely gonna set off that radar from the get-go.

He will most likely be institutionalized in a mental ward.

But let's say that he does go to the slammer.
He can kiss his hair goodbye first of all, the barber is going to shave that shit straight off of him.

Secondly, the prisoners are going to see him as a mark. I don't expect them to know that he's -the- Chris Chan (because they don't have that much access to the internet, if at all) but it'll only be a matter of time before Chris fucks up 'prison etiquette' - from sitting in the wrong seat to looking in the wrong person's cell.

But most damningly of all, Chris is going to be seen as a snitch in prison, based on his habit of divulging information where he should be keeping his fucking mouth shut.
That is most likely what is going to get him killed in prison.

But another thing that might get him in trouble in prison is his 'paper work.'
Prisoners can pull your case details simply by asking their lawyers about it.
The second they find out that he raped his aging mother, they are going to find some way to punish him for it.
Probably not to the severity as they would a 'chomo' (child molester) but convicts see it as their duty to fuck you up if the crime you commit is too much, even for them.


Also, prisoners will not take kindly to Chris acting like an entitled pissant.
Even IF somebody takes him in and shows him the ropes, again, Chris royally fucks up such relationships (as seen with Null) and it will earn him a savage beating.
For example, Larry Lawton (a jewel thief who runs a Youtube channel) relates the tale of how he beat the shit out of somebody for leaving the sink in their cell filthy, even after he told them to clean it when they were done shaving.

Do you honestly think that Chris, with all of the looney nonsense he does, would go a week without getting his ass kicked in?


On the gullible side of things, Chris might attempt to join a gang (and of course, delude himself into thinking that they'll be his personal bodyguards.)
No dice, kid. Usually, they will ask you for a favour, and it'll NEVER be one you'll like.
Favours include 'moving' somebody from their seat (a.k.a. stabbing them,) but most likely, they will ask Chris to 'suitcase' things like drugs for them (smuggle things up his ass.)

Granted, this won't earn any respect. He'll get used and abused in the big house in this manner, and that's IF, because of him being a 'Tomgirl,' he doesn't get outright converted into a prison ho, in which case, sausage will constantly be on his menu, one way or the other. And he can't say 'No,' either. He'll do it, or they'll split him in half while the whole cell block listens to him screaming for mercy.


As for solitary away from general population?
That actually might work for him, but it's going to be outright torture for somebody with autism.
He'll definitely go crazier in there.



....so now that I've painted that picture for you, you can see why he mightn't go to a prison. He isn't going to last once the prisoners get to know him.
 
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He's going to be a drug mule.
Hope his asshole isn't too tight.

It's not. There's an entire article on the CWCki saying why, but I won't say much more than that because of the rules and because it's nearly lunchtime for some of you.


Quick question, you think somebody's gonna say: "DON'T TELL ANYBODY" as they ram the heroin up his butt?
 
my checklist for why i think chris will go to prison/institution this time.

-this is his third offense. I think the state of virgina will take into account the mistake they made not throwing the book at him over the michael synder and gameplace incidents.

-it's not just incest. It's rape/sexual assualt as well as elder abuse. No sane woman would have sex with her son, she clearly has dementia or alzheimers or something like that, and chris was taking advantage of her to satisfy himself cuz hes a depraved incel. The "begging videos" painted her in an ambiguiously mentally disabled state. but after this bombshell dropped, I would argue he's been lying about how finnacially bad off he really was and he's been exploiting her for more than just sex.

-sounds like there is dna evidence, in Nulls recent post this "new girlfriend" chris contacted him about chris mentioned that he was getting checked out by a doctor to prove he had no std's likely cuz of that hooker he banged a decade ago. This was done likely so he could fuck barb without a condom. his medical exam was on the 20th 10 days prior to 7-30, he fucks barb every 3rd night hes likely had at least 3-4 encounters with her unsheathed. not to mentions the condoms containing his navey are still in the chandler household as well as the bedding covered with semen as the chandlers never bathe im doubtful they regularly do laundry or throw away garbage do them being horders.

-im fairly confident chris will be found of sound mind (at least partially) he knew exactly what he was doing and I'm at least somewhat convinced this whole "dimensional merge" saga is all just a big scam. I think his lawyers may try to play it off as a "not guilty by means of insanity" plea. But I think it won't work.

-chris might take the fall for barbera. If by some miracle barb acting like shes out of touch with reality is all just an act in videos to guilt people into opening their wallets, and she did consentually enter into a sexual union with her son and get caught, then barbera risks jail time too. christian might not want his mother to rot in prison or an institute and might just confess to rape so she gets off scott free (although this is chris and he might try and accuse her of rape so she rots in jail and he gets off scott free lol, as proposteropus of a claim as this might be christian might do it) if thats the case hed get the harshest sentance afforded to him.

-i think his infamy on the internet will come back to haunt him this time. with christory logged from his begaing and to his apparent end there are a number of documented incidents and statements made about him and by him that will hurt his case, like his social media post defending incest between mothers and sons back in 2016, him taking his mom to the prom, his comment about barb being a "guilty pleasure wifu", the chrismas video where he showed his mom weird favoratism over his dad, his mom helping him during the michael synder incident, his mothers odd "jealousy" when he revealed he wanted to share a hotel room with jackie, him "spooning" with his mom in the hotel following the house fire, the photos of him wearing his mothers underwear, his "attraction sign requirements" sounding like he wanted a hot mom he could fuck, the list goes on
 
In general he would have an extremely bad time. He is having the troon issue, the mental ilnesses and a lot of delusion. Reality would really hit him hard there. In general Autism is about not being good with social clues... that sucks in an enviroment where social clues are the thing that keeps you safe(r) from the other inmates.

Could his mental illness etc. be used avoid the proper prison system?
One of my stays in the psych ward involved a religious woman with Down syndrome before being detained to walk up to me reading the Bible and say “it says there will be a man with a beard and mustache please confirm” when I said my name “that’s not your name please confirm” now recently not having slept because of the ssri and shitty bed combo I displayed a distraught expression lol until the nurse basically hauled the holy droolie off. So in short Chris, someone used to being spoiled, used to being spoon fed from whatever spoon he wished refused less of if barb could part with it, would not have fun. It will horrifying for him. Almost fifty, that’s not the place to be, but due to the mismanagement of CWC or perhaps this is beyond mismanagement, he would undoubtedly worse. They don’t combat your delusions in there unless you count Ativan injection for chimpouts. You get “group psychotherapy” and as soon as he goes on about the dimensional merge or whatever, no one is going to socialize with him.
 
Secondly, I don't believe Chris will actually wind up in prison, due to his mental state and the fact that his mannerisms will make him a target.
You can't be seen as 'weak' in prison, and Chris is definitely gonna set off that radar from the get-go.

He will most likely be institutionalized in a mental ward.
I don't think they send you to a mental institution just because you're a weirdo if you get convicted. Maybe a low security prison with mental health facilities.

Also Virginia still has prison work farms, you know, actual farms where you pick beans and shit. There's one between Charlottesville and Richmond I think. Sending Chris to a place like that where he'd have to perform true and honest manual labor is probably the worst punishment you could inflict on him. It's also probably the best thing anyone could do for him.
 
Sexual assault is too serious a crime to be put into a low security prison with hard labour.
Not to mention that Chris has been charged with several malicious crimes in the past, inclusive of hit-and-run, vandalism, shoplifting and assault (with pepper spray.)

As it stands, Chris's rap sheet would now include abuse of the elderly, incest, rape (because Barb did not indicate consent in Chris' account) and larceny.
The incest charge alone can mean significant time in prison, and the larceny would cause an added year or two to it.

As for this:
i think the dimension merge is a scam. i think the court will see it and take into account his record and throw the book at him
...if you truly believe that, you're probably as autistic as Chris is. NOBODY takes that seriously, much less a court of law.
 
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