Wizardchan

[exball]

So I might as well go tell my parents and sister that they are filthy, uneducated trash for having tattoos then.

Don't forget to mention they're evil whores who play with the "nice guys" emotions.

 

[Springblossom]

So I might as well go tell my parents and sister that they are filthy, uneducated trash for having tattoos then.

Don't forget to mention they're evil whores who play with the "nice guys" emotions.

As well as 'normies' who have no shame, no emotions, and exist only to make those lesser than them feel bad.

 

[wizard_diplomat]

Hello,

I'm a wizard chan user and self described permavirgin.

I know you hate us. And I agree that some of my brothren are dillusional and hateful (racist, etc).........

But the core thing we all have in common is the pain of being a virgin with no hope of losing it. It's hard to find people to relate to about this issue. Even on the internet, few communities understand. And so I sympathize with these people (even the loveshies) despite denouncing some of the things they say and attitudes they harbor. I feel at home with these folk because no one else empathizes with this virginal pain and NO HOPE of losing it.

You may say it's not a big deal get over it. Or stop complaining and do the work to help yourself lose your virginity. Or hire a prostitute. But I feel these are wrong and if you want to I will explain why I think so (or maybe I am wrong, myself, and you can explain to me).

I know my brethren may hate me for posting here...but I just wanted to after reading 12 forum pages worth of straight of pure bashing and hate and little sympathy and understanding from people here (although there was some). Sorry if I'm being a buzzkill. I know this is a "lolcow" thread and so is for circlelolling, so I hope I don't get banned for breaking the circlelol.

[That feel when no intimate female contact. Ever.]

 

[Surtur]

The problem is your attitude. I have my own set of issues and yet I function. I attract mates, attractive ones at that. You dont have an excuse. And for the record, I dont hate you, what I dont like is your attitude.

 

[exball]

But you shun women and anyone you perceive as a "normalfag". It just doesn't make sense how most of v9k behaves.

 

[CatParty]

yeah it's kinda easy to get laid if you have the right attitude.

 

[exball]

yeah it's kinda easy to get laid if you have the right attitude.

Even if you don't, its possible.

 

[wizard_diplomat]

The problem is your attitude. I have my own set of issues and yet I function. I attract mates, attractive ones at that. You dont have an excuse. And for the record, I dont hate you, what I dont like is your attitude.

You attract mates because you are being yourself and what you are is attractive (and I don't mean looks [alone]).

I am unattractive to the opposite sex. It's the fact that who I am as an individual, as a personality, at the core of my being, is unattractive to women.

And who am I? I am a person who is a mute. Fears people. And only wants sex. These are things women hate. They hate men who are quiet (and I am COMPLETELY quiet). They hate it when they only want sex. They hate cowards.

I can't change these things about myself without lying and putting on a false mask. Therein lies the conundrum. I desire something from the opposite sex: sex. Yet I'll never obtain it without being fake.

Excuse this analogy, but I am like the ugliest woman on earth who no man wants to bone. And it is very difficult for her to change her looks. So she will suffer loneliness and no one to have her children and hold her at night
The difference is that my pain stems from sexual lust. I can survive no relationship and no children but I EXTREMELY desire sex. Prostitutes don't offer real intimate sex...it is fake.

I want sex without strings yet also I want real sex where the person cares about me. But that is impossible because women hate shy men and so my desire will never be fulfilled. I am realistic. Unlike some of my brothren who turn this realization into a hate towards women, I just accept it apathetically (but of course I resent it....maybe the same way women resent the fact that men are biologically wired to think about women's physicality?).

Still think changing my attitude is the right thing? Change my attitude about being true and authentic? Is this what you're saying to me? If it is then I agree with you. You can be yourself and be liked, but I have to fake it. Maybe I should do that?
/long post

TL;DR: I'm shy. Women don't want sex from shy men. I can't change this about myself (without being fake and going against my true nature). Thus, my desire for true sexual reciprocation will never be fulfilled (despite sex workers being an option).

 

[exball]

TL;DR
He's shallow.

 

[KatsuKitty]

Hello,

I'm a wizard chan user and self described permavirgin.

I know you hate us. And I agree that some of my brothren are dillusional and hateful (racist, etc).........

But the core thing we all have in common is the pain of being a virgin with no hope of losing it. It's hard to find people to relate to about this issue. Even on the internet, few communities understand. And so I sympathize with these people (even the loveshies) despite denouncing some of the things they say and attitudes they harbor. I feel at home with these folk because no one else empathizes with this virginal pain and NO HOPE of losing it.

You may say it's not a big deal get over it. Or stop complaining and do the work to help yourself lose your virginity. Or hire a prostitute. But I feel these are wrong and if you want to I will explain why I think so (or maybe I am wrong, myself, and you can explain to me).

I know my brethren may hate me for posting here...but I just wanted to after reading 12 forum pages worth of straight of pure bashing and hate and little sympathy and understanding from people here (although there was some). Sorry if I'm being a buzzkill. I know this is a "lolcow" thread and so is for circlelolling, so I hope I don't get banned for breaking the circlelol.

[That feel when no intimate female contact. Ever.]

I was once a permavirgin. I know what it's like to go your whole life missing this big orgy you're not invited to. All that's really changed this year was my sexual experience; I still have the same tremendous problems getting partners and dating for me is about as easy as differential multivariate calculus. Is this sympathetic enough for you to read on?

Allow me to offer my perspective. Having sex with someone will change very little about yourself, perhaps you'll view getting laid as something extraordiarily difficult as opposed to impossible. But really, the underlying problem is the way you view your circumstance. You can loosely equate something like this to disability. Imagine being paraplegic from birth, and seeing all your friends meet normal life milestones like joining the sports team, getting their driver's licence, achieving independence in life. While you're largely confined to a chair and have no hope of doing any of these things easily. Understandably, you would be a bit bitter about your lot in life and I wouldn't blame you for being depressed about it.

What you are going though may very well be an actual disability. I have some form of autism suspected, without clear diagnosis as of this post, however Asperger's is being suggested as a possibility. This would explain how it always was utterly impossible for me to read social cues or understand what flirting and body language is. I vividly recall being in high school and having grave difficulty discerning the intentions of both boys and girls who wanted to be my friend or even more. One thing that comes to mind is that I could never tell whether or not their advances were sarcastic. Unless someone knocks me over the head and tells me in clear, concise language that they like me, I don't understand what their feelings or intentions are. This was essentially necesarry for my only relationship, a three-month fling that happened at age 22.

Whining to Wizardchan about your virginity makes as much sense as posting somewhere else about how bad you have it for being a paraplegic and missing out on normal life experiences like walking or driving. It's not helping you to sit there in a depressive circlejerk and concede defeat to fate that you will never develop enough skills to find a suitable partner. If you want to get any better, you have to understand several things I listed below. After coming to realize these things, I wasn't bothered by my virginity, at least as much.

- It's okay not to get laid every Saturday or be a virgin at advanced age. It's not normal, nor desirable, but neither is paraplegia. That doesn't mean you have to feel sorry for yourself over it and dwell on how bad your life is.
- Accept that relationships will never come easy to you. Realize that having a social deficit isn't an indictment on your "manliness" and that such indictments are usually used by retards like Neil Strauss to sell you books that aren't worth the paper they're printed on. It's okay to be this way.
- Understand that just because sex doesn't come easy to you, doesn't mean you'll never have it. This is probably the most important thing I can tell you. It is very easy to view your having sex as something contrary to fundamental laws of nature, but really, this is not the case.
- There are things you can do to improve that help dramatically, and things you have no control over that have marginal effect. Losing another 20-30 pounds and dressing sexier is going to help you more than having some vague idea of a plastic surgery done on your face for some vague idea of ugliness that you arrived at by erroneous exclusion of other traits.

That last part, admittedly, didn't come to me until I finally had a partner, because I found it so difficult to picture myself in those scenarios after having made it to 22 without any experience whatsoever. But please trust my last point. I know your thought process. You cite your late virginity over and over again as "fundamental proof" that you can't get laid, but really, it doesn't prove anything more than the fact that getting laid isn't easy for you to do. There's nothing wrong with being that way. It's called getting dealt a bad hand. Are you going to do something about it though, or are you going to whine about it? It's not like there's absolutely nothing you can do.

Just because something isn't easy for you doesn't mean you can never enjoy it. Just ask the thousands of paraplegics who get around, drive, and enjoy otherwise uninhibited lives that are only slightly more inconvient than the average man. If they can accept that driving will require blowing into a straw to hit the brakes, I think you can accept that dating will require a lot of rejections and misses. Dating isn't easy for you. So the fuck what. It's not impossible unless you're dead. Or, of course, whining about it every day on Wizardchan.

 

[Surtur]

As someone who studies Psychology, I can already see your problem. You have accepted your nature as something that you can't change, but trust me you can. It isn't easy, but it can be done. I know some ugly mother fuckers who get laid, I knew this guy who I worked with who was fat, stupid and ugly and he was getting some. Your not being true to yourself if you are miserable, you clearly want something else but it is too easy just to say "fuck it". If thats what you want, I can;t make to do anything. But I am telling you right now, your problem is you, not anything else.

 

[CatParty]

easy, don't be shy.

 

[wizard_diplomat]

But you shun women and anyone you perceive as a "normalfag". It just doesn't make sense how most of v9k behaves.

the shun of women is fueled by anger and resentment because of nosex.

we are jealous of "normalfag"s because they have the sex we want to have (and friendships for those who want it [I personally don't care about friendships]) and experiences (like traveling...because we are afraid to go to new places because of fear but some would like it).

that being said, just because we are mainly jealous of normies, doesn't mean we want to completely be them. by "normalfags" we usually mean people who are oblivious to how the world really is...they're not stupid...they just lack the knowledge we have, thus we are wizards because we have knowledge they don't have. we are aware of the workings of the world without rosecolored glasses (although we have our own special types of delusions caused by, once again, our being virgins)...

the irony is that the having of this knowledge probably is a main reason for our virgindom. ignorance is bliss
/condescension

 

[Surtur]

So, I am holding back the urge to mock you into oblivion for what you just said. Do you know how incredibly stupid that is? I know how the world works, the world is not some complex monolith where the few get laid while wizards fap to animu. People are social pack animals. We have an internal need to be social and do things with others. Its healthy to interact. If you have problems with this, there are resources out there to help you. Fuck man, I don't see why you WANT to be miserable.

 

[exball]

Or Chris.

 

[CatParty]

sounds like you hate yourself more than anything. just work on that. don't project. and you should be fine. living life is easy.

 

[applecat]

Still think changing my attitude is the right thing? Change my attitude about being true and authentic? Is this what you're saying to me? If it is then I agree with you. You can be yourself and be liked, but I have to fake it. Maybe I should do that?

No, don't do that. Keep your fucked-up self away from all women forever, please.

 

[Himawari]

There's one thing I often find myself wondering about wizards when I see what they post:

Do they want sex because they truly desire it, or is it simply because society expects it of them?

From what our diplomat friend has told us about himself, it seems to be the former in his case, but sometimes I wonder about others at Wizardchan.

See, look. I'm 27 years old, and still a virgin. I've never even had a boyfriend; the furthest I've ever gotten with a boy is holding hands. And I'm pretty much okay with that? I mean I do want to get married and have kids someday, and obviously sex will need to happen, but I'm not in any rush for it (except that it should ideally happen before menopause).

I genuinely do not understand the need or desire for sex. But here's the other thing: I'm asexual. I understand that this makes me and my viewpoints incredibly different from most of the rest of society, so I'm not going to preach to anyone about how "you just shouldn't care so much about sex, just like me." You can't "become" like me just by willing it, and for me to assume such a thing is simply moronic.

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this, but I'll just continue vomiting my thoughts and maybe I'll reach a sensible conclusion eventually.

So even putting my unconventional views of sex aside, there is this bizarre social stigma against adult males who have not had sex (and, paradoxically, a similar social stigma against unmarried adult females who have had sex), and I can't help but feel that this is incredibly unhealthy, especially when I look at places like Wizardchan. Society is expecting boys to have had sex by a certain age and shaming those who have not, regardless of whether or not these boys are socially or emotionally ready or able to have sex. And I have to wonder how many Wizards have slipped into their depression just because they buy too much into society's unrealistic expectations of them.

I know that there are people out there, including some extended family, who expect me, as a woman in my mid to late twenties, to have settled down with a man and had children by now. I have cousins younger than me who already have kids in school. And one other cousin of mine once literally cornered me by the Thanksgiving turkey one year to lecture me on how I had to hurry up and get married and pump out "at least three kids" (but he's some right-wing nut convinced that Obama is the antichrist who's about to bring about the apocalypse or whatever so we need to repopulate the world with pure whities and I don't even know let's not talk about him). But you know what? I don't give a shit. I don't care what society expects of me; I'm living my life at my own pace, and I refuse to conform to their expectations simply because I'm different - because I'm me.

But it takes a whole lot of willpower to reject the unrealistic expectations of society like that. It's a tall order that not everyone can handle, so it would be insensitive and unrealistic of me to preach that everyone must do this. But if it will do you good, I hope you can at least try.

living life is easy.

I think that's a bit unfair to say, because sometimes, and for some people, it's not. I don't think it's right to invalidate others' struggles like that, and while some of the struggles wizards face may be imagined (for lack of a better word), I do think they have some valid hardships that shouldn't be dismissed simply because a vocal portion of them are utter twats.

(But if you were joking or being ironic there, my bad. )

 

[Surtur]

living life is easy.

I think that's a bit unfair to say, because sometimes, and for some people, it's not. I don't think it's right to invalidate others' struggles like that, and while some of the struggles wizards face may be imagined (for lack of a better word), I do think they have some valid hardships that shouldn't be dismissed simply because a vocal portion of them are utter twats.

(But if you were joking or being ironic there, my bad. )

I declare you the winner of this thread.

 

[Springblossom]

This is hopeless. When I saw this guy, I thought, "Oh, maybe he's trying to talk to us, to find out why we said what we said." But then he just started spewing the same wizard bullshit about how evil the normalfags are, and how wizards are somehow different from them. And I know they're going to sperg out over this post about how I'm misrepresenting them, but you know what? I really don't care. I'm not lowering my intelligence by looking into those walls of garbage he posted and deciphering his feelings.

Anyone can change. It doesn't matter if you're beautiful or ugly, if you're rich or poor, if you're smart or dumb, you can change. Hell, I changed myself, so apparently it's not only possible but pretty easy. But that's the thing: you have to make the decision, and you have to be serious about going through with it, come hell or high water. These people aren't serious. They hit one little setback, or someone says something negative, and they give up and dive right back into Wizardchan and spew more frog jpegs. And if you're not going to go through with it, then you deserve every little bit of misery you get.

Fuck you, Wizardchan. Springblossom out.