Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

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I think them "cutting it out" is how we wound up here in the first place.

I'm confused. If people stopped trooning out, if they stopped larping as the opposite sex or something in between, if we actually found a proper treatment for gender dysphoria, we'd get the opposite of what we've got right now. Wouldn't we?

Or maybe I'm just being autistic, and you were talking about "cutting out genitals."
 
1. seeing grown (trans identified) males online tell teen girls to kill themselves for having different opinions, and watching the majority of trans identified men I knew online be outed for being abusive, pedos, or rapists
2. witnessing asexual discourse, especially the "split attraction model." hearing people say the most retarded shit about being a "biromantic heterosexual" had me realize that queer theory and therefore transgenderism are not on solid ground as a belief
3. trying to look into the stats about violence toward trans women and realizing that they are totally made up propaganda. a white tranny is LESS likely to be a victim of violence than an average woman. the only type of trans that is in danger is basically just prostitutes
 
I think the last few years has turned me from "meh, live and let live, I cannot pretend to know God's will. I hope they get the peace they seek", to "these people are fucking sick, and it needs to be stopped. We are watching sick and evil people prey on the vulnerable in service of the almighty coom. It's disgusting and Godless. I hate it."
 
Huh, never posted how I got peaked with transgenderism.

I've always held the sex-gender distinction when I was exposed to Tumblrinas, that maybe a person's sense of self didn't align with their sex. I always grounded myself on what a trans person's sex actually was, as current medicine isn't able to completely rewrite someone's genetic makeup; SRS is at best cosmetic and HRT dangerous hormone alterations that can fuck up one's physiology a lot if not overseen by a doctor.

What peaked me was the one trans friend I had who committed suicide (out of respect I'll refer to her by her preferred gender, because that's how I first met and knew her). She was stubborn and autistic with quite a few co-morbidities (borderline, depression, etc.), and there were times I didn't want to hang out of her because of her behaviour (never sexpest behaviour; she was repulsed even hearing about it) when it came to entertaining controversial figures' thoughts like Jordan Peterson's.

After she took her own life (over 2 years after she had SRS), I came to the sobering realisation that chopping her dick off didn't solve her other issues. During the little memorial we had for her, I was angry by some of the things some of her other friends said; they took that time to proselytise and say that this is why trans (and non-binary) people needed to be seen and heard. Like bitch, can you not use your friend's death as a soapbox?
 
Mostly after a friend of my shitty ex (well, at the time he wasn't an ex) trooned out and changed overnight. He went from a cool, kind of attractive guy to a creepy pervert who had like every fetish, talked in a weird gay guy voice, violated boundaries, and snapped at me (and others) for no reason. I saw him lecturing a woman about pronouns on Facebook and that kind of shattered the illusion for me. Some nice TERF on Reddit had once suggested to a throwaway of mine to check out /r/gendercritical (back when it was still up), so I did and that was basically the beginning of my whole journey.
 
Ages ago I got banned from r/feminism after having a short and unremarkable argument with some dude. When I received the ban notice I was so confused so I reached out to the mod politely to find out what was up - I was pretty sure I was on message for the sub, but maybe they had misread my sarcasm or the tiny bit of ground I gave to the dude I was arguing with (I like olive branches, what can I say). The mod response was that there would be no further discussion and any attempt on my part to continue my inquiry would result in a ban of my account. So long ago I cannot remember anything, but I do know it was not about tranny shit.

You know what was about tranny shit? Well, I was genuinely asking the now forbidden questions on twox. I recall a conversation where I and another user were asking what was the difference between us, tomboys in our own childhood, and women who identified as males. Most innocent of questions; at the time I really wanted to be nice and make sure I understood the difference so I could *barf* be kind. I got told to "listen to trans people" and join r/traaaaaaaaans, and that we were being assholes. It's funny how getting banned from a different forum for a days old comment happened right when I made a tranny uncomfortable (even if accidentally) on another sub. It's a little paranoid, because why wouldn't I just get banned from twox, but I now realize the mods on reddit are retards thinking they are playing 5-dimensional chess.

Still not peaked, I suffered the tenth "Squee first braaaaaaaaaa" post showing up in my feed and unsubbed from traaaaaaaans. What a bunch of creepy retards.

Some other things happened with regards to people I know in real life, but by then I was already seeing clearly.

There should be a word for something beyond peaking. I've been "peaked" for five years, but it's only this last year where I ain't even scared anymore to call out how stupid this shit is. There should be a word for that ha ha.
 
When they started to go after kids and teach very sexual subject matter in school. The most personal to me is when they accused anyone who didn't want to fuck them as transphobes. I do feel very bad for the LGB part of the community since they are associated with the T's. I can see why some members of said community are leaving and acceptance among LGBT has lowered a lot.
 
It was a long process with no definet turning point but I would say I had few key moments that kinda worked on the background. Now I still think that gender dysphoria is a real condition and people suffering from it might need help but I no longer think that transitioning should be it in any circumstances.

I probably would want to establish my most positive interpretation of trans issues. In one point when I was in my early twenties I saw gay rights as the right side of history movement of my life time. I wasn't an activist or anything but I did fully support gay marriage and thought that homosexuals deserved open acceptance on all fronts. If you didn't agree you had to be a bigoted old timer, not evil but definitely completely wrong. The trans wasn't something I was intrested in but I had noting against men who wanted to pretend to be women to be happy if they were like gays as I was being told. Gender dysphoria does sound awful and if playing pretend helps why not? I didn't think you could actually change genders but hey live and let live. I think I more tried to accept trans than actually accept it because it was the right thing to do and it was new and exotic. Even at the time I could never make myself completely buy the trans narrative because I had two experiences that kept nagging at me despite social pressure to accept trans without questioning in the art circles I was in.

When I was between 11 and 13 I had about year and half long period when I didn't want be a girl pretty desperately. I didn't exactly want be a boy as much I didn't want be me and a boy seemed like the only other option. I had issues with bullying and bad social standing plus just the general puberty. Boyhood just looked much easier and maybe I could have been something better than this looser chick. I was very jealous of many way boys had easier. That time I hadn't heard about transitioning so I just wished it silently. I didn't bother to tell anyone because it was just a stupid idea, I was just stupid. Then one day I had a lightbulb moment when I thought: "There are sucky sides being a female and sucky sides being a male. I have what I have in my pants and that ain't changing so maybe I should just get comfortable with it." I know it wasn't really that sudden, more of a long build up of little things that just clicked at that time, but afterwards I just didn't feel bad being a girl. I still didn't like all aspects of being girl but I didn't feel jealous or sorry about it anymore. I found ways to deal with or reject stuff I didn't care for and I had much more compassion to guys and their issues.

Next was when I was about 15 my friend came out as a FtM transgender. I wasn't exactly supportive but I don't think I ever told her that. She was moving to a new town at time and I never actually witnessed the transitioning, so I kinda managed not talk about it but I do remember doubting the whole thing. I knew her from childhood even if we weren't close back then and she wasn't a tomboy or a girly girl, just a pretty average artsy girl. I didn't know details but her family was messed up and she had multiple serious mental health problems. I didn't know much about trans people at time but with her history I just didn't believe this was her problem. I had projected my mostly unrelated issue to gender and she had more reasons than me to do the same. She had also chosen a wierd name with like a super deep meaning that also got my suspicions up. We kinda rifted appart with the moving and awkwardness so that was the end of that,

Lastly I was in a new art school and was getting fed up with LGBTQ activism. The gay marriage controversy was well over and done with as far as I was concerned but not in art circles. Good guys won and the alphabet people can live in peace openly so who cares if some people hold ideas we don't like? Live and let live goes towards them too. Plus all the PC stuff was getting ridiculous and repetitive in entertainment and I started to watch YouTube videos that made fun of that. Some video or comment made me avare of KiwiFarms and then over the years this site has affected me. I knew grifters and pervs were involved and I knew getting rid of medical oversight would embolden them but not the details or awfulness. KiwiFarms definitely soured my opinion of trans but not by itself at all.
 
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When they started to go after kids and teach very sexual subject matter in school. The most personal to me is when they accused anyone who didn't want to fuck them as transphobes. I do feel very bad for the LGB part of the community since they are associated with the T's. I can see why some members of said community are leaving and acceptance among LGBT has lowered a lot.
Don't feel bad. The LGB diddle children.
 
Just when you thought you couldn't peak any harder...

So I play this online game, basically a fantasy life sim. Call me a faggot if you want.

Anyway, as always happens in games like this it amassed a super woke(primarily female) crowd. This game has a competitor that is being accused of "not supporting trans" because it has it so you can switch your character's sex if you want via magic. Apparently that's not "being trans" because "you don't get to come out as trans".

You're also starting to see more and more creeping "I'm specialer" with people going hardcore into being 'intersex', affirming my long held suspicion that all of this is just people competing for attention. The surge of 'lesbian' and 'bisexuals' in the past was probably the last iteration of this speshulness race.
 
I recently was forced to interact with a group of troons in real life since my girlfriend's best friend is a massive genderspecial shitlib who started dating an mtf troon and he brought an entire degenerate polycule of MTFs with him. They were all obviously autistic failed men on varying degrees of HRT who groomed each other into trooning out and came from across the South and the Midwest to live together in California (the one thing I'll give them credit for), and were all otherwise nerdy losers as men who went prison gay for each other until they jumped at the chance of bringing in a 'lesbian' who was an actual woman and actually humored them for some godforsaken reason. What stood out to me the most was how they were constantly giving each other validating comments and sickening levels of PDA, it was genuinely cult like behavior that was just embarrassing to watch and humiliating to be publicly associated with, it was like watching a discord server in real life. I certainly didn't have positive or even neutral views of troons before so I wouldn't call it a peaking moment but this basically confirmed every negative stereotype I had held about them and I'm certainly not any better off actually meeting some.
 
This game has a competitor that is being accused of "not supporting trans" because it has it so you can switch your character's sex if you want via magic. Apparently that's not "being trans" because "you don't get to come out as trans".

That was a part of my peaking. I first encountered the tranny character in Siege of Dragonspear, and have since encountered several others in fantasy settings.

You'd think it'd the perfect escape. You can mirror your own self-described "journey", swap to the opposite sex with a snap of the fingers and voila! All of the issues you have with no magic or Star Trek level medical tech to fulfill your real life desire would come true.

But it's NEVER like that. Being a troon, reveling in the attention, telling the story of the whole process of buying that 20 gold scroll of Titty Skittles and describing the ~☆euphoria☆~ is always the defining character trait. Because the thought of changing sex is a fetish, and it's closely related to the flashing neon cluster B personality disorders they always seem to have.
 
Someone close to me started transitioning recently. Went from having a pretty bad body image but functional, to obsessively dissecting every part of their appearance and behavior in the mirror, sometimes hours at a time. Went from anxious and depressed but somewhat functional to starving themself, not being able to leave their house or even keep the curtains open for paranoia over being seen and clocked. Always waiting for a magic cure - first it was "when I get on hormones, everything will start getting better", then "when I find the correct dosage", "when I can buy a new set of clothes", "when my body finally changes", "when I get my surgery", ad infinitum. There's always a new thing to dream of that will make everything all roses and rainbows, all the while spiraling into an ever-more catastrophic mental breakdown.

It really is exactly like an eating disorder. It's fucking heartbreaking. I just want to shake them and say hey, nothing that you do will fix your self-hatred, this is all for nothing, you don't need a transition, you need serious psychiatric intervention, and the longer you go down this road the more psychological damage you're inflicting on yourself.

And I mean, a collection of lesser niggling frustrations. Like having the fact that taking estrogen can cause deep vein thrombosis explained to me, like thanks, I know. Having people talk about their boobs and show off their collection of skirts to me, as if I care. Listening to how women have long hair and wear swirly skirts and how you have to wear makeup to the grocery store, myself having short hair and wearing makeup once a month, and wanting to scream where the fuck are you getting this from, what the hell am I to you. And PhilosophyTube... just, all of PhilosophyTube.

And I mean for a while I felt super bad because those aren't the Right Thoughts and I was being an ~*evil TERF*~... But then I realized that even though I'd always thought that people saying those things were hateful, they weren't necessarily, and often they're just maligned because they make men feel bad. (I know a lot of people here despise trans people, but I genuinely don't have any kind of hatred towards them. I have a lot of anger and frustration at the culture around transness, but not trans individuals or even the general idea of transitioning.) And once I got over that hump of categorically rejecting truthful thoughts because I was scared they made me hateful, it just was a lot easier to think about things logically and clearly.
 
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