Would you rather be stuck in a forest with a bear or a man? - aka Debate user doodoocaca on the validity of rape victims

[Bonesjones]

But I'm not pushing the idea that all women should have a pet scrote.

Really not helping your case bud

You don't ever defend shitbulls all over this website.

Yeah its my fault you can't think beyond the media you consume and can't even begin to imagine how terrible wild animal attack are.

You either refuse or are completely unable to take responsibility for yourself. You've got a victim fetish that is disgusting as your skin.

 

[Übertroon]

Then why are attacks by wild animals exceptionally rare while humans attacking humans is not?

Most wild animals, including bears, instinctively avoid humans.

You likely live in a urban or semi urban area. This means you encounter hundreds of men each time you step outside, if not thousands. You will never encounter a bear. If we were to replace all the men in your morning commute with bears then the number of bear attacks would dramatically increase.

 

[Android raptor]

You don't ever defend shitbulls all over this website.

Yeah its my fault you can't think beyond the media you consume and can't even begin to imagine how terrible wild animal attack are.

I can imagine, I also realize you're way less likely to be attacked by a wild animal than a human since even large predators just want to be left alone and for humans to stay away from them most of the time (same).

Meanwhile humans are the ones doing shit like kidnapping baby monkeys to torture them so they can jerk off to it.

You likely live in a urban or semi urban area. This means you encounter hundreds of men each time you step outside, if not thousands. You will never encounter a bear. If we were to replace all the men in your morning commute with bears then the number of bear attacks would dramatically increase.

Doesn't appear to be that way in the smokies where some people see bears every day (including some who are probably rural enough to see more bears than people).

 

[Bonesjones]

I can imagine, I also realize you're way less likely to be attacked by a wild animal than a human since even large predators just want to be left alone and for humans to stay away from them most of the time (same).

Meanwhile humans are the ones doing shit like kidnapping baby monkeys to torture them so they can jerk off to it.

Doesn't appear to be that way in the smokies where some people see bears every day (including some who are probably rural enough to see more bears than people).

Its that way because we made it that way you daffy cunt. There were constant bear attacks in the pioneer days until they shot all the aggressive ones.

We did the same to people until dumb cunt worms for brains like you stopped us. You are literally a more dangerous animal than most animals because you enable attacks through your own misguided empathy.

Again and again your broken brain mistakes outliers for representation. You have no thought process just an overloaded anxiety filter that can't seperate your own thoughts from reality.

You are a misery addict that hyperfocuses on the worst information you can find so you can apply it to everything and everyone.

So tell me out of over 6 billion people you assume the behavior of several hundred represents all of them. How does that make sense compared to bears? Even the worst psycho-sexual sadistic serial killers only ever did it to a handful of people but interacted with tens to hundreds of thousands of strangers in their lives. Also the toybox killers were just bdsm fanatics and they never even proved he killed anyone. So again you let your fetishes override your own judgement.

You should really get hobbies instead of feeding your own worse impulses. You'd be happier and healthier.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

I can imagine, I also realize you're way less likely to be attacked by a wild animal than a human since even large predators just want to be left alone and for humans to stay away from them most of the time (same).

You're a fucking idiot

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/04/bear-attacks-record-high-japan-why-hibernation-delay-hunger

Sankebetsu brown bear incident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America?wprov=sfla1

Meanwhile humans are the ones doing shit like kidnapping baby monkeys to torture them so they can jerk off to it.

Says the freak that jerks off to photos of retarded kids and still births while fantasying how they want to torture and see dead fetuses.

 

[sleeperagent]

None wants to be stuck all alone with a black man so bear for me

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

None wants to be stuck all alone with a black man so bear for me

I wonder how many would back track if you make the choice between a black man or bear just so they won't appear racist.

It's the abortion question all over again. Abortions for all but once you narrow it down and say there's going to be a policy of aborting downs, fags and other mentally unwell then it's "muh sacred life" from the pro-choice crowd.

 

[Felis Meanis]

The curious thing about this retarded meme is that the women who actually ponders the question seriously should never be under the impression that any man would ever pounce on them given the chance, on account of the immense unsightliness of these harlots.

 

[We Are The Witches]

I love how men asspained about this shit are reacting by openly having violent fantasies about women being eaten by bears, totally not reinforcing the bear actually being the safer choice or anything.

So your argument is that because I'm describing what a bear could realistically do to a human, which I've seen in images before so I know it's very possible, means that I'm fantasizing about it & therefore making men in general seem like a more threatening choice.

You are obviously retarded and incapable of anything other than fallacious bullshit.

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Funnily enough, today I had someone tell me a story about how their father went fishing one day and they suddenly saw a bear in the distance, his aftermath comment was: "I don't know who was more scared at that instant, if the bear or me".

However for this scenario, if you assume the bear is going to be left near you, it might get instinctively aggressive due to thinking you're an imminent threat because of the proximity.

If the bear (or man) is not left near you, so like a long distance away, somewhere in the forest, the man is still the safest choice because chances are you'll escape that place before you encounter the bear/human. The bear is also better equipped to track you down if it's hungry, in that scenario.

 

[George Lucas]

Isn’t it true that when you get thrown into a survival situation sex goes out the window? A man can help you escape the forest. A bear can’t. It’s a simple question.

Or is it the opposite? Does hypothermia and hunger make you horny?

 

[Crypto Six Gorillionaire]

I saw an interesting reply to this dilemma, that women say they choose the bear because they actually want men to be more dangerous, that men today are too docile. After all you wouldn't constantly, unceasingly antagonise a category of people who were truly dangerous, whereas castigating men as a whole is very safe and socially acceptable behaviour. So long as it isn't the socioeconomic categories of men who actually do the lion's (bear's?) share of the raping.

Perhaps it is women who never developed beyond the stone age.

 

[Overly Serious]

Again all this does is show your own socialized predetermined thought processes. You don't fear bears because you are extremely unlikely to ever have to deal with them. So you haven't been primed to immediately feel anxiety about them. You have a rational fear of large dangerous and capable of violent animal that if you were put around would instinctually fear and probably have no idea how to deal with. Compared to a random male where you are constantly primed to have as a source of anxiety due to constant bombardment by the news, media, etc.

This isn't a thought experiment of anything except how emotionally and logically retarded people are. With no other social pressures humans default to cooperating with each other being tribal animals, so why would a random person's first instinct be to attack you? That's a figment of social pressure implanted into you by society and not reflective of actual human nature.

You've missed my point spectacularly by selectively quoting a couple of lines with it. I'll make it simpler.

1. Fear makes people irrational - we are often more influenced by society and instincts than we realise.
2. Women are more likely subject to such a fear response at the idea of being alone with a man they don't know than a man is. For obvious reasons.
3. A way a man might find himself subject to the same fear is as in the example I posted, where his daughter is swapped in to the role in place of himself.

This insight is valuable because it can help a man understand better the underlying differences between perceptions.

You will likely now reply about how female perspective is still irrational once again demonstrating you either don't understand my point or that you feel you must be the one to make it.

I wonder how many would back track if you make the choice between a black man or bear just so they won't appear racist.

It's the abortion question all over again. Abortions for all but once you narrow it down and say there's going to be a policy of aborting downs, fags and other mentally unwell then it's "muh sacred life" from the pro-choice crowd.

We have thought the same thing I'll just leave this comment from myself earlier:

But here's an interesting thing. This is primarily a North American selection of respondents? What if you changed the question to "Would you rather be stuck in a forest with a Black man or a bear?" Guarantee, if you discounted those simply refusing to answer, it would shift markedly away from bear even though Black men are a subset of men. And not even one with a statistical reason to suppose they're less likely to rape you. Logic is not at work here.

Isn’t it true that when you get thrown into a survival situation sex goes out the window? A man can help you escape the forest. A bear can’t. It’s a simple question.

Or is it the opposite? Does hypothermia and hunger make you horny?

Hunger suppresses sexual desire in men (unless you've been over-eating a lot and we're just talking about getting back to a healthier balance). Hypothermia does not make one horny. However, I would imagine scarcity and danger can induce more sexual receptivity in women and loss and grief can too sometimes.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

If we were to replace all the men in your morning commute with bears

Most bears aren't really into women though, they prefer twinks, chubs and other bears.

Also why is it spelled bear and not baer? The second one is more like the Germanic root word and pronunciation.

 

[Otterly]

It’s just too broad a question.
What kind of bear?
How hungry is the bear?
How big is the forest?
What kind of man?
What are the man’s intentions?
What time of year is it?
Am I armed?

There’s a big difference between bear hibernation season with a serial killer stalking you (choose bear) and Joe from the office who is probably just going to be as bewildered as you are by finding himself in the woods with a hungry grizzly (choose man.)

 

[God of Nothing]

It’s just too broad a question.

it really isn't
a person can be reasoned with
a person is considerably more vulnerable than a bear if you must defend yourself
a person can help you survive while the bear will eat your corpse when you die of dehydration or infection
a person is less likely to be familiar with the terrain than a bear

even if the man in this scenario wanted to kill you and was wearing full body armor, you are more likely to survive against him because he needs to sleep and that shit gets hot
you can stab his throat with a stick where a bear will probably take the moment to do this

there is no conceivable scenario in which you are more likely to survive against something shooting in the head isn't guaranteed to even knock out, much less kill
this is the stupidest obvious question in existence

 

[okay?]

Oh shit a thread for me!!! Powerlevel I've been beaten by men and attacked by animals. CHOOSE THE BEAR CHOOSE THE BEAR CHOOSE THE BEAR - RATHER VE EATEN BY BEAR FOR SUSTINENC4 NATURALLY THAN DISMEMBERED AND THROWN IN A BIN BY WAYWARD HUMAN MALE ANY DAY FUCKING IDIOTS

 

[Übertroon]

Oh shit a thread for me!!! Powerlevel I've been beaten by men and attacked by animals. CHOOSE THE BEAR CHOOSE THE BEAR CHOOSE THE BEAR - RATHER VE EATEN BY BEAR FOR SUSTINENC4 NATURALLY THAN DISMEMBERED AND THROWN IN A BIN BY WAYWARD HUMAN MALE ANY DAY FUCKING IDIOTS

A tale as old as time

 

[Otterly]

it really isn't

I ask because when I’ve been asked this kind of stuff before and gone ‘well, man, bears will eat you’ the person has done something like ‘NUH-UH ITS AKSHUALLY AN SAS TRAINED KILLER OUT TO GET YOI VERSUS A FLUFFY WEEK OLD BEAR CUB DONT YOU FEEL STUPID!’
The answer is man, unless there are stupid caveats, like the man is a trained killer out to get you and the bear is a fluffy baby, etc.

 

[God of Nothing]

I ask because when I’ve been asked this kind of stuff before and gone ‘well, man, bears will eat you’ the person has done something like ‘NUH-UH ITS AKSHUALLY AN SAS TRAINED KILLER OUT TO GET YOI VERSUS A FLUFFY WEEK OLD BEAR CUB DONT YOU FEEL STUPID!’
The answer is man, unless there are stupid caveats, like the man is a trained killer out to get you and the bear is a fluffy baby, etc.

if it really were that kind of hypothetical, it wouldn't have ever become this much of a topic
the point of it was to showcase what modern women think about men
and it seems most unironically think a bear is less dangerous than a man, which is probably the most delusional sentiment i have ever heard in my entire life

a video i recently watched on this subject asked whether women were stupid or lying and he went with the latter because he still had faith in humanity
it's the former and the latter at the same time, but it's mostly the former because it's a really stupid lie

 

[Tago Mago]

Plot twist: The bear wasn't a bear, it was Bear Grylls