Wtf is wrong with zoomers? - An analysis

[SomethingWittyandBadass]

Can anyone here (maybe someone who is a zoomer) explain why Gen Z is so obsessed with identifying as their generation? I’m a millennial and nobody wears “millennial” as something they’re proud of or particular care about, or did when we were younger either. As a teenager the only time I ever thought about what generation I was was in a civics class when we talked about what the different generations were and how it’s basically just a marketing thing (at that time we were still called “Gen Y” or “echo boom”, being the children of the baby boomers). But all the kids you see on TikTok and whatever talk about being Gen Z and take pride in the stereotypes about them constantly. (I also don’t remember hating and making fun of everyone older than me like they do, if anything a lot of people wished they were older/did the “born in the wrong generation” thing and pretended to be older online.)

only thing I can think is that they were pushed hyper-identifying with labels for race, sexuality, etc so hard that they felt the need to make an identity around their age group as well?

Zoomer here; Born in 1995.

The idea of identifying is kinda nuance, because at one side you have actual people who actually have disabilities, mental issues, and so much more towards those identities and the other side are those who are clearly trying to get some form of statement under the way. It used to be honestly something so simple; you were gay? cool. You were bi? Okay. But, during the age of tumblr, that was when the Queer community really was just accepting anyone for the fuck of it because in reality; people were fucking scared to show themselves. Which is fine. But it got worse because the suburbian parents who were gungho on trying to make sure they love their kid 24/7, just bought into anything they liked. From Otherkin shit to something stupid as a "political lesbian", the parents were just trying to be parents. They want their kid to be happy and not be a suicide kid or a kid who never called them back because they didn't approve of the lifestyle choice that they made.

Biggest mistake in the world is basically catering to a child's wants and not their needs.

But also, I have to honestly blame goth and emo shit because they made it out to be that you have to be this angry nobody, mad at Jack and Jill on the hill. When in reality; there was no one on the hill to be mad at because the angry nobody was already on top of the hill.

 

[YungMetro]

The retards who keep making these masturbatory posts about le zoomers are incredibly narrow minded and arrogant, zoomers aren't any more retarded than millenials were back when MySpace existed, lolcows, idiots, narcissists and sociopaths have existed since the dawn of time, it's not a new phenonemon spearheaded by Isabella Janke like so many of you out-of-touch gen X'ers try to convince yourself it is

 

[GHTD]

I blame mental illness, stupid trends (goth/emo shit), and being catered to 24/7 even when having the most shitty of ideas, coming from a zoomer here (1995). I find it so hard to connect with people my age because they're all this narcissistic, egotistical shit that thinks this "YOU WILL ACCEPT MY IDEA WITHOUT CONTEXT OR YOU'RE A BIGOT" crap. If I want to accept or reject an idea, I want to know more, I don't want to just blindly accept something because everyone else is. Like one time I tried to ask a trans person how I can be a better supporter of them and they immediately lashed out at me for being transphobic for offering "fake support", this is the type of shit I'm talking about. Maybe stop being such a closed minded generation and people will take you seriously.

 

[Banh Xeo]

GAS THE KIDS, AGEWAR NOW

 

[Three Halves]

My neighbor is in his 60s and was telling me how he's noticed that there's "a lot of blacks on TV" the other day.

I was just like oh sure, there's a lot of inclusivity drives going on, and then exited the conversation as quickly and politely as possible before it spiralled out of control.

So in 30-40 years that will be me with zoomers and whatever the crap the next generation are called. I'll be bitching about genderfluid people, people with ear gauges, and dog fuckers over the fence at them. They'll be the ones rolling their eyes and trying to get away as fast as possible. Probably to get back to fucking their dogs.

I hope euthanasia is more accessible by that point.

 

[PeggieBigCock]

Zoomer here; Born in 1995.

If you can remember 9/11 you’re not a zoomer, you’re a late Millennial

 

[Fareal]

Another stick to throw on the fire: the poor zoomers are the first generation that were almost exclusively helicopter parented. Their schedules were filled with Improving Structured Activities and they had less undirected free time and less freedom outside the house than previous generations.

It is a well established phenomenon in higher education that kids routinely wash up into university who have never travelled alone to their place of education or done their own washing or routinely cooked for themselves. They are sent to us singularly lacking in the ability to organise themselves; not because they are in any way dumb but because they have been absolutely overparented. It is notable that if you are their personal adviser, they will routinely bring you letters of a formal/personal nature to... to be told what to do about them? I have been brought parking tickets, letters about bank overdrafts, medical correspondence - a variety of things that it dawned on me, another adult in their life routinely handled.

It's probably going to be worse for kids who are small now and being raised by millennials, because millennial parents are fucking insane with anxiety and are attachment parenting 24/7.

 

[Rotollo 2]

Too many fidget spinners and not enough fortnite dances makes Bella a Cringe Zoom

 

[Davis O'Shaughnessy]

As i see it, the Bella situation opened up the farms for the next genration of zoomer lolcows and their retarded drama. It's hard to put the finger on it, but there are completly new ways of failing at life displayed here and it got me thinking:
Maybe it's time for a new zoomer sub-forum , call it "kiddie pool" or some shit, because i have the sneaking suspicion that there will be many more terminally online, young discord weirdos popping up in the next months.

Just an idea, as this board is probably bound to become less focused over time when more people get involved.

 

[Spooky Bones]

When the Bella situation and general fallout from the incest tapes scandal calms down, and it already has to some degree relative to a week ago, agree entirely that this board could lose focus and go strange places. GiBi and Espeon are already major topics here (as they should be) and their threads are here for now at least because most of the interest as of now relates to their connections to Bella and the scandal more generally. But if/when focus is totally lost whether to close the board or repurpose it is a discussion staff will have to have but input is good to have, so carry on

 

[Greasy Spoon]

The retards who keep making these masturbatory posts about le zoomers are incredibly narrow minded and arrogant, zoomers aren't any less retarded than millenials were back when MySpace existed, lolcows, idiots, narcissists and sociopaths have existed since the dawn of time, it's not a new phenonemon spearheaded by Isabella Janke like so many of you out-of-touch gen X'ers try to convince yourself it is

That's true but in practice boomers shat on gen x, gen x shat on millennials, now millennials are shitting on zoomers. No-one likes getting shat on but it's their turn now and the least they could do is take it on the chin in good humor. Being little pissbabies about it just makes it worse, if you can't laugh at yourself everyone else will more than make up for it.

It is a well established phenomenon in higher education that kids routinely wash up into university who have never travelled alone to their place of education or done their own washing or routinely cooked for themselves. They are sent to us singularly lacking in the ability to organise themselves; not because they are in any way dumb but because they have been absolutely overparented. It is notable that if you are their personal adviser, they will routinely bring you letters of a formal/personal nature to... to be told what to do about them? I have been brought parking tickets, letters about bank overdrafts, medical correspondence - a variety of things that it dawned on me, another adult in their life routinely handled.

Something something mom gave me a ride both ways uphill in the snow something something.

My neighbor is in his 60s and was telling me how he's noticed that there's "a lot of blacks on TV" the other day.

I was just like oh sure, there's a lot of inclusivity drives going on, and then exited the conversation as quickly and politely as possible before it spiralled out of control.

The alternative could be to ask him wtf he means exactly? There are plenty of people that would take you writing off the success of 'blacks' in media as the result of 'inclusivity drives' (dog whistle: affirmative action/equity bad) to be just as racist as whatever old-school racism your neighbor was presumably going to say. There's no winning with those types, so you might as well just do and say what you want.

 

[Neb Flanber]

As far as I see it, a lot of discourse that zoomers would end up having here have already basically happened. Like, some of the shit people have speculated on in this board like Bella and Fiona being the same person or what TTU should do have been as divisive as people's views on the farms as a whole, so regardless of how many zoomers end up tainting this board there'll need to be at the very least a review on the kinda shit people are arguing about here, at least in my opinion.

 

[David L. Heilberg]

Having a subforum just for zoomers seems redundant. Using tags would do the same job for the most part.

While a discord subforum could be proposed, I feel like most of the autism isn’t contained to just one platform (for the most part), unlike something like tumblr back in the the day.

But if/when focus is totally lost whether to close the board or repurpose it is a discussion staff will have to have but input is good to have, so carry on

I’m interested in hearing your thoughts on what the fate of this board should be.

 

[Spooky Bones]

I’m interested into hearing your thoughts on what the fate of this board should be.

I would like to talk to other staff before I get too much into this as it ultimately is in no way my decision. I didn't even ask for mod and don't real want it still but in some way it is my just punishment for stirring shit lol. But I would like to see the forum repurposed in some way. I'll leave it at that for now.

 

[Three Halves]

The alternative could be to ask him wtf he means exactly?

Sure, I could have, but my point was more that every generation has outdated points of view and feel like the next generation just don't get it. Less "look how amazing I am at handling awkward situations!!".

 

[Poops]

I don't see what the need is for an entire Zoomer subforum.
Obviously as the Zoomer gen is getting older, and general fuckery on places like Discord and other niche communities that attract Zoomers, we've all seen firsthand how fucked some of them can be. Also if you took the Dream thread on Internet Famous for example, it's like 30% Dream and 70% his insane Zoomer fans.

While I do agree with @David L. Heilberg 's idea of a tag for now, as the farms grows older and has had a huge spike in popularity since the merge, I'm certain there's going to be a lot more lolcows of all ages popping up, and I don't think it would matter how they're sorted so long as we get a consistent stream of content [from them].

 

[transcendental vintologi]

I think this is mostly right but the angle it's coming from bugs me. The majority of human sexual dimorphism is on the female end. No other known species is as dimorphic as humans; in nearly every other mammal species the difference amounts to testosterone making males a little bit bigger, but females are almost always quite close in physical ability.
What humanity has done in its divergence from being mere animal is relegate our women to the role of sexual objects. Men being better geared for physical labour isn't dimorphism. It's that we already shifted women out of that role millennia ago 'cos their societal value was better making babies, and from there the only traits that matter (excepting wide pelvises for our giant baby heads) are what facilitate attraction. Always-on tiddies don't even do anything but denote "this person is a baby-maker," and we've always been coomers.

Most "masculine"-leaning women are merely opting out of feminine societal constructs
But with men it's more a mix of opting-out of masculine constructs and chasing fetishism for themselves.
It gets a bit deeper but that's all I've got time for right now.

You have a point. This is probably why the sexual revolution only seems to have accelerated the sexualization of women. It isn't a completely "progressive" process. Really, technocapitalism doesn't care about morality or ideology. As things stand now, there is too much of a market around sex for this aspect of sexual dimorphism to be abstracted. Maybe it never will. I sometimes speculate about what would happen with the proliferation of sex bots (some form of them are commercially sold, but the technology is very primitive now). If you could get an arbitrarily lascivious slave, the importance of specifically normal human women as sex objects could diminish. Similarly, the importance of women as baby makers would probably diminish if artificial wombs were ever a thing (as a tangent, I am not sure if such a thing should be seriously attempted. The symbiosis between infant and mother might be much more important than what it seems on the surface. I recall for instance that first language acquisition could technically count as starting in the womb). That's all very speculative though.

But yeah we underestimate how coomer this species is. Our massive dick sizes and facial neoteny compared to other primates should elicit warning bells (not that this nature should be necessarily affirmed. When incels bring up statistics regarding subjective attractiveness versus age, the real problem isn't merely the validity of the source, but why it is important). I guess just the nature of sexuality will always drag flesh humans into it. Like "breeding" and this idealized regression to animalistic instinct is a fetish some people have, which probably wouldn't be easily fulfilled with a robot. A possible counter to this would be that certain fetishes have the origin in ideological grounds (e.g. BBC being ultimately grounded in racial stereotypes of black men), but even then... Reproduction might be too much of a terminal goal for it to altogether vanish from our thought.

Do you think people who aren’t mentally deranged are on Twitter? You could make the same statement about literally any group of people if you judge by what you see on Twitter.

What qualification would I even need to make? Developing an interest in religion is not going to make you perfect Christian? It won’t cure somebody instantly of their unhealthy obsession with pornography and politics? Reactionaries on Twitter aren’t representative of all people?



Again, these people aren’t really representative of religious beliefs. It’s like asking my grandfather to tell me about China. In terms of YouTube intellectuals, there are plenty of actually religious people who are capable of ‘defending the faith’, as it were, without the need to rely on depressed agnostic nihilists.

I wasn't saying religion can't be helpful, but it should be qualified with an emphasis on it needing to be genuine. Sorry if I didn't write that clear. On religious people capable of defending their faith, what do you think about the Neo-Thomist revival?

 

[Greasy Spoon]

Sure, I could have, but my point was more that every generation has outdated points of view and feel like the next generation just don't get it. Less "look how amazing I am at handling awkward situations!!".

Yeah that's spot on, there's always been an entire generation above that want to sound off, and it's the same old generational clichés every time (which is very tedious on an interpersonal level). I'm a hypocrite for playing my part in saying zoomers are pissbabies and can't handle awkward situations even if it's true lol

 

[Hot HOT HOTTT]

My opinion is that not only would consolidating and moving all things ILJ be too much of a janitorial hassle, it would also not do justice to the sheer amount of stuff that has been discovered. I may of course be biased in this because I have been combing the shit with finer teeth than most, but the sheer magnitude of information that has been uncovered has transcended what could be adequately added to CWC's section, and would be diluted by the addition of every minor sperg Zoomer on the internet.

Furthermore, I don't see the advent of Zoomers as being some distinct chapter in online stupidity and Lolcowism. I see it as more of a slightly different flavor of an ongoing trend.

This isn't to say that a Zoomer tag isn't appropriate for some terminally online youngsters, or that this subforum should exist in the current state in perpetuity. I just don't see a better alternative at the moment, and I also feel that while discoveries have slowed, this story isn't over yet and we as plebs and perhaps the staff as well may have a clearer view in a month or so as to what may be the best way forward.

Either way, I'm still hoping for more milk and I'm glad to be following this story.

 

[Hurgle Blurk]

Something that people frequently overlook is that this is a generation that grew up in an environment where they were never allowed to have any hope that the future would be as good as, let alone better than, the present. They have spent their entire lives being reminded, at every turn, that they are doomed.*

Quite honestly, it's a wonder Zoomers aren't worse. I won't be surprised if, sometime in the next decade, you see a resurgence of reactionary idealism focusing on a mythologized past of the sort that came about after World War I.

*Yes, Boomers grew up in the shadow of global thermonuclear war, but they were adults by the time the real consequences of one became public knowledge. And, they had the promise of the Nuclear Future (and, then, the Age of Aquarius and a lot of very good cocaine) to help balance it out.