Worst RPG members ever

Most of the characters in the Dragon Age games (sorry Frank, but you couldn't save them even with an okay story you had to work with). That dude in one of the FF games whose sole purpose in life was to be a suicide bomber (just drop the bomb). Red X111, not a fan of playable animals in games. I draw the line at Sonic. Everyone in Suikoden, they're only good to be glorified human Pokemon. Cast of Final Fantasy XIII, you can tell it was never meant to be an RPG.
 
I take "worst character ever" as a challenge. Anyone can take the best characters and win the game, I choose to pick the worst party possible and still win.

I've found that most bad characters fall into certain categories:

* Poorly optimised. These characters start out built wrong, and you have to either respec them (if allowed) or spend a long time leveling them correctly while they suck shit. Examples: Mission Vao, Merrill, Jerrick.

* Complex abilities. Some characters have minigames associated with them or other mechanics that you have to spend a lot of time developing. Others have very situational abilities that are awesome but require outside research or hours of trial-and-error to find out. Examples: Gau, pretty much any blue mage in a Final Fantasy game, Cait Sith.

* Overshadowed by someone else. Steiner is a straightforward character. He's a brick, but he's the best at being a brick. The problem is, he overshadows Freya and Amarant who also hit things for a living. Note that many of these characters do have things they do well, but most people dismiss them for their more famous colleagues. Examples: Many ff5 jobs, Eiko, Jean, Edge.

* Chrono Cross Syndrome. These character are legitimately bad. Edward before the remakes (FFDS edward is my favorite version), DK Cecil before the renakes, Harley, most Chrono Cross characters (hence the name).
 
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You’re pretty much intentionally handicapping yourself in FFIX if your team isn’t Zidane, Garnet/Dagger, Vivi, and Quina.

Vivi's worthless. Black Magic as a whole in the last two chapters of FF9 is worthless. Eiko eventually gets the Maiden Prayer accessory which trivializes the rest of the game. So few enemies in the last half of the game have wind resistance that she no longer has opposition when it comes to pure damage. For 30 MP she can one shot just about everything by level 70. If you run Dagger and Eiko together they breeze through Memoria because every boss is either ice, fire, wind, or holy weak. Kuja's the only one who isn't, but he doesn't resist any element so it's a field day on how easy he is. The game pretty much gives you max Opals and Topaz, and it only takes a little bit of synthesizing to max Sapphires, so Fenrir, Ifrit and Shiva blow through the game with ease for you.



The turtle in Shining Force 2 is one of those what if characters. His Monster class is fun but you really have to grind him to be worthwhile. Best way is to wait until the chess board battle and the defense ring to aura and gain him up to level 30 before promoting.


Ox and Gobi in Breath of Fire 1 serve only 1 purpose, to be morphed with Karn. Ox is too slow to be great, and Gobi is just too weak over all and his magic can only be used under water.

Jean in BoF2 is worthless, Spar is pretty close to it as well. The first two BoFs did a good job of making your non-team characters useful with the merging abilities.

Nina was annoying as shit in the first half of BoF3, but got better personality wise in part 2.. and then was completely useless because your hero gets healing magic and makes her worthless.

Nina sucks again in BoF4 but this time you can swap her in briefly to do a mass heal and pop her back in to the back row where she belongs.

When it comes to FF4, the GBA version really highlights how mediocre your final team is. I swapped in the twins in place of Rydia and Rosa, and bounced Edge for Yang. The caster twins are twice as fast at casting spells, and Yang smashes Edge's damage as well as having absurd HP growth Edge sorely needed. Just laughed my way through the final dungeon. I can't tell if this was just oversight from the design team with how quickly the twins magic stats grew, or if they purposely nerf the final team to make the moon difficult.
 
Everything in the last dungeon of FF9 is weak to black magic except for the weird crystal things. Reflect×2 + autoreflect on your whole party works wonders. Doomsday can both hurt the enemies and heal the party. Meteor with high willpower is the most damaging attack in the game to a single target.

I generally run quina/amarant/freya though.
 
Umaro and his permanent beserk state in FF6 can really go fuck itself.
But he is unaffected by the Fanatics' Tower, so just let him do his thing against Magi Master.

Gau from FF6 was also pretty terrible for a party member, and I never bothered to level with him because I couldn't stand his style of fighting (think beserker, but used the fighting style of monsters).
Stray Cat is one of the first Rages you can get in the Veldt, and it is the only one you need. Gau is almost impossible to fuck up.
 
Nina was annoying as shit in the first half of BoF3, but got better personality wise in part 2.. and then was completely useless because your hero gets healing magic and makes her worthless.

Nina was a pure offensive mage in BoF3 and her spells were super useful.

I'd say Garr is the least good overall party member since he has very little options but Peco would probably be a more popular choice since he contributes little to the plot and starts at Lvl 1, even if you can abuse the Apprentice system to turn him into a monster.
 
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Nina was a pure offensive mage in BoF3 and her spells were super useful.

I'd say Garr is the least good overall party member since he has very little options but Peco would probably be a more popular choice since he contributes little to the plot and starts at Lvl 1, even if you can abuse the Apprentice system to turn him into a monster.

That's right. Momo was the healer in 3. I still didn't use Nina much as magic is.. fine? But really doesn't matter after the angel tower.
 
I like Myles in Wiz8 as a flavor NPC/source of funny one-liners but jesus he SUCKS.
 
Hahn from Phantasy Star 4. I know he both joins and leaves pretty early on but he's worse than useless for the time you're stuck with him.

Though all the optional party characters are useless at the end anyway cuz if you don't pick Raja you're doing it wrong.
Hahn is overall better than gryz, all one of his things to do. Hahn can at least do some spells. gryz is Chaz but with no skills.
 
Clive in Suikoden 2. He's a pretty good party member and great at clearing hordes in the late game. So why is he the worst? of the 108 characters in this game, he's easily the most-often missed, from a once only recruitment event in a specific town during the early game. Meaning you fuck up getting him, and you don't get the "complete" or good Konami ending.
 
Nina was a pure offensive mage in BoF3 and her spells were super useful.

I'd say Garr is the least good overall party member since he has very little options but Peco would probably be a more popular choice since he contributes little to the plot and starts at Lvl 1, even if you can abuse the Apprentice system to turn him into a monster.
One time as part of a challenge I only apprenticed characters to masters that gave bonuses that were opposite to their natural progression. Garr was pretty much the same as normal progression, a brick that hit hard and had poor fire magic, he just had more of it. Other than being able to cast Kyrie more often it wasn't a game changer.

That being said Mage Ryu is fucking awesome, and Nina gets crazy defense very quickly if you boost it. Momo with boosted speed and Shadow Walk is a pretty respectable damage dealer. Peco really doesn't need stats as his function is to put him in the lead with Attack formation, defend every round, and let him counter everything. Rei benefits from additional tankiness very well.
 
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Gryz is also a horrifying Space Furby from Motavia
It's also worth noting his only useful power is tard rage buff. He also misses a lot. But Goddamn his grandad was a baller
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Fallout 2: Myron, Davin/Miria, Pariah Dog, Skynet, and Robodog.

Fallout New Vegas: Veronica (only use her to get into the BoS bunker without doing their bullshit), Follows-Chalk, and Waking Cloud. I like Boone and Lily as characters, but I actually want to play the game and score some kills of my own, and Boone and Lily are a bit OP. Veronica is annoying as fuck, both as a character and because her VA is an obnoxious, disgusting person. I usually roll with ED-E and either Raoul the Old School Ghoul or Arcade Gannon because I love their dialog and they always make me laugh.

Fallout 4: Pretty much all the companions are terrible, but Preston is so terrible that it's become a meme. Next would probably be either Strong, X6-88, and Gage. I like rolling with Paladin Danse, Hancock, or MavCready. I'll roll with Piper or Curie long enough to romance them. Cait I could take or leave. Old Longfellow is OK. When it comes to FO4 I usually play it more like a sandbox with lots of weapon and power armor mods and usually only follow the story missions long enough to access certain areas.
 
Fallout 2: Myron, Davin/Miria, Pariah Dog, Skynet, and Robodog.

Fallout New Vegas: Veronica (only use her to get into the BoS bunker without doing their bullshit), Follows-Chalk, and Waking Cloud. I like Boone and Lily as characters, but I actually want to play the game and score some kills of my own, and Boone and Lily are a bit OP. Veronica is annoying as fuck, both as a character and because her VA is an obnoxious, disgusting person. I usually roll with ED-E and either Raoul the Old School Ghoul or Arcade Gannon because I love their dialog and they always make me laugh.
Myron's a mobile chem factory and nothing more. I want to say he can trigger some funny dialogues here and there that show just how much of a pathetic piece of shit he is, but since I only ever used him to make stimpaks and then dumped him wherever like the greasy nerd he is can't really say for sure

Davin/Miria are pretty much deliberately useless but if you're a real bastard they can trigger some funny shit when they inevitably get mowed down by an enemy

Skynet's actually the best sniper follower in the game if you get the correct brain.

Robodog is the worst of the dog followers (barring Pariah) but I did a Crazy Dog Lady playthrough where I had all 3 dogs and if I could have figured out a way to lower my Luck temporarily to trigger the Pariah encounter it would have been 4 (and the results would have been pretty funny)

The Honest Hearts followers are fairly meh but HH is easy enough to solo even if you go in at or around Clvl10, they're just there for their quests and as window dressing really. Follows-Chalk makes some funny comments (he just makes them so damn often that it gets annoying)

Boone gets absurdly deadly when you give him something like the Gobi rifle (he can't use Christine's rifle IIRC), so yeah if you want your run to be more challenging don't drag him along because he just obliterates most shit before you even see it (this actually caused issues for me when killing the ghoul soldiers to recover dogtags in Searchlight). I never really was able to make Lily work for me, for melee runs I preferred Veronica. I want to like Arcade but at times he sounds more like a Sawyer mouthpiece than an actual character. Raul's fucking great though.
 
Saw that Kaiden is on this list for op while not a bad character spec wise having the most power heavy class in original Mass Effect. He is just boring and has no arc unlike every other party member in the franchise.

aPretty much the entire cast of ff8 was hard to like or generate much interest or goodwill but this faggot
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takes the cake.
Maybe i'm a weeb who likes the music too much but i find the characters fine and really with all the abilities being interchangeable you can't really spec.
 
Myron's a mobile chem factory and nothing more. I want to say he can trigger some funny dialogues here and there that show just how much of a pathetic piece of shit he is, but since I only ever used him to make stimpaks and then dumped him wherever like the greasy nerd he is can't really say for sure

Davin/Miria are pretty much deliberately useless but if you're a real bastard they can trigger some funny shit when they inevitably get mowed down by an enemy

Skynet's actually the best sniper follower in the game if you get the correct brain.

Robodog is the worst of the dog followers (barring Pariah) but I did a Crazy Dog Lady playthrough where I had all 3 dogs and if I could have figured out a way to lower my Luck temporarily to trigger the Pariah encounter it would have been 4 (and the results would have been pretty funny)

The Honest Hearts followers are fairly meh but HH is easy enough to solo even if you go in at or around Clvl10, they're just there for their quests and as window dressing really. Follows-Chalk makes some funny comments (he just makes them so damn often that it gets annoying)

Boone gets absurdly deadly when you give him something like the Gobi rifle (he can't use Christine's rifle IIRC), so yeah if you want your run to be more challenging don't drag him along because he just obliterates most shit before you even see it (this actually caused issues for me when killing the ghoul soldiers to recover dogtags in Searchlight). I never really was able to make Lily work for me, for melee runs I preferred Veronica. I want to like Arcade but at times he sounds more like a Sawyer mouthpiece than an actual character. Raul's fucking great though.

Arcade and Raoul are both snarky smart-asses, and I really enjoy that kind of companion character. Raoul is great to have around because your kit degrades slower with him in your party, even if you have ED-E in the party as well and have upgraded him with the Lonesome Road upgrades since ED-E can only repair weapons, and then only one per day. I tend to build projectile weapons characters and enjoy having a wide variety of weapons of all kinds (guns, energy, and explosive) and tend to favor things like the gatling laser, K9000 cyberdog gun and FIDO, the shoulder mounted machine gun, Mercy, etc., and I like being able to craft the better ammo like 5mm JSP, .44 Mag SWC, and the more powerful ECPs and MFCs, but they always degrade the weapon you load them with, so it's nice to have Raoul to slow that down and ED-E to keep them in top tune.

Arcade is great to have at least until you can get the Enclave armor suits, if nothing else. But I enjoy his sharp wit and his snarkiness. He's not the best combat companion, but he's fun to have around when just roaming and doing non-combat quests.

I really would have loved it if they had made Marcus available as a companion again, both for FO2 nostalgia and because I really like Michael Dorn. It would have been cool if they had made is so that once you got things settled in Jacobstown and maybe Black Mountain he would have made himself available to partner with. He could have told the Courier stories about being in the Master's army and traveling with the Chosen One. I would have loved to have Dr. 0 from Old World Blues as a companion, but that's mostly because I'm a big Venture Bros. fan and James Urbaniak voiced both Dr. 0 in OWB and Doctor Venture in the Venture Bros.
 
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Cait Sith has been said but I like to remind people that beyond his "annoyance" he blackmails you by taking Marlene and Aeris' mom hostage and has a real underwhelming arc that completely forgets he did nothing for Sector 7. Like many side characters in ff7 he really gets worse the more you think about him.
 
Maybe i'm a weeb who likes the music too much but i find the characters fine and really with all the abilities being interchangeable you can't really spec.
I never really liked ff8 even as a kid. Pretty much everything I could wheel out has been said but It does seem a marmite game.
 
Lowe from Shining Force. Get into the legendary Shining Force by virtue of being your friend and is a healer which is the worst class in the series made even worse by starting as a level 1. He does 1 hp of damage with his attacks and his skill can easily be replaced by medicinal herbs.
Lowe gets a semi-pass because at least he's useful until you run out of MP, or get the other healer options and etc.

Now. . .Jogurt. There's a joke character.
Someone doesn't know about the glory of Azama
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yeah at 10/1 he's got some bullshit strength. Shame most of his class options are middling.

still, i'd think that he's useful on the virtue of just being someone you promote at level 10 and be done with it.
 
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