Why do men have higher rates of suicide?

[The Demon]

Is there anything men can't do better than women?

prostitution

 

[Erwin Blackthorn]

To take the words from the late Patrice O' Neal "It's the power of pussy, baby."

Imagine being a useless human being with no goals, no money, no means of effort, and no reason to live. Now imagine you're that but you're an attractive woman. I think it's hard for a woman to commit suicide when their hands busy in a man's wallet, don't you?

 

[vertexwindi]

prostitution

Then why most prostitutes need a pimp? Explain that, wise guy.

 

[The Demon]

Then why most prostitutes need a pimp? Explain that, wise guy.

the pimp hand hits their reset button and they make more money from doing more work

 

[WW 635]

but without men who is going to take the trash out?

And fix stuff sobs the house, lift heavy boxes, reach the top shelf...

 

[Sylvie Paula Paula]

Something something "toxic masculinity" "male socialization". Men are taught at a very young age that it's MANLY not to talk about your feelings, and just let them build up. It's "womanly" to have an emotion such as sadness or fear; the only negative emotion you can have is anger. Of course, some men cannot really control their emotions, and get reprimanded for it their whole lives. If a guy has experienced trauma of any kind, it's considered unrealistic unless he was a cop or was in the army.

There's also the fact that if a man is raped, he's more likely to either a) not be believed or b) be congratulated (if it's female-on-male rape); even if it's something like CSA. I think of all the cases where middle schoolers are coerced into sex by their older teachers, teacher gets pregnant, shit hits the fan, and now the kid's considered a fucking Chad by both his peers and adult men who are virgins well into their 40s. There's also the slim possibility of someone accusing you of rape, like what Mattress Girl did. She was able to ruin that young man's life for political clout, and even when it was proven to be fake she was still hailed as a hero. While a normal person would go "hey, that's fucked up", modern feminists took it and ran with it.

 

[heathercho]

To take the words from the late Patrice O' Neal "It's the power of pussy, baby."

Imagine being a useless human being with no goals, no money, no means of effort, and no reason to live. Now imagine you're that but you're an attractive woman. I think it's hard for a woman to commit suicide when their hands busy in a man's wallet, don't you?

Men need to find the joy in shopping.
But I feel sad for you if the only women who want you are ones that want your money.

 

[DNJACK]

Something something "toxic masculinity" "male socialization". Men are taught at a very young age that it's MANLY not to talk about your feelings, and just let them build up. It's "womanly" to have an emotion such as sadness or fear; the only negative emotion you can have is anger. Of course, some men cannot really control their emotions, and get reprimanded for it their whole lives. If a guy has experienced trauma of any kind, it's considered unrealistic unless he was a cop or was in the army.

There's also the fact that if a man is raped, he's more likely to either a) not be believed or b) be congratulated (if it's female-on-male rape); even if it's something like CSA. I think of all the cases where middle schoolers are coerced into sex by their older teachers, teacher gets pregnant, shit hits the fan, and now the kid's considered a fucking Chad by both his peers and adult men who are virgins well into their 40s. There's also the slim possibility of someone accusing you of rape, like what Mattress Girl did. She was able to ruin that young man's life for political clout, and even when it was proven to be fake she was still hailed as a hero. While a normal person would go "hey, that's fucked up", modern feminists took it and ran with it.

I dont allow my women to be sad or afraid either.

 

[Slowboat to China]

Don't men still make up a majority of the armed forces? Military service, especially in some of the wars we've had in the 20th and early 21st centuries, can really fuck you up. And they're less likely to elicit sympathy from others who see them suffering; a crying woman is pitiable, a crying man is weak. (Or a soyboy, but that's another discussion entirely.)

 

[WW 635]

I dont allow my women to be sad or afraid either.

Women? Plural?

 

[DNJACK]

Women? Plural?

I'm including our thai ladybois

 

[WW 635]

I'm including our thai ladybois

I love those ladybois

 

[Secret Asshole]

I know you are going to hate me but gender roles. Men typically take on harder, higher stress occupations. Despite 'advances' in the feminist movement, gender roles still hold that men be the provider. Every time unemployment increases, you have a statistically significant increase in suicides and deaths.

Men are also not cottled, treated more harshly than their female colleagues. Men have also been traditionally less likely to seek psychological help for depression. As others have said, men aren't afraid of making a mess so they choose more lethal methods than women.

Men also typically occupy more high stress positions than women, which can lead to overwhelming anxiety and depression as theu are just expected to deal with it.

There's also the issue of poor mental health services and a lack of insurance for decent therapy and psychiatrists. As others have said as well, there's this idea among proud men of 'being a man', sucessful, strong, etc. When they fail to live up to these high expectations it can result in depression. And they you get made fun of for it. As a result most men just don't get help.

Same with men who are stuck in a rut and feel completely powerless over their lives and suicide is one way to take control. A lot of NEETs do this.

There's also massive substance abuse as self medicating, especially in poor areas where there are no jobs.

Then there are abusive relationships, emotional and otherwise. My mom used to work for a company in the 1970s (Also she actually experienced a pay gap because she was flat out told she was making less for the same job because she was a woman) and this guy would come in with bruises because his wife beat him with a pan and he didn't hit women. He later killed himself.

It's the same thing that men have almost identical rates of eating disorders as women but nobody talks about it because that's it something men do.

So basically, it is actually because of gender roles.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

Women have a bigger support for their issues. Men however are silenced and told to shut up. Men have more stress in situations, especially if they're the main bread winners but aren't encouraged to talk about their problems.

That's how it seems to me.

 

[Slap47]

Men are told they need to have a purpose and when you strip that away they start killing themselves. Part of why soldiers kill themselves. They're told that they're soldiers and that they have a duty to protect. Their identity and purpose is linked to their job and when they lose that job they've sometimes lost everything. Not to downplay the brutality of war and stress of killing though. It's the same case with most professions.

 

[Erwin Blackthorn]

Men are told they need to have a purpose and when you strip that away they start killing themselves. Part of why soldiers kill themselves. They're told that they're soldiers and that they have a duty to protect. Their identity and purpose is linked to their job and when they lose that job they've sometimes lost everything. Not to downplay the brutality of war and stress of killing though. It's the same case with most professions.

That's actually a very interesting take on military suicides. Usually it's the idea that they have guilt or their PTSD gets them to the point of ending it all, and I haven't really thought of the idea of purpose. But it makes sense.

People who get comfortable and used to a certain way of living, forced into a sudden change of environment, and expected to handle their drop from the "high life". Very similar to if a celebrity suddenly became a McDonald's worker over night and nobody knew who they were.

I did find an interesting thing though. So it seems military personnel are less likely to get divorced than the civilian population (US statistics), while being 2x more likely to commit suicide.

Could it be that they have the option to get shot at, away from the wife, and take it; then when they return, and get nagged at by the wife, they shoot themselves with all of that practice?

 

[The Demon]

while you're all discussing this seriously, i'm here pissing myself laughing thinking about how storm troopers can't commit suicide because they always miss

 

[Sovietmongler]

For the TL;DR version of this thread.

Toxic Masculinity.

Done and brushed.

 

[The Demon]

For the TL;DR version of this thread.

Toxic Masculinity.

Done and brushed.

i feel like there's some truth to this

 

[AnOminous]

Women are so dumb they can't even kill themselves.