Words & Phrases DSP Has Invented or Misuses - DSP'isms that make you say "HUUUHN?!?"

[Michael Janke]

Philtalian Canon: Something I am going to use for my set up.

does he mean Canon Camera Brand

 

[DZoomer]

Phil's pronunciation of some words is generally made fun of even by his paypigs. "Morahn", "evahlved" etc.

But is there any explanation for why he speaks like that? Do people who grew up where he was raised all speak like Phil? I've never seen another American with such an annoying pronunciation and cadence.

 

[TankMelee]

Phil's pronunciation of some words is generally made fun of even by his paypigs. "Morahn", "evahlved" etc.

But is there any explanation for why he speaks like that? Do people who grew up where he was raised all speak like Phil? I've never seen another American with such an annoying pronunciation and cadence.

I had speculated that it was part of the Inland Northern American Vowel Shift. I couldn't find anything that sounds right since it's typical around Detroit and Chicago, which don't sound like him at all, but I've since found this guy performing an authentic upstate New York "Rochester" accent, which I think sounds similar to Phil.

Both the vowels and (exaggerated) nasal tone seem to line up, so I feel like it's close. The question remains whether he was raised by somebody with that inflection or if it's endemic around Bridgeport.

As for the cadence: I have no idea. Whenever he thinks he's sharing a particularly important thought (or is merely insulting somebody emphatically), he emphasizes and drags the vowels out. It sounds like he's trying to lecture an idiot, like in old cartoons where you speak slowly to stupid people. I know LindyBeige, in a years-old video, gave a Brit's impression of how Americans emphasize words by saying them louder and slower, but I've never seen it as bad as DSP does.

 

[RougeRed]

As for the cadence: I have no idea. Whenever he thinks he's sharing a particularly important thought (or is merely insulting somebody emphatically), he emphasizes and drags the vowels out. It sounds like he's trying to lecture an idiot, like in old cartoons where you speak slowly to stupid people.

I actually have a theory about this. I think that talking to an audience that never talks back combined with his lack of any other social interaction is to blame. Normal human conversation involves a lot of feedback and non-verbal communication that is absent in this "streamer talking to a child audience" thing, and over 13 years Phil has just flat out forgotten how to speak like a human to other humans.

 

[Michael Janke]

I actually have a theory about this. I think that talking to an audience that never talks back combined with his lack of any other social interaction is to blame. Normal human conversation involves a lot of feedback and non-verbal communication that is absent in this "streamer talking to a child audience" thing, and over 13 years Phil has just flat out forgotten how to speak like a human to other humans.

wouldnt this be really easy to prove or disprove
phil has some really old videos from before his ability to speak should have atrophied.
If you watch his infamous issac himmler video for instance. he still has a very similar accent.
i think the reason phil speaks the way he does is a combination of his upbringing from his mother and the Snooty Uptalk from the private school he attended. basically those factors created the pigspeak we know and love.

 

[Corpun]

I had speculated that it was part of the Inland Northern American Vowel Shift. I couldn't find anything that sounds right since it's typical around Detroit and Chicago, which don't sound like him at all, but I've since found this guy performing an authentic upstate New York "Rochester" accent, which I think sounds similar to Phil.

I figure his strange pronunciation on stuff like moron is all his accent, being born and raised in New England and everything.

 

[Flavius Anthemius]

I figure his strange pronunciation on stuff like moron is all his accent, being born and raised in New England and everything.

It might be a bit of a stretch, but it could possibly be some strange regional accent that he may have picked up from kids in his early schooling years or potentially his parents.

I did a little bit of a deep dive into New England accents and since I'm not from Burgerland it all sounded fairly fresh and different to me, the standard Connecticut accent is sort of the most similar to a New York accent out of the nearest NE states. However when you leave the New York city metro area, you have a lot of regional communities quite separated from the city and have their own distinguished accent that you can definitely pick out compared to someone from the city.

So we know that he grew up in and around the suburbs of Bridgeport, and didn't exactly live in hicksville, so that doesn't really explain if he has some sort regional accent. I think it goes back to what I was talking about earlier, the way in which his voice sounds was probably just influenced by the people around him growing up, you know how an accent would normally develop for most kids (these days it turns out multimedia is hugely influential on how a person sounds, but that's a discussion for another day).

Although this doesn't really explain the strange way he pronounces some words or elongates them in order to emphasise a certain sound or make his tone sound more prominent for whatever reason. I think the only explanation that makes the most sense in his case is that Phil attempts to be more book smart then he actually is, when he stumbles upon on a word that is actually not supposed to be used/said that way, he doesn't pick it up because in his mind he thinks it's right because who has corrected that mistake for him before? Likely no one. Maybe in his early high school days but if your English teacher is not competent or just bad at teaching, your vernacular may not be as good as it could be. Apparently Phil did Latin at some point in his life, so it's very unusual to say certain words wrong when he's been exposed to another language that has vocabulary sounding fairly different to English. I don't think Phil is the type of person at all to do a lot of reading/writing, so like a lot of high school students he would have struggled to reach a certain level of skill (apart from you know, the fact that he was valedictorian, but I could go on a whole rant as to why that was given to him because his academic achievements are not actually what they appear to be, but I don't want to ramble).

Phil must have some learning difficulties, from the moment he graced his presence on the internet you could see that.

 

[Corpun]

I did a little bit of a deep dive into New England accents and since I'm not from Burgerland it all sounded fairly fresh and different to me, the standard Connecticut accent is sort of the most similar to a New York accent out of the nearest NE states. However when you leave the New York city metro area, you have a lot of regional communities quite separated from the city and have their own distinguished accent that you can definitely pick out compared to someone from the city.

That's fairly standard across America (Or at least was, general American kind of ruined that). If you ever speak with older people from the boomer generation or earlier you will really notice it.

So we know that he grew up in and around the suburbs of Bridgeport, and didn't exactly live in hicksville, so that doesn't really explain if he has some sort regional accent.

New Englanders generally have a noticable accent compared to other regions of the country, even in urban areas. Stuff like Car usually becomes Cah.

I think it goes back to what I was talking about earlier, the way in which his voice sounds was probably just influenced by the people around him growing up

If the theory Phil is a autist has any weight this is assured, autists generally pick up verbal cues and ticks from people around them.

 

[UncleTusky]

It might be a bit of a stretch, but it could possibly be some strange regional accent that he may have picked up from kids in his early schooling years or potentially his parents.

It is not a typical Northeastern US accent. I grew up in that part of the country including drives through CT to visit family, and I have never heard anybody (Southern Maine, New Hampshire, Boston, Worcester, Providence, CT, NYC, Jersey) talk like that. Depending on what part of Connecticut you are in, the accent will sound very similar to either Boston NYC or Long Island because the state is wedged between two much larger ones.

Somebody in the first Phil megathread described it as a weird ripoff of either a Boston or NYC accent and that sounds about right to me. My guess (and this is just that) is that you are mostly right, somebody in his life when he was young, probably a neighbor or family member, did have a much stronger accent but he mostly unlearned it as he grew up because regional accents/dialects are becoming rarer and less distinct as Amerimutts keep moving around.

Edit: Ninja'd.

Edit x2:

Apparently Phil did Latin at some point in his life, so it's very unusual to say certain words wrong when he's been exposed to another language that has vocabulary sounding fairly different to English.

It's Phil, he can do rote memorization but he cannot make connections unless somebody spells them out for him. To pick a language related example, when he was playing Pokemon X/Y one of the first menus to pop up was language selection. When he started scrolling and got to "Deutsch" he not only giggled at the word but tried to pronounce it like it was English. I'm not sure he realized that "Deutsch" meant "German" or that English pronunciations don't carry over to other languages, even if they use the Latin alphabet.

I also do not think that knowing Latin would have helped him with pronunciation. Latin education also focuses on things like grammar and syntax over spoken or conversational skills because it is a dead language and the main purpose of learning it is to read religious and historical texts. The Latin teachers at his Catholic school may have pronounced things incorrectly and probably did not correct him if he did because again, they are there to teach him how to read documents from the Roman Empire and Catholic Church, not hold a conversation.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Not to shit all over this fun, but given that Phil cannot manage to roll his eyes or turn is whole body around properly, it's possible that that extends to his speech as well. Meaning, he sounds like no one else because he does everything like no one else, out of just being stupid and weird.

Then again, we've never heard what his parents sound like...

 

[Kraftwerk Autobahn]

A new easily quotable one, finally (12:37 if timestamp doesn't work)

Focus group

Websters defines it as: a small group of people whose response to something (such as a new product or a politician's image) is studied to determine the response that can be expected from a larger population

Dave's definition: A group that focuses in on doing something in particular dood! For example hating a successful streamer that did nothing wrong!

12:37: "You actually focus in on people, who HATE something, and you become a 'HATE FOCUS GROUP' all you do is crap on something and you revel in bringing down the thing you don't like."
13:26 also: "...so let me sit around with another FOCUS GROUP of people, who just want to shit on it."

 

[DerichLovesSSI]

"Their ship is defunct"

Read: derelict

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

"contribute"

"contribution"

"positive"

"positivity"

"donation"

"buy in"

"step up"

 

[TheGoutburglar]

You know what I just noticed? How, for most of those graphs, the highest peaks are post-Leanna. May not be a connection there, but it's interesting nonetheless how much he has ramped up a lot of those terms from mid 2017 onward.

Has me wondering what those graphs would look like from 2018 onward if Katherine had stayed a fixture of the streams this whole time.

 

[Iron Hamster]

I just find it odd some of those terms haven't flat out broken the chart.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

I just find it odd some of those terms haven't flat out broken the chart.

Well if you notice the numbers on the left are bigger on some of them, like "contribute" and "positive", which go up to 600. So those WOULD have done that, if Massively hadn't adjusted for it.

In thinking on what I posited earlier, it may be as simple as the effect of Phil spending more time on camera by himself, combined with the (presumable) coincidence of him whaling out on gacha to a much more insane degree from mid-2017 onward. (Not going to go into the implications here of it NOT being a coincidence, that's a whole other topic.)

 

[rubynutmeg]

Actually watching DSP live for SIFU as a streamer I used to watch actually rage quit it last night - and he's someone who always plays the hardest difficulties and loves challenge modes. Anyway, onto DSP being DSP:

Word: Patricide
What it means: Someone who kills their own father
What DSP thinks it means: Someone who kills your father

Also I've not logged in but during his best/most disappointing games of 2021 bullshit I noticed he STILL cannot pronounce "successor" properly. He says it "sussessor". I used to marvel that he was valedictorian until I saw that like half of Americans are functionally illiterate.

 

[Full Race Replay]

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Phil has managed to misremember the origin of the "Mandela Effect". Instead of it being people thinking Mandela died in prison he claims it's because some people remember him as a benevolent leader and some as a harsh dictator. I am continuously surprised at how he can be so retarded and wrong in the most poetic ways.

 

[ZehnBoat]

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he has mandela effected the mandela effect

 

[Iron Hamster]

Shocked he didn't say it was stealing someone's backpack in South Africa