Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Naes]

The rape threats always get me. They are the most creepy and unsettling to me. Trans women sending rape threats….. I hope this doesn’t come across as sexist. But rape threats are just so fucking….. male oriented. Of course women can rape. But like you said. It’s highly unusual for women to threaten a rape. It’s just so fucking creepy and shows how male oriented their mind is even if they are wearing a dress.

Remember, there is nothing sexual about rape. It is all about control and overpowering the victim.

 

[Mr Processor]

When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.​

Prior to social media I didn't think about trans people at all unless they had a "trans" character in a movie (mostly drag queens in that case) or in a book (Batman: Gothic or Doom Patrol, DC has been pozzed for a while). Even in those cases, I would make a note of it in my mind and then promptly forget about them. Eventually, I started using social media more regularly. Then I ran into trans people on social media. Then I realized, "Wow, these people are creepy, mentally ill weirdos." That was really all it took, and that came before the big pro-trans push by the media and the government. (Also, I always realized that it isn't possible to turn a person born male into a woman through surgery, or a woman into a man, because I know a little about medical science and human biology.)

 

[Shmuel "Sam" Coinsniffer]

Around 2011-2012, lurking Tumblr queer blogs for laughs and somewhat following the tranny lolcows ADF and Rika on 789chan. Never would I have predicted this shit ever became mainstream. Slippery slope is real.

 

[Cyanide]

I started off being open to whatever, if it doesn't harm anyone, I didn't care. Over time I noticed all trans, pre and post, had a bit of crazy in them, the very few good ones I've met weren't trying to be loud or obnoxious, just wanted to be accepted so they put in the effort to look the gender role. The rest of them I met are quite insane though. Some of the most petty and jealous people I know. I can be friends with the few good ones I mentioned, never date/marry.

The last mtf person that flirted with me (met online in an mmo/they live states away) only wanted to marry me to have their baby. In my casual friend group, they found out I was single, wanted to be a parent but also lgbt friendly. At first I thought they were just overexcited with the spam of messages and calls, I politely asked them to ease up, twice, then they switched to interrupting my streams and calling very late at night. They didn't want to know much about me, getting to know them means they talk, I listen. Got into a fight on stream with them, the topic of the fight wasn't even important, it was when they decided that anything I said wrong immediately. (it was just an opinion about a mmo) They got mad when I wouldn't agree with them, started to be condescending on stream, then they said I could talk to them again when I stopped acting like a child, so I kicked them off the stream and everywhere else they might contact me, forgot the phone though...

The last time I heard from that creepo, I ignored the text they sent me, some lovely dovely goodnight-I'll see you tomorrow message. Mind you, I barely knew them for a month.

The baby thing was creepy at that time, I just had that feeling something felt off, I was still native to think they were sad about not being able to birth a baby, then I remembered I had a kiwi account and thank God Null I got away from that mess.

tl;dr - mtf was an obsessive creepy self-centered perv that wanted to move me states away to marry me to make a baby for them, not happening.

 

[Procrastinhater]

It's just a delusion, no different to a guy who thinks he's Napoleon, now if you want to prescribe the crazy fuck a Bi corn Hat and a Saber whatever, but don't think you can push for legal reprisals for people who refuse to call him "L'Emperor" and expect no pushback.

 

[ShitInMyMouth]

I'm pretty liberal and was at university just around the time they added the T to LBG and I remember that not making sense, but since I'm not part of that group I ignored it as what right do I have to tell them what to do?

I fell for the "they just want to live their authentic life" thing. I mean, why shouldn't they be able to take a shit in the ladies rooms toilet?

Then I started coming across them in my geeky spaces. At first I felt sorry and amused by these young autistic gay men with terrible make up in horrendous dresses, but live and let live eh?

Then I noticed how weird they were with their women cosplaying, They were reinforcing EVERY negative stereotype about women possible. I'm going to sound like a cuck, but you can't join the woman club and then try and undo 20,000 years of progress towards equality by acting like a retard. It nauseated me.

By then I realised I couldn't speak out as these fuckers go after your employer and will hound you to until you self-delete in Minecraft. They are old school /b/tard demented.

The final part of my radicalisation was this glorious website when I found the troon threads. The AGPs were the peak of the mountain for me. I now understood that the majority of these twats were actually just dangers to to women and not only that but they were being enabled by all levels of government and by large corporations.

Somehow the Western world has been brought to its knees by perverted men in dresses just because we were all to polite to say "no." Their success is down to our moral cowardice and that is what irks me the most.

I now come across genderspecial in a professional capacity and they are fucking terrifying. One wrong word, even just a slight raise of an eyebrow that shows I'm not really playing their game and my career is over. No amount of rainbow lanyards will save me.

The tide seems to be turning. My normie friends are starting to say this shit is weird and wrong. My liberal mate's will secretly joke about troons to me. A lot of "they/them" are starting to disappear from bios.

Hope lies with the normies.

TL;DR: YWNBAW. Fuck Keffals.

 

[Dread First]

2019 when Yaniv's gag order was lifted and suddenly he was free game to talk about.

Some LGBTQ+ Facebook groups that I used to skulk about in were talking about Yaniv's topless pool party, his disgusting chat messages involving underage menstruation, among other such things. Unfortunately, those people wound up getting banned from said groups and even postblocked by Facebook directly for even talking about Yaniv's bullshit. What made this whole ordeal even more frustrating was this ill-handled debate over whether or not Yaniv is a true & honest trans woman. The initial instinct was to say "no, he's a troll and has nothing to do with trans women." But then we had AGP retards saying "no, you can't dismiss her gender identity! She's a horrible person but she's still trans!" You can only imagine how well that went.

That was basically the straw that broke the camel's back for me in terms of "peak trans," but I would also argue that I was never truly a "trans ally" in the first place.

1) My area of study in college was linguistics. I can't pretend like I'm some authority on the subject, but I can't tell you how many times I've gotten into arguments with absolute fucking mouth-breathing retards who assume that their special pronouns will just magically transfer over to another language. Spoiler alert to all nonbinary/tranny genderspecials who may or may not be reading this: in heavily gendered languages (i.e. Arabic, Hindi, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian, etc), the neutral gender is always masculine, so don't fucking expect your bullshit xie/xir/they/them bullshit to translate to anything meaningful in the languages you intend to ruin with your lunacy. Also, I may refer to you as an "عورت" ("aurat" - Urdu = woman) but that damn sure won't stop others from calling you as they see you: an "آدمی" ("aadmi" - Urdu = man).

2) I always found it pretty fucking disgusting how trans women (and even trans men at some points) would simply play up bimbo "aesthetic" and degenerate sexual behaviour as "peak femininity." I'm not going to pretend like I'm a feminist ally because I'm a cis male and I find the idea of being an "ally" to an entire gender of humanity fucking retarded. With that said, I'm pretty fucking sure that there's more to being a woman than simply being a degenerate sexual orifice. Isn't that the fucking reason why so many NGOs go through great lengths to make sure underprivileged cis women and girls get access to education, literacy, healthcare, and the like so that they won't have to act as another person's "am hole?"

3) The fact that no tranny to this day can come up with a good argument against puberty blockers causing osteoporosis shows just how far they're willing to go to groom more kids. Admittedly, this is only something I found out about recently but I always found it pretty fucking suspect that puberty blockers can just be magically "undone" by not taking them like the trannies always talked about.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I now come across genderspecial in a professional capacity and they are fucking terrifying. One wrong word, even just a slight raise of an eyebrow that shows I'm not really playing their game and my career is over. No amount of rainbow lanyards will save me.

This 100%. It's not quite that bad at my workplace, but I can't tell which direction things are going and I've seen what happens in more cerebral settings when your previous statements are used against you. HR has pronouns in signature; everyone else is just trying to keep the lights on, but you don't want the eye of the panopticon on you.

The tide seems to be turning. My normie friends are starting to say this shit is weird and wrong. My liberal mate's will secretly joke about troons to me. A lot of "they/them" are starting to disappear from bios.

Hope lies with the normies.

Also this. Normies don't live on the Internet so they're five steps behind all the craziness, and most of them start off from just wanting to be civil and expecting the same.

Don't start with the crazymaking bottom of the iceberg, just gently help get them up to speed. I helped a sweet grandma coworker peak with "an untreated Cluster B slapped the trans bandaid over it, so now everything is our responsibility? Nooo, you don't say," and that's my bullet in the culture war.

 

[mental illness innit luv]

I first grappled with the concept of transgenderism on Tumblr circa 2014. "Well, if they're not hurting anyone, where's the harm?" I thought, and continued my life without giving it a second thought. When I ran into genderspecials not long later, I thought this was strange, but again, I remained pretty respectful of it even if the very idea of singular they/them pronouns baffled me. I could just about accept stuff like genderfluid or agender, but the insanity of stargender/galaxygender/toiletgender had me scoffing and shaking my head even then. If only I knew how bad things really were.

The first trans person I ever met (let's call them G), I only knew online through occasional Skype chats and group voice calls. We met through a mutual friend in 2015 but never bonded and never spoke one on one. G seemed pretty normal, all things considered. He fit in and I didn't get any weird vibes. G sounded like a cis male, went by a male name, everyone used he/him to refer to G, and I never saw his face, so I had no idea he was trans until 2 years later when he had a messy falling out with our mutual friend. Apparently, our mutual friend had exposed the secret that G was trans. Whether this was accidentally or purposefully, I don't know as I only heard about it second-hand. In response to this, G went ballistic, acting as though our mutual friend had committed war crimes. G ended their friendship, deleted all the videos they'd made together, and became aggressive toward and hurled slurs at everyone involved with our mutual friend from then. That was when "woah, maybe this trans stuff isn't as innocent as I thought" first crossed my mind.

That thought wouldn't intensify until I moved out of my hometown to the suburbs of a much larger city. I hadn't an inkling of how LGBTABCD-infested the city centre was until I started socialising with the people there. Within a few months, two girls I knew trooned out one immediately after the other. One became an FtM and the other a they/them "genderfluid". The FtM in particular is a real piece of work. She wears skirts and heavy feminine makeup and loves to show off her cleavage all while insisting she's a real boy. The most masculine thing about her is her short hair. Right now, she's pregnant and planning on raising it herself with the help of her mother. Doesn't sound very masculine to me. Observing her and the other girl prancing about day after day affecting he/they pronouns while being so undeniably feminine in every way possible finally made me realise that this shit is nothing more than delusion. That thought solidified when I read up on just how badly HRT and SRS mutilate the body, and about how many people regret having the surgery and end up killing themselves afterwards. It's glorified medical negligence and I believe it should be outlawed.

I'm seeing more and more young adults fall victim to this trans cult, and they all fit into at least one of these two categories: prior mental health issues (especially cutting and/or disordered eating), or sex pest/fetishist. Luckily, only one troon that I know (FtM) has yet had the balls to start HRT. Most of them change absolutely nothing about themselves other than their name, hair colour, and pronouns yet expect everyone to bend over backwards to please them. If you make a mistake with their pronouns or their name, they explode and brand you a bigot. Exhausting.

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

This 100%. It's not quite that bad at my workplace, but I can't tell which direction things are going and I've seen what happens in more cerebral settings when your previous statements are used against you. HR has pronouns in signature; everyone else is just trying to keep the lights on, but you don't want the eye of the panopticon on you.

Also this. Normies don't live on the Internet so they're five steps behind all the craziness, and most of them start off from just wanting to be civil and expecting the same.

Don't start with the crazymaking bottom of the iceberg, just gently help get them up to speed. I helped a sweet grandma coworker peak with "an untreated Cluster B slapped the trans bandaid over it, so now everything is our responsibility? Nooo, you don't say," and that's my bullet in the culture war.

I used to work in public sector capacity but got out just before the storm hit that field hard, but I know from experience how this kind of shit would be an absolute boon for HR types both private and public. Since HR is there to protect the the place of employment and not the workers, it should be obvious why so many big organizations adopted gendergoblinry so rapidly. More reasons to internally police behavior and divide workers.

I too have noticed the start of a turn. I hope people just get fucking tired of culture war extremism as a concept on the whole considering I didnt like the pre-woke right wing version of either. But I am happy to see many people who aren't just the right wingers you expect but more people like me having their fill of endless shrieking. Its getting so obvious that genderspecials are basically what if militant vegans took over public space and had the power to force their diets on everyone that people are really starting to wake up to the fact that its a powerplay by the socially outcast, narcissists, and mentally deranged in order to get everyone else to dance around their whims and bend over backwards to please them.

This is the key difference between them and other social rights movements. Those past movements could articulate what they wanted to see. There were clearly set victory conditions. With the trans cause its just endlessly shifting and increasingly onerous goal posts. "We just want rights" became "We just want to pee" became "HR better mandate pronoun name tags and email signatures" to "I will have you fired and accidentally slip up and use my deadname even if its a week after transitioning." The game is specifically designed so that no one can win but the genderspecial, who by making everyone else play becomes the center of the universe. As more and more people are exposed to this behavior it will lead to a backlash.

 

[Crunk Sneedler]

I peaked about two days into the Farms being down. Some cucked web tech site was already dancing on our grave. Further proof of what handing the world off to lib zoomers actually means. Because I remember a time when internet tech people would have been appalled at the prospect of censorship of legal material from the entire global public web. And they would have claimed at least that the contents didn't matter because "free speech means speech I disagree with." Tech people used to be libertarian. Now they have to be woke because troons sit next to them at the office and they organise, organise, organise! More than even real women ever did. Where was I... Well I normally lurk the farms when I want to laugh, unless there's some massive drama happening. The idea of a site not being able to exist ANYWHERE on the planet-wide public internet, as if the globe itself is not big enough for both of us (us, and the eunuchs) is too much for me. I'm pretty set in my ways (RRREEEEEEE actionary) and I insist the World Wide Web is large enough to accommodate more than one type of discourse. Also, I'm not about to submit to humorless people. I spent those two days getting up to speed on the happenings.

Now, up until a week ago, I maintained a live and let live attitude towards troons. Even though I was a bit annoyed at them showing up all over online and being bossy and smug stunning and brave. I more or less deleted TikTok not specifically because of the mtfs, but because of all the genderspecials as a whole - although I admit that was them doing me a big favor. I stopped Tweeting years ago for fear of ever getting into it. Because I have a policy of not saying sorry unless I really am. Still, I haven't had any trans people in my life in over a decade (and that generation did not go around "being trans" as their main thing) so I thought, well, I don't know what it's like for them, so I hope they do whatever helps them not be miserable. Also, I had heard about this "grooming" thing but without looking into it, I figured it was a conservative meme. Again, my life is not affected by any of this shit.

But the DIY hormones for kids, puberty blockers, srs for minors, and the final straw - gloating about how many kids they recruit - finally hit a nerve with me. I started to think, hey maybe there is something to this grooming thing. Jesus said that if anyone misleads a child, it would have been better for them if they tied a millstone around their own neck and threw themselves into the sea. That is some really specific imagery. He put some thought into that. The original "Kill yourself" straight from our Lord's mouth - Know Your Christian Meme. Well I'm in agreement with HeyZeus on this point, at least. Hey! Weirdos! Leave them kids alone.

These events basically shoved me even further toward the based end of the spectrum than previous gender shenanigans already had. I still don't hate troons. But they're a tiny fraction of the population, and somehow they're shoving the whole world around right now (well, the US and friends, anyway) and that is just weird. Like, that can't be good for anyone, including them. They're demanding to receive what medical treatment they themselves insist on, and then they insist everyone must "affirm" what they say with kids, too? I just want the doctors to do their jobs and find a better solution to dysphoria, because I no longer believe srs is it. Invading real women's spaces is very bad, but crippling kids for life is a fridge too far.

Finally, big tech is on a fast track to become the omniscient, omnipresent, algorithmic, minority-report enforcers of the entire - the entire - internet. They want there to be no place to go that isn't locked down and sanitized by them and whoever is driving their apparatus at the time.

 

[The Old Road]

I've been very neutral with trans people, specially comparing myself to many on this site. You want to cut your fucking dick off, sure, stay away from convincing children of the same and we'll get along fine. Keffals using their victim status as a way to con money from the retarded and manipulate tech companies to falling in line or be harassed is trying the crux of my patience. Cloudflare gave in after that retarded hog went after one of their deceased workers, who is supposed to be the same minority that Keffals is trying to protect.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Finally, big tech is on a fast track to become the omniscient, omnipresent, algorithmic, minority-report enforcers of the entire - the entire - internet. They want there to be no place to go that isn't locked down and sanitized by them and whoever is driving their apparatus at the time.

Yes. The TroonStapo suddenly taking over the internet around July 1 2020 was the end for me. Up until that time, I didn't give them any thought, and thought it was a little "crazy" how some people insisted their movement had a dangerous edge to it. I was also unaware of how much effort was being put into trooning out children.

Then July 1 2020 happened. It's like the ban hammer came down everywhere and the Troons were in charge.

There was a thread earlier today about how Biden and the major US intelligence agencies, combining with big tech companies, NGOs, social media platforms were all colluding to eliminate any criticism of Covid online. I'm 100% convinced there are a LOT of topics they wish to censor and ban all discussion about online.

It's clear to me there is a coordinated effort for them to dismantle all free speech in written communication and in all media around the world. Taking over the digital world in this way is equivalent to burning all books, breaking all pens and pencils, dismantling all printing presses, smashing all typewriters, wrecking all printers.

It's evil.

 

[Personal Jesus]

Now. I never liked them much but after today there's no way I'll ever support a tranny. I can only hope that statistic keeps going up.

 

[Rosy Reptile]

I'll tell you exactly when. Purple Tinker. Founder of Bronycon. 2012. Everyone here knows that the higher the autism concentration in your space, the faster you're going to be confronted with the reality of these people. For that reason, /mlp/ (I will not apologize for appreciating its board culture at the time; top tier memes) got wise to them faster arguably than any other board on 4chan. In 2012, Purple Tinker threw his weight around to get an episode of a cartoon censored, and used all the same plays we're all familiar with now to do so.

That was my (and many people's) first impression of "trans people", and in 10 years that impression has only been confirmed time and time again. They're malignant parasites on autistic communities. You should see what they did to the tulpa and hypnosis threads. Discord servers with gaggles of them led by a self-proclaimed sorcerer.

There's an inherent duplicity and vanity to them, since they lie to themselves first and everyone else second. They have that duplicity in common with homosexual sexual submissives, and the former do seem in some sense to be an advanced form of the latter (at least where vanity is concerned).

I'm not being uncharitable to people who have those feelings. Plenty of people want to be something else for whatever reason, but the moment you go from "I want to be" to "I am", you're a liar. There's no way around it.

 

[T0oCoolFool]

I know I'm not the only one re-peaking with this #DropKiwiFarms bullshit. Fuck troons.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

When I was younger, I was a soft liberal (ie social liberal but not a socialist or anything edgy) - pro-gay, tolerant, etc etc. I barely ever considered trans people at all except in the context of part of the gay coalition. But I always assumed 'trans' = surgical sex change.

So fast forward to around 2005, way before the trans craze, I had a nutty ex-girlfriend who told me she had become involved w/ a trans person, and I was confused as hell. I thought she meant a FTM, but no, it was a MTF who essentially dressed in drag but still dated women (he was not an ugly dude, but more like a ContraPoints-like sexual degenerate). It was from that point forward I realized how fraudulent trans people were, they got their kicks from being exhibitionist.

 

[Zoobles]

the 2009 film "Boy Interrupted"

 

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

This morning when I woke up to see Cloudflare buckled to child molesting troons.

 

[DrNow]

The weird thing is, the most prominent figure discussed on this site should be considered a trans woman by the Troon squad, but no mention is ever made of Chris Chan.

Cloudflare made me realise tolerance is not enough, they really are engaged in a power struggle.