Why do men have higher rates of suicide?

[Mariposa Electrique]

you can just imagine you can change a culture like that. people trying to force young men to think its ok to seek help will divide men into pussies and hardcore men. guess how it will end...
yep,one part bullied people and another part people even more afraid to seek help.

The other part dying to put on a skirt (and no, I am not being sarcastic)

 

[DNJACK]

*kilt, and its manly as fuck

 

[MW 002]

Men tend to go with more lethal methods (firearms, jumping in front of a train, jumping off tall buildings) while women on the other hand usually go for methods perceived as "painless" such as drug overdose (even though dying from an overdose is actually a rather agonizing way to die- you're more likely to drown in your own vomit than to simply doze off).

 

[Brandobaris]

Do you think the suicide rate would lower? Would it be substantial? IS there a way to help lower it?

I don't see how, despite what the media likes to push, it's becoming more of a womans world all the time (At least in the Western World). Education is tailored to their needs, they are the bigger consumers, so the market has adjusted to cater to them more. Modern Social Media and the iPhone has now made networking a snap, something they are generally more inclined to.

I've heard stories of workplaces completely turned upside down, simply because a man was being autistic around a woman and she went to HR to tell them to just have a quiet talk with him. HR decided the best idea would be to shut the whole place down and got investigators out and combed chat logs for weeks and got interviews. The place turned from a happy workplace to the gulag in the span of a few weeks.

Men are in this difficult position, according to studies women still generally want a man more successful than them, and yet women are earning more and getting more prominent positions all the time. Men are told they should be more emotional and open with their feelings, and then mocked for it, or seen as weak. They are told they should be a stay at home Dad, and yet people smirk and roll their eyes at the Dad with a Pram and a baby harness walking around.

What is the role model for men? Who do men have to look up to for the ideal? All the old ideals are considered dead or offensive. It's like a societal limbo.

 

[HG 400]

I don't see how, despite what the media likes to push, it's becoming more of a womans world all the time (At least in the Western World). Education is tailored to their needs, they are the bigger consumers, so the market has adjusted to cater to them more. Modern Social Media and the iPhone has now made networking a snap, something they are generally more inclined to.

I've heard stories of workplaces completely turned upside down, simply because a man was being autistic around a woman and she went to HR to tell them to just have a quiet talk with him. HR decided the best idea would be to shut the whole place down and got investigators out and combed chat logs for weeks and got interviews. The place turned from a happy workplace to the gulag in the span of a few weeks.

Men are in this difficult position, according to studies women still generally want a man more successful than them, and yet women are earning more and getting more prominent positions all the time. Men are told they should be more emotional and open with their feelings, and then mocked for it, or seen as weak. They are told they should be a stay at home Dad, and yet people smirk and roll their eyes at the Dad with a Pram and a baby harness walking around.

What is the role model for men? Who do men have to look up to for the ideal? All the old ideals are considered dead or offensive. It's like a societal limbo.

Why did this post get so many negative ratings???

 

[DNJACK]

Clinton 2016

 

[WW 635]

What is the role model for men? Who do men have to look up to for the ideal?

Donald Trump is the epitome of manliness.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Alright lets shift the topic a bit and see what some other reasons are.

With the amount of incels/Nice Guys that seem to be everywhere (or at least more prominent with the internet) do you think that has a factor in it?

Actually lets get away from cancer, there are men I have interacted with, and known that are horrible with women while not holding bitter/resentful views towards women. Many people hate the thought of dying alone/unloved, which if someone is cornered into the belief that is going to happen to them, why not end it now?

I read recently that divorces cause more severe affects to men than women, the whole "loss of masculinity" thing, and women file for divorce more often than men.

Also what about nations like China with a huge disparity where there are more younger men than women? (It should be obvious why China has this phenomenon). What is going to happen to the next Chinese generation?

 

[Holdek]

I've heard stories of workplaces completely turned upside down, simply because a man was being autistic around a woman and she went to HR to tell them to just have a quiet talk with him. HR decided the best idea would be to shut the whole place down and got investigators out and combed chat logs for weeks and got interviews. The place turned from a happy workplace to the gulag in the span of a few weeks.

You've "heard stories?"

 

[Bassomatic]

Alright lets shift the topic a bit and see what some other reasons are.

With the amount of incels/Nice Guys that seem to be everywhere (or at least more prominent with the internet) do you think that has a factor in it?

Actually lets get away from cancer, there are men I have interacted with, and known that are horrible with women while not holding bitter/resentful views towards women. Many people hate the thought of dying alone/unloved, which if someone is cornered into the belief that is going to happen to them, why not end it now?

I read recently that divorces cause more severe affects to men than women, the whole "loss of masculinity" thing, and women file for divorce more often than men.

Also what about nations like China with a huge disparity where there are more younger men than women? (It should be obvious why China has this phenomenon). What is going to happen to the next Chinese generation?

Well the incel thing is kinda a mis understood group, it's always been a thing always will be, the net let these people group up and the loudest (most insane) voices took over. So we now have a skewed image of the single people in the west world, in fact going to when I was in high school, incel men were not viewed as a problem, society and my peers all feared the girls.

It's scientifically proven losing a loved one via split up, death etc, is harder than being single as well as can cause more long term damage and depression. So ya it's better to not have loved than loved and lost, medically speaking. These guys are more at risk. With my strange hobby of following incels, I've found they all share an trait of being incredibly selfish. Past an ego, just a me me me mind set. They are owed that perfect 10 virgin woman fuck mommy. They are too good to off themselves.

In regards to normal people whom fear death alone, the reason not ending it is two fold, hope and not becoming a self fulling promise. If you said I have no shot at a family when really it's a lottery winners chance, you can keep playing the lotto till nature does it's thing, as we all do die. Or, you can embrace the fear by self destruction. If you were not wanting to die alone, why would you die alone sooner? When you might not later?

Now, with places like China... that's where it gets scary, there's one thing that happens through out history with a big gap like that, and I'll tell you it's next door countries won't like to hear it. It's war. 20+ million men who couldn't get a family? Going back to Greek times, that means draft. I hope somehow this doesn't pan out.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Now, with places like China... that's where it gets scary, there's one thing that happens through out history with a big gap like that, and I'll tell you it's next door countries won't like to hear it. It's war. 20+ million men who couldn't get a family? Going back to Greek times, that means draft. I hope somehow this doesn't pan out.

Would a higher rate of suicide happen in China due to the gender gap? It's one thing to be a lonely fuck because you are toxic or unlucky, compared to being a lonely fuck because your country literally aborted too many girls and you either have to move to a different country, or have a woman immigrate. Prostitution is already rising, and I expect this to cause a rise in rapes as well in China.

So are men just naturally inclined to feel a heavier burden of failure, therefore taking their own life? Do women have it better and the MRAs are right? While I have my own opinions on the matter I wonder if this a natural or societal phenomenon.....or both?

I believe a large exodus of Chinese men will happen at around 2025-2030.

 

[Male]

Because men are strong enough to get the cap off

 

[Jason Genova]

What is the role model for men? Who do men have to look up to for the ideal?

they're everywhere bro you're just not looking worth a fuck

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[ULTIMATEPRIMETIME]

because if men fuck up there's nowhere for them to go. if a woman fucks up she just marrys a guy and uses his money, which may have worked 60 yrs ago but now that women are saturating the job market and jobs are being moved overseas, one income cant support an entire household anymore unless u work in oil or IT.

 

[fried_kooch]

it's because most men are beta males

 

[keksz]

Just think about it: if a woman wants to feel better about herself she just puts on a slutty dress, walks to the nearest bar and makes it easy on some guy. If she likes him she keeps him, if she doesn't he's out of his life first thing in the morning. Or she makes a booty call to an ex or fuck buddy. What does a man do when he wants to feel good about himself? If you're saying "well he does the same thing" then chances are you're either very lucky in life or :autism:

I've chosen an in-your-face example and some ladies will say they wouldn't feel good by fucking the first guy they meet. The reasoning though, is that they can, no matter how ugly or depressed there will always be a Nice Guy willing to sacrifice everything to be in the good graces of a being with a natural pair of tits. This example easily translates to other parts of life: a woman can easily post a boo-hoo status on Facebook and get a thousand of asspatters and girlfriends to stand up for her no matter how much of a dipshit she is or isn't. I see it almost every time I log in to Facebook and I'm not even joking: "I was feeling bad but then I ate and I'm feeling better". If you think a man can just do the same without being judged as feminine, weak or emo then you're either very lucky in your circle of friendships or :autism:

 

[Vitriol]

it's because most men are beta males

Im assuming this is irony. Try and keep the shitposting to ic.

Just think about it: if a woman wants to feel better about herself she just puts on a slutty dress, walks to the nearest bar and makes it easy on some guy. If she likes him she keeps him, if she doesn't he's out of his life first thing in the morning. Or she makes a booty call to an ex or fuck buddy. What does a man do when he wants to feel good about himself? If you're saying "well he does the same thing" then chances are you're either very lucky in life or :autism:

I've chosen an in-your-face example and some ladies will say they wouldn't feel good by fucking the first guy they meet. The reasoning though, is that they can, no matter how ugly or depressed there will always be a Nice Guy willing to sacrifice everything to be in the good graces of a being with a natural pair of tits. This example easily translates to other parts of life: a woman can easily post a boo-hoo status on Facebook and get a thousand of asspatters and girlfriends to stand up for her no matter how much of a dipshit she is or isn't. I see it almost every time I log in to Facebook and I'm not even joking: "I was feeling bad but then I ate and I'm feeling better". If you think a man can just do the same without being judged as feminine, weak or emo then you're either very lucky in your circle of friendships or :autism:

This is straight out of the old sluthate boards. Is it a pasta?

 

[keksz]

No, did you take offense to that? I'm not saying women can't or shouldn't slut themselves, you're reading into it. I'm just saying that if someone is feeling down and lonely it's 50x easier to get a good fuck or asspats as a woman than a man - and I'm not making any judgment of valor on top of it so lol calm down.

 

[Vitriol]

No, did you take offense to that? I'm not saying women can't or shouldn't slut themselves, you're reading into it. I'm just saying that if someone is feeling down and lonely it's 50x easier to get a good fuck or asspats as a woman than a man - and I'm not making any judgment of valor on top of it so lol calm down.

Offence? No, i genuinely thought it was a loveshy pasta. You express yourself very poorly.

You are also dead wrong when someone hits 30 it definately reverses. What you are talking about is true only of young attractive 20 somethings imo. Thats why your post reads like loveshy whining.

Also if you dont quote my post i dont get any notification you posted.

 

[Twinkle2017]

Sorry for being autistic but what's the meaning of PineTar?