Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Grand Omega]

"My pronouns are Voi/Void/Voids, Ve/Vim/Vis, They/Them." Not a single fucking person questioned them about how retarded they sound.

Never thought we'd reach the point where the band Voivod would be claimed as a gender.

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

Several years ago we had a serial killer going around our town attacking young women - they caught him after #3 but something about the murders were weird, they were violent opportunistic attacks but there was no sexual component involved.

Not long after the guy was caught he trooned out in prison, and even Wikipedia “respects his pronouns”. He says he only killed the women because he was deeply jealous of them being female because he was a hulking male.

Now most MtF dialogue I read online is all about how jealous they are of young women and how dysphoric women make them and (insert violent TERF killing fantasy etc etc ) and I just think it’s incredibly dangerous.

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

(insert violent TERF killing fantasy etc etc )

My “favourite” are TERF rape fantasies. So feminine, much oppressed.

 

[LeChampion1992]

The British Labour Party electing an AGP troll as a Women's Officer. And the amount of very dodgy troons getting into media and politics positions and no one daring to call them out. Talk about clownworld, it was just the shutting down of debate and overriding of rationality in favour of SJW cultishness that got me.

Plus, spending time on the farms made me aware of just how many perverted, misogynistic AGP men are using social justice as a shield. I don't hang out in those spheres so I wasn't aware how infested they are.
And if I point out that this subsection of the trans er...movement (Community? IDK) I'll be unpersoned as a transphobe for not bowing down to an anti-free-speech agenda.

And after hitting peak trans, everything I see seems to make me more concerned:
We now live in such a dumbed-down world that everything has to be simplified and binary. So if I say I support genuine trans people yet condemn the AGP pervert agenda it just does not compute. Either you're on the side of the SJW view du jour or you're a monstrous bigot. No room for nuance. It is so fucking sinister.

And I feel bad for the trannies that SRS is just horrific genital mutilation but they're pressured into it nonetheless.

Not to mention the predatory transing of children.
And the linguistic war on women.

The troon shit unfortunately does seem to be part of a big conspiracy to get people who would be fomenting revolutions in the street right now and convince them to sterilize themselves so the elites can live like kings for generations to come.

Revolt against the modern world not because it's ugly or because it's hollow. Revolt against the modern world because it is evil.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

Ok, minor PL: I had someone very close to me troon out. He was always a weird sex pest who watched way too much lesbian porn but he was still funny.

At the time I thought I would be as supportive as possible. So I went on some trans dedicated subreddits just to read what their experience is like….

Those posts were all sexist, fetish garbage. It made me feel so sick. This whole time I had supported LGBTQ+ blindly. TIMS are woman-hating narcissists adorned in garish rainbow.

I was so shocked and disillusioned, I began questioning every single political and social stance I believed in. I have 0 trust in any institution or people that claim TWAW. They’re either ignorant or deviant.

In the beginning, I tried to quietly voice my doubts to another close friend (a self proclaimed ACAB/BLM communist.) He told me “you’re just parroting off alt-right talking points!” - when I wasn’t. I was literally just asking questions like “Where does the trans woman get their perception of womanhood?” Or “Isn’t a neovagina an unnecessary and painful experimental surgery if it doesn’t lower suicide rates?”

I was told that I had been brainwashed by right wing extremists FOR SIMPLY ASKING QUESTIONS IN THE MOST POLITE WAY POSSIBLE. So then I thought “huh, I wonder what else these bigots are saying…”

Still makes my blood boil. I no longer associate with any of them and I’m pretty sure they think I’m a fascist.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Ok, minor PL: I had someone very close to me troon out. He was always a weird sex pest who watched way too much lesbian porn but he was still funny.

At the time I thought I would be as supportive as possible. So I went on some trans dedicated subreddits just to read what their experience is like….

Those posts were all sexist, fetish garbage. It made me feel so sick. This whole time I had supported LGBTQ+ blindly. TIMS are woman-hating narcissists adorned in garish rainbow.

I was so shocked and disillusioned, I began questioning every single political and social stance I believed in. I have 0 trust in any institution or people that claim TWAW. They’re either ignorant or deviant.

In the beginning, I tried to quietly voice my doubts to another close friend (a self proclaimed ACAB/BLM communist.) He told me “you’re just parroting off alt-right talking points!” - when I wasn’t. I was literally just asking questions like “Where does the trans woman get their perception of womanhood?” Or “Isn’t a neovagina an unnecessary and painful experimental surgery if it doesn’t lower suicide rates?”

I was told that I had been brainwashed by right wing extremists FOR SIMPLY ASKING QUESTIONS IN THE MOST POLITE WAY POSSIBLE. So then I thought “huh, I wonder what else these bigots are saying…”

Still makes my blood boil. I no longer associate with any of them and I’m pretty sure they think I’m a fascist.

Trust me fren I understand the feeling. You're are not alone in this feeling. So many people are so scared of saying something that's an "alt right" talking point that they will go to literal insane lengths to not be called alt right. This why you're seeing lefties defend pedophile enabling noncery. They have been so brainwashed into thinking right wing bad that they will say pedophiles molesting kids is okay after all we don't want them to be racist or homophobic in the future. Anyways don't lose hope anon all bills come due and the butcher's bill with this troon shit will come to an end mark my words.

 

[BonerMan]

This class isn't about gender or sexuality or transgenders, by the way.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

In the last year or so I've gone from feeling like the troon community had a couple bad eggs and they needed to clean house to feeling like the majority of them are total deviants who need to have their laptops confiscated and their dogs rape kitted.

KiwiFarms did this. Even though Tranniv, for example, is a high-profile degenerate who should be Minecrafted (in Minecraft), it gives me the willies that there are dozens if not hundreds of people wandering the Bay Area at any given time who are incel diaperfurs who are 100% open in their hatred of women.

It'd be like wandering into a German restaurant and finding a big old poster on the wall about how all Jews need to die and 100 Germans just chilling in there like nothing is wrong. Like even if some of them are not supportive of the sentiment, it calls for more than a house cleaning when that sentiment is allowed to stand with majority complicity and total lack of opposition from anyone there.

Reading random tweets from random troons is like that. Maybe not all of them have this hatred towards woman, but the sheet vitriol from some of them is scary, and the bobblehead inability of anyone in that sphere to say, "This rhetoric is excessive and gross" is doubly scary.

Twitter won't let you post links to AmRen but you can totally post "ALL CIS SCUM NEED TO DIE" and nobody gives a shit, because like the Germans chilling in the restaurant, on some level they think this is a reasonable sentiment and if they opposed it, they would leave.

 

[Theladyinblack]

I'm seeing this with my sister. She moved out and she hangs out all day with a group of 'discord friends' and constantly talks about how they're all super super gay as if it's the defining point in their lives. She's talked about trannies among them and recently my sister "came out" as trans in the this long slide of increasingly deranged behaviour.

My sister is a deeply unhappy and anxious person and seeing this only reaffirms my opinion that "trans" is a fucking cult that seeks out vulnerable people. And now I have to watch my sister mutiliate herself.

I am very sorry that your sister has such a weak mind and had contact with those twisted people.

 

[Nate Higgers]

Seeing actual legitimate blue collar pro-union leftist types saying we need to "center trans voices" or whatever is absolutely pathetic.

If someone in my local ever said some shit like that we’d never let them live it down.

Slightly off topic: when I was an apprentice electrician we had a SJW type cunt in our class who was the quintessential stereotypical leftist “activist”. She had a fucking masters degree and she had a background in social work and labor organizing but for whatever fucktarded reason this lady made a hugely lateral move by working as an apprentice for $10/hr. She would occasionally be cunty and trash the rest of us for not having college educations and I’d reply by telling her “if you have a masters degree then what the fuck are you doing here? I know how much you make because I make the same (I made more but that’s another discussion)”. She never had a good answer. She’d constantly try to inject her bullshit idpol into a room full of mostly hispanic rightish-of-center construction workers who are more informed about guns and pornstars than politics. Those discussions never ended well for her, ideologically speaking- especially when I wouldn’t be lazy and would actually address her bullshit point by point.

The reason I bring this up is because I get the feeling she had the need to fraud at being “pro blue collar” and “pro working class” but whenever you pressed her hard enough she’d reveal her true colors and start slinging classist trash talk about how we “don’t understand” because we “didn’t go to college”. Unsurprisingly she ended up dropping out of the program without becoming a licensed electrician and now she works as a union organizer for some other trade/organization’s local; probably making over $60k/yr for sitting in an office all day dicking around on a computer. You know, real blue collar shit.

 

[N hollandicus]

About 9 year ago when the ‘die cis scum’ shit started to spread in my social circles.
The gender ideology shit got so bad that even in some therian groups (schizos who think they are animals trapped in human bodies) a few therians made fun of the gender thing as peak impractical retardation that only the very pampered human imagination could come up with. Not sure how to feel about how even the ‘hurr durr I’m a wolf in a human body’ autists were making fun of the million genders fan club.

 

[Mans Holeman]

I never believed in any of this gender nonsense but I used to have some sympathy for trans people. I could pity them as mentally unwell people even though they made me cringe and were so unfortunate to look at. Then Yaniv became known and that degenerate was the troon straw that broke the camel's back. I no longer give any tranny the benefit of the doubt. At best they are harmless, obnoxious, loons and at worst they are dangerous perverts. I can only imagine how many other people have also peaked because of the bullshit that Yaniv has done. He should probably earn an award for doing the most harm to his own demographic's reputation.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I can't work out if it just got huge over the past year or if coronavirus related shit forced the troons to become even more insane online. I mean, when most social events were being cut to shreds the only places to chat to your friends were online, and troons tend to be perma-online autists anyway.

However I distinctly remember the trans bathrooms issue being one of the last controversies before the 2016 election, and part of me wonders if that's what pushed Trump over the edge in some areas. Back then I was sure it was a dumb issue because it's such a minority issue that it actively isolates the majority of the population by even bringing it up. I guess I just didn't realise HOW pozzed the world had gotten with the trannies.

What's funny is that I'm still not 100% tranny hate, even though I rip into shit trannies all the time. I have some decent friends who are trans, and not transbian types, I'm talking mtf's who are into men and generally just homosexuals with an extreme crossdressing fetish but whatever, they do them. Generally as long as trannies keep themselves to themself and actually attempt to look like their desired gender I'm all for it. Bonus points for being in a long term relationship and also being a productive member of society.

But when I see the types of trannies who are convinced that they're 100% women or men and their disfigured genitals are proof of that, when I see them try and barge their way into sporting debates, tearing apart the LGBT community with infighting etc then I know that all of this is just cope to give them an identity.

I know this is probably spergposting here, but the current situation reminds me a lot of the Jeffery Dahmer situation. The police were so confused with the situation, and didn't see him as particularly threatening because of it so were happy to give him his victim back. Right now people are so... indifferent of the situation that some actual predatory trans people could absolutely commit full blown atrocities right in front of our eyes. If you're a police officer you're not even TOUCHING a rape by deception case between a non-tranny and a tranny in this poltical climate. At some point, all of this is going to full on explode and there's going to be a LOT of pushback.

I think that TRANS book charting so high is showing that the average person is close to hitting peak tranny hate, but for now it's a silent majority thing because nobody wants to be the first one to 'throw the brick' as it were. Which is incredibly ironic tbh.

 

[Free the Pedos]

I'm talking mtf's who are into men and generally just homosexuals with an extreme crossdressing fetish but whatever, they do them

Sounds like textbooks HSTSs.

But when I see the types of trannies who are convinced that they're 100% women or men and their disfigured genitals are proof of that,

Hearing troons say that they actually are 100% biologically their preferred sex is what peaked transed me. I can still deal with troons who say "I know I'm biologically one sex but I live as the other and strive to adhere to that role as much as possible", but they're thin on the ground.

 

[Apis mellifera]

Spoiler: rambling

I've always considered myself fairly lolbertarian, as long as it's not harming myself or a vulnerable population, a person can do as they will to find some sort of healing and quietude in their soul. I am of the belief that I person should be allowed to do what they will with their own body, provided they're aware of the risks and ready to deal with the consequences of the risks. A gay effeminate fellow wants to have a nice rack and look like a ladyboy? Sure, what the hell, do as you will. Same goes for the bulldog butch dykes that feel most comfortable with masculinised features and living in a traditionally male role. So, I guess, I have no problem with old-fashioned trannies, so long as we don't have to talk about it and they're just gonna be a chill bloke or civilised lass.

That said, all of this modern nonsense has made me opposed to the whole politicised movement, in the same way that I disagree with Alphabet People pride and all that shit. I can't pick out a specific moment, but I can think of a couple of reasons. Seeing kids being groomed into this lifetime of hormones and body modifications before their brains are even finished developing, with absolutely nobody being allowed to protest this without being labelled a "big evil transphobic conservative bigot" was one of the big ones. Nobody really gives a shit about womens' sports and all that, but seeing transwomen being allowed to compete alongside natal women really bothered me, it seems to be an erasure of literal fact. As much as people hate to acknowledge it, men just have a natural physical advantage after being exposed to a testosterone-based puberty; their limbs will be thicker and longer, their pelvises are narrower, allowing for more efficient running, and they tend to have greater muscle mass and grip strength, to name a few advantages. None of this erased by going on estrogen and demolishing testosterone levels. You can be a transwoman, sure, but you will never be a true and honest woman, and that's alright. Live as you will, chase that happiness, but stop lying to yourself.

As others have said, I also fucking loathe the way that the sex reassignment surgery is advertised today, it's a dangerous and ineffective procedure, and it's being presented as a way for a male to get a fully functioning vagina, which it simply does not do. I wouldn't mind so much if people were fully informed of the real outcome of the procedure, play stupid games, win stupid prizes as they say, but this is just preying upon very vulnerable and mentally tortured people. That's fucked up, and I should be allowed to speak about this without being accused of being a tranny hater.

I moved to America for a reason, as much as some things are fucked here, you yankees do a good job at personal liberty and free speech, which I admire and appreciate. Having all nuance removed from conversation and being entirely unable to discuss the tranny topic unless you're fellating tranny cock, feels like an infringement upon my free speech. Trannies should either be entirely removed from political discourse and left to leave their weird, pitiable lives, or opened to full discussion so that this whole business can be discussed in a proper manner. Obviously, with the way that things are going, both outcomes are unlikely to ever happen.

I'd have a whole lot less of an issue with all of those cunts if they'd just shut up and move on, stop relying on outside validation of their pronouns or whatever the fuck, stop preying on vulnerable people who are incapable of consenting to permanent and dangerous body modifications (the mentally ill, traumatised, and our youth), and got the fuck out of spaces not meant for them.

Also, fuck AGPs, creepy fucking cunts. Whatever happened to keeping that shit in the bedroom?

TL;DR: I disagree with the tranny movement because they groom vulnerable populations, silence all political discussion and remove all nuance, falsely advertise dangerous and stupid procedures, and invade spaces (women's shelters, lesbian social circles, sports) not meant for them.

 

[Cuck Shack]

I always thought troons were gross but paid little attention to them until the media kept shoving them front and center. Then I couldn't help but notice the "It's ma'am!" behavior. In short, trans activism made me 100x more "transphobic."

 

[Trash Puppet]

When I learned about autogynephilia and xenogenders

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

As far as I'm concerned, everything that could be said about trannies was already said. I also don't have any sob story of my own on how much I or someone I know was emotionally abused by them, I'm pretty much a repellant and hell I'm even repelled by some of the shit trannies say, so it kinda goes both ways.

Short Version:
Trannies are predators and groomers, sometimes in the sexual contest, sometimes in the context of recruiting people into becoming transgender. Almost all trannies are awful, so I view them with my prejudice goggles, I assume all trannies I come across are mentally ill until proven otherwise. Trannies got mad at me online and stuff like that, as I result I got banned from some communities. Finally, I hit peak trans when the SaveJames campaign thingy happened several years ago.

Spoiler: Long Version

Though, there are still several reasons why I hit peak trans. Firstly, I just want to say that all the entitled feminists talking about mysoginy from trannies aren't seeing the full picture. Whilst they do prey on lesbians and women in general as they fetishize them, I have not heard anything in this thread about gay men and effeminate men (Or effeminate naive kids most frequently) who are also preyed upon by trannies, though not in the same way. Instead of wanting to rape them like they do for lesbians, they try to convince them to join the cult and become a tranny. As many have said they were either gaslit to become trans or a relative was gaslit to become trans and it's generally easier with people who are autistic, depressed or actual druggies as they don't have the mental skills needed to fight back, they lack any assertiveness and lean toward naivety. This is why the 'LGB' exists, everyone in those circles are tired of those freakish ghouls targeting them and getting the spotlight all for themselves.

I regard people individually, rarely as a collective, so I have no aversion toward people generally speaking. I don't think all black people are obnorxious or gangsters which surprisingly so many people here do think that way even though there are many black people that I do like (Just look at twomad and Etika and then tell me you legit hate them).
There are only 3 groups I treat as a collective hivemind that needs to be called out whenever possible: Furries, Social Justice Warriors and, of course, Trannies, and I treat them each as their own collective since they either sympathize with the "bad apples" (Furfags tend to be cool with Zoophiles and sexual freaks until it blows right at their faces, they also tend to be trannies or SJWs themselves as a bonus), or the amount of apples that aren't spoiled are almost nonexistent (Many have said they have never seen a transwoman who isn't completely fucked up in the head. I have only seen one who's cool, Blaire White, yes she is the only transwoman who isn't a "bad apple". Let's not even talk about SJWs). Furries and SJWs are an aside here since we're talking about trannies, but this is why whenever I see one I will immediately come to the conclusion that he or she is insane without even knowing the person.
One more thing is that I HATE, not even hate fucking LOATHE Communism and Socialism and for whatever reason all trannies are always into this, so I would hate trannies by proxy just because they chose to follow the most inefficient economical system in the world that cauged without fault starvation and totalitarianism each time it was tried.

I also had anecdotal interactions with them that made me hate them even more. On Youtube, I had one one comment on a shitload of my videos insulting me because clearly the manchild was mad. On Twitter, I saw some real stupid shit being said by them, so I would angrily reply and get blocked or mocked. On Reddit (Yes fucking Reddit), I reposted a dox that someone else posted about one of the tranny powermods grooming and then force-feeding HRT to a minor. And then, out of nowhere, I get banned from r/drama because that same tranny moderates this subreddit. I should've known sooner this subreddit is cancer along all of Reddit, too bad it took me this long to realise and I opted to talk about it on the Reddit thread, but it would've come out of nowhere and was off-topic. This isn't the first time I got under a tranny's skin on Reddit, I got banned from a few more subreddits by angry power hungry trannies for a whole set of different reasons from wrong opinions to suffixing a word with "-fag". That made me stop using Reddit entirely, it's a fucking cesspool and I doubt it will ever be as good as it was in the early 2010's. All this sounds petty and MATI and it prolly is, but that's why I dislike them even more than I previously did.

What really did made me jump the gun, the big fucking red pill as one would say, was the SaveJames campaign. To simplify it, a kid named James played with girl toys so his mum assumed he was a girl and started calling him "Luna" (Shit name BTW, it sounds like something I'd come up with for my DnD mage) the dad wasn't happy about it, so there was lawsuits thrown back and forth. The dad almost lost the custody of his son over this shit.

 

[Sandraker]

Got a coworker that I talk to that always end up giving TMI when we have conversations even when customers are around, but she or "they" consider themselves trans. Most coworkers don't care for her much cause of her mouthy attitude and we both bicker tho I find her alright since we share the same internet culture backgrounds oddly enough.

One day I asked her about the background of some troonish acts and the main point I got to is "why are troons so openly sexual?" She ended up explaining most of it being repressed sexual urge and something about these people being hyper sexual. Only thing I could take away from that is that most of it is a deep seeded fetish that society continues to nurture.

Honestly I feel bad for her since she's a very open book and clearly a damaged bitch since she talks about daddy issues and hating most (Greek specifically) men, but she's in the wrong environment considering she's just an art student at my local snobby College and a stunning amount of people who go there end up turning to these type of people.

Really I haven't hit peak yet, but one particular moment with an online trans friend I had really irked me. Its when I was having a rough time mentally and would have liked some support at the time, but being like any troon it had to be about them so they kept pushing me to see their new hrt tits which I didn't really want to see, but they wouldn't leave me alone otherwise so they excitedly sent those nasty mosquito bite "tits" and I was silently shook.

I just can't stand the selfishness that comes with being a standard troon. Makes me feel like I was only talked to to reassure that they are a real "cute poly girl uwu" rather than having a friend.

 

[supremeautismo]

Permanently Peaked (there was a Daily Mail article but couldn’t find it again.)

14 year old girl ass raped in high school and another assaulted, “boy in a skirt.” The school forced the father out for protesting and he was pinned to the ground and arrested, mouth bleeding, after a woman on the school board accused the teen girl of lying. (But believe all women, I guess.)

Never before has the phrase “fuck trannies” come into my head and I’ve never hated them more.

The trans person I mentioned further upthread hasn’t spoke to me in months but isn’t hostile, still reaches out occassionally. He and his wife don’t post about each other online but that doesn’t mean anything necessarily. Just as he transed out, more opportunities fell into his life. Funny how that works.

I have trans friends I’m close to and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to not mourn the body they’re ruining, and makes me think of all these predators that (in my opinion) are most of the “movement.” It’s hard to keep your mouth shut when anything pointing to child grooming is uno-reversed back to you.

I guess they’re “one of the good ones.” But I’m no longer an ally. Drop the “T,” they’re the faggots you’re looking for.