Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

myshkin said:
I then read Ray Blanchard's “The classification and labeling of nonhomosexual gender dysphorias” and am halfway through Bailey's "The Man Who Would Be Queen." Knowing about Blanchard's classification really made me perceive trans people differently. I can't really go back now.
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This. The gateway though was the discussion on ovarit; I forget how I came across that site but like this place is a daily read.

For some reason; the writing on ovarit is clear on pushing back on the trans bullshit. State sponsored bullshit locally.

I often think there should be early intervention on treating agp; but unfortunately this would probably be considered conversion therapy, which is criminal.
 
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The moment two people I considered friends had meltdowns over tranny jokes and cut contact with me because "I'm an alt-right cunt" and "hateful" (despite previously making fun of literally fucking everything and everyone), only to cut their own dicks in the following months.
Afterward, I started to pay more attention to everything troons do and realized how fucking awful they are: From wanting to normalize practices like grooming children to wanting to rewrite history by making everything trans.
The future looks dark but I rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
 
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When I was younger I thought it was just people living their lives. Now after hearing the constant stories of grooming, axe wounds, surgery regret, censorship, political manipulation, and generally being gross; I think the world would be better with all LGBT shit in a wood chipper.
 
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BestUserName said:
For me it was the normalization of homophobia that I'd hope had gone out of style a generation ago, all in the name of "tolerance", and by the superficial "left".
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Thats what communism/political correctness is. It's Tyranny disguised as manners. Manners is knowing that they have an opinion and that has fuck all to do with you. Not bending to their whim.
 
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Always thought there was only two genders, but I always considered troons just an other flavor of faggot. Then, I witnessed the lunacy of Trans Lifeline, which taught me that trannies are opportunistic grifter cunts. After that, the epic shitshow that is Jonathan Yaniv taught me that trannies are also creepy degenerate sex pests. Obviously there were other troon that popped up on my radar over the years (Cosmo, Chloe Sagal, Sophie LaBelle etc.) but these are the two main things that pushed me from indifference into clear dislike.
 
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10 years old. A boy once told me he wanted to be a girl. I asked why. He said he wanted to have long hair and wear a skirt. I said rockstars have long hair all the time a Scotsmen wear kilts. And this had nothing to with what a girl is anyway.

He wasn't convinced, and kept on, even had a new name for himself, till I told him when girls get older they bleed every month and it hurts a lot every time. Scared him off then.
 
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redcent said:
10 years old. A boy once told me he wanted to be a girl. I asked why. He said he wanted to have long hair and wear a skirt. I said rockstars have long hair all the time a Scotsmen wear kilts. And this had nothing to with what a girl is anyway.

He wasn't convinced, and kept on, even had a new name for himself, till I told him when girls get older they bleed every month and it hurts a lot every time. Scared him off then.
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He probably would have ended up normal like 90%+ of the kids who have some degree of dysphoria as a kid but I'd just go ahead and take credit for him not ending up a permanently retarded, mutilated cockless freak.
 
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redcent said:
10 years old. A boy once told me he wanted to be a girl. I asked why. He said he wanted to have long hair and wear a skirt. I said rockstars have long hair all the time a Scotsmen wear kilts. And this had nothing to with what a girl is anyway.

He wasn't convinced, and kept on, even had a new name for himself, till I told him when girls get older they bleed every month and it hurts a lot every time. Scared him off then.
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Didn't happen. Fuck off back to Reddit with that faggotry.
 
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ShitInMyMouth said:
Didn't happen. Fuck off back to Reddit with that faggotry.
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I admire this level of scrutiny lol

Wallace said:
What's the best way to gently convince someone that has been fed the gender Kool-Aid? I have a friend who claims that kids the age of two are able to know their gender identity and express it, and the only remedy is to affirm.
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Do they have kids themselves? Doesn't seem like something someone who's ever had a two-year old or spent any significant amount of time with one would say. There's no way to argue with the genderspecials, the best you can hope for is to jump start their brain with other logical inconsistencies NOT gender-related, and get their noggin joggin' on other issues. You might get lucky and help them develop critical thinking so that they someday test their ideas, but you have about a 30% chance. These are religious people without a church so they worship an ideology instead.

Get them to actually argue for a Round Earth(be a devil's advocate for flat earth, make them be able to prove the earth is round, which is trivial), point out real US government conspiracies, the conglomeration of web traffic, the family of the six major media companies/food companies, etc.
 
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Wallace said:
What's the best way to gently convince someone that has been fed the gender Kool-Aid? I have a friend who claims that kids the age of two are able to know their gender identity and express it, and the only remedy is to affirm.
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You can't convince anyone with debate or logic. Show them. Show them that Canadian teacher. Show them Jazz Jennings. Show them any of the 6,000,000 AGPs that get posted to the sideshows thread daily. Sometimes that's not enough, in which case you just have to hope they actually run into an average troon IRL and have to meaningfully interact with them.
 
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For me, it was actually pretty recently that I gave up the "live and let live" philosophy towards it. Even Jazz Jennings who I knew about as soon as he got his show barely budged me on that. I did question the morals of the parents a bit, but still figured it was on TLC, a channel known for showing weird extreme cases of any topic imaginable. It wasn't until maybe 2018 or 2019 when I noticed drag and trans kids, particularly Desmond the Amazing, with his psycho mother figuratively (and lilterally?) whoring him out while he's clearly exhausted or even drugged.
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I also want to add that recently, a LESBIAN dating app called "Her" banned actual lesbians for complaining about the male genderqueers and troons using the app, while equivalent services for gay men seem to have no problem with banning FTM manlets for having vaginas. Really makes you think.
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Where has this happened? Grindr and Scruff are full of FtM manlets in various stages of transition.
 
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I used to (like, quite, quite recently, maybe two years now) used to hang out in pretty lefty internet spaces, so I was pretty on board with the whole trans thing. Over time, the cognitive dissonance just got to be too much. First it was "trans medicalism" being this awful, wrong idea when every trans person I knew was clearly miserable. Then it was the idea that trans and non binary shit was somehow not dependent on sexist bullshit that'd make the average Kiwi blush, when, well, it's nothing but stereotypes. Trans shit depends on you not thinking about it much.

What really got me peaked was when I, in the spirit of intellectual curiosity, started reading the stuff I was always told was like, the trans Mein Kampf. Helen Joyce, Jesse Singal, even Rowling's stuff... and it was all perfectly reasonable and fairly compassionate to everyone involved. I was always offput by like, the idea of transitioning children, but I told myself that medicine is often a bit icky. But when I realised how non-existent the evidence base for these treatments were, I was fucking furious.
 
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Magicicada_septendecula said:
For me, it was actually pretty recently that I gave up the "live and let live" philosophy towards it. Even Jazz Jennings who I knew about as soon as he got his show barely budged me on that. I did question the morals of the parents a bit, but still figured it was on TLC, a channel known for showing weird extreme cases of any topic imaginable. It wasn't until maybe 2018 or 2019 when I noticed drag and trans kids, particularly Desmond the Amazing, with his psycho mother figuratively (and lilterally?) whoring him out while he's clearly exhausted or even drugged.

Where has this happened? Grindr and Scruff are full of FtM manlets in various stages of transition.
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Yeah Desmond I have mixed feelings on. I used to really pity him, he's obviously been brainwashed and abused and his fucking mother is sick letting him be around people like fucking Alig and sick nonces filling him full of Ketamine and shit.
He looks malnourished, permanently drugged and exhausted and almost like an AIDS patient, its fucking nightmarish a parent would do that to their child.
He's old enough to fucking know better now though, so I also kinda despise the little creep for encouraging other kids and trying to normalize the fucking horrific shit thats turned him into such a fucking Sodomite Harlequin himself, so I don't know what to think.
Shouldn't blame him really, he's been MKULTRA'd and its fucking gross, his fucking parents are evil fucks.
 
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