Xbox Game Studios Stupidity Hate Thread Game Pass Edition

[Baraka Obama]

Some of you seem pretty down on the idea of consoles as a thing.

I could see an argument that like the PC replacing typewriters and drafting tables, or like smartphones replacing iPods and point-and-shoot digital cameras, consoles are an outdated concept that will simply disappear.

The question I would ask, then, is why now? Back in 2011 I thought it was nutty that anyone would continue buying or playing on consoles when you could get a relatively cheap PC with any nvidia or amd chip and get 1080p/60fps/16XAF/no-frame-tearing on almost every Xbox 360 / PS3 game. And play them with a controller. And just plug in HDMI to play on a TV. And run Wii games on your PC to boot. It's a no brainer.

And yet we're 13 years on from that and consoles seem more popular than ever? In spite of there being fewer exclusives than ever. Compared to the 2011 landscape, you also no longer have cheap PCs outdoing consoles.

Why now?

People seem to like having a box under their TV for games.

I've been waiting for AAA to die for a long time; I believe they will re-tool, re-target on 50% of the top end budgets and dev times they aim for now and come back swinging.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Da Fuck are you talking about? 3 to 4 million in total sales is a MASSIVE FLOP in modern gaming.

The cope response, I believe, was that the majority of Starfield SALES were the deluxe version so people were paying possibly 100 dollars or more on the game to play it a week early.

It's why that rumor about Call of Duty getting week early multiplayer access exclusively on Xbox in the future became a thing.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

You could barely even see the chick in the original. At least you can still see the lady now instead of a low res picture of her.

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The point is they said content would not be changed and they lied.

 

[Michael Wade]

Do the leaks say Halo coming to ps5? I know the big message is Gears but what about the master chief collection?

 

[whatever I feel like]

If they really want to cut costs they need to get rid of mo-cap, full voice acting and celebrity VAs and up the use of AI, like lighting and vegetation placement but also for QA and non-key level design in open worlds.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Do the leaks say Halo coming to ps5? I know the big message is Gears but what about the master chief collection?

Most of the leaks I've seen indicate Sea of Thieves, Grounded, Pentiment and Hi Fi Rush.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Xbox games on PS5
PS5 games on PC
PC games on Xbox?

Xbox becomes the PC/Steambox of the living room where you can also play PS5 games, check mate Sony?

 

[TheHarbinger]

Xbox becomes the PC/Steambox of the living room where you can also play PS5 games, check mate Sony?

If the games are Starfield quality then who even cares anymore? A bad game released on every possible platform is still a bad game no matter how easily accessible it is. A high quality game that is exclusive to one platform might be enough to move significant numbers of hardware. Which direction do you think Microsoft and SONY are going in right now?

 

[DocAwe]

I'd like windows 11 Xbox edition or something like it.
Just let me turn my Series X|S into a full blown PC.

 

[Pissmaster]

Some of you seem pretty down on the idea of consoles as a thing.

I could see an argument that like the PC replacing typewriters and drafting tables, or like smartphones replacing iPods and point-and-shoot digital cameras, consoles are an outdated concept that will simply disappear.

The question I would ask, then, is why now? Back in 2011 I thought it was nutty that anyone would continue buying or playing on consoles when you could get a relatively cheap PC with any nvidia or amd chip and get 1080p/60fps/16XAF/no-frame-tearing on almost every Xbox 360 / PS3 game. And play them with a controller. And just plug in HDMI to play on a TV. And run Wii games on your PC to boot. It's a no brainer.

And yet we're 13 years on from that and consoles seem more popular than ever? In spite of there being fewer exclusives than ever. Compared to the 2011 landscape, you also no longer have cheap PCs outdoing consoles.

Why now?

People seem to like having a box under their TV for games.

I've been waiting for AAA to die for a long time; I believe they will re-tool, re-target on 50% of the top end budgets and dev times they aim for now and come back swinging.

I think the kind of people who post on internet forums are a lot more likely to be PC gamers, just, well, due to how we use our computers to socialize. Consoles are the way non-technical people experience modern games. Even aside from physical games, consoles still have a number of perks that PC users don't get. I never see people discuss how consoles don't have all the trouble with launchers that PC players have to put up with. Ubisoft's stupid launcher is terrible, and that big update to The Witcher 3 added a brand new one that wasn't there before. And of course, Microsoft Store games are especially a hassle with their strange method of installing, making it so you can't launch them through Steam, and of course, Linux is out.

Minecraft's not coming to Steam anytime soon. Fortnite will never be on Steam. It took years and years for EA to start putting their games back on Steam, after removing them for years, and only recently has Blizzard listed their games on Steam. But only brand new ones. And your battle.net purchases don't carry over. It's all a mess.

Not to mention, I think another big component of the console gaming space is being able to watch TV, be it through streaming services or stuff from your hard drive, and there's really not a controller-friendly way to do all that on a PC. Steam doesn't have any streaming apps, but consoles do. And have you ever tried to use a PC's web browser on a big living room TV set? Have fun navigating a tiny cursor all around, and Lord help you if you don't have a trackpad.

 

[Michael Wade]

Most of the leaks I've seen indicate Sea of Thieves, Grounded, Pentiment and Hi Fi Rush.

Eh that's lame. No wonder they didn't announce anything. Although one place said they had an extra game lined up.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Eh that's lame. No wonder they didn't announce anything. Although one place said they had an extra game lined up.

I mean, these are just rumors and "leaks" so who knows? But it seems like the type of "past it's prime" stuff they'd throw to Playstation.

And have you ever tried to use a PC's web browser on a big living room TV set? Have fun navigating a tiny cursor all around, and Lord help you if you don't have a trackpad.

That's funny, I find trying to use a controller or remote to watch anything to be far more cumbersome than my mouse and keyboard. And I grew up with consoles and television.

Then again, I absolutely loath smart TV's so maybe that's why.

 

[Michael Wade]

I mean, these are just rumors and "leaks" so who knows? But it seems like the type of "past it's prime" stuff they'd throw to Playstation.

Yeah but they are running gears and halo into the dirt

 

[Super Hans v2]

Not to mention, I think another big component of the console gaming space is being able to watch TV, be it through streaming services or stuff from your hard drive, and there's really not a controller-friendly way to do all that on a PC. Steam doesn't have any streaming apps, but consoles do. And have you ever tried to use a PC's web browser on a big living room TV set? Have fun navigating a tiny cursor all around, and Lord help you if you don't have a trackpad.

That's exactly what I'm doing right now, siting in a comfy chair and watching MATI while finishing a EU4 session on the big screen. The tiny bit of effort that it cost me to set it up compared to plugging in a PS5 is well worth how much more capable it is.

 

[Pissmaster]

That's exactly what I'm doing right now, siting in a comfy chair and watching MATI while finishing a EU4 session on the big screen. The tiny bit of effort that it cost me to set it up compared to plugging in a PS5 is well worth how much more capable it is.

You and I are tech savvy enough to set up a computer to a TV, enlarge the mouse cursor, get a nice trackpad, set up scaling so that all the elements and text are nice and big for the TV, but is Joe Fucko?

 

[Super Hans v2]

You and I are tech savvy enough to set up a computer to a TV, enlarge the mouse cursor, get a nice trackpad, set up scaling so that all the elements and text are nice and big for the TV, but is Joe Fucko?

If Joe Fucko can set up a console, they can do that too if denied a choice and was forced to try. The only difference between the two if you get a prebuilt is that you have to get a decent storefront manually, but if you're a niggercattle retard there's always the Xbox app.

 

[The Pulverizer]

also called them out on them trying to associate Palworld's success with them and them only.

Yeah they're so desperate for a successful game that they're willing to put a game they didn't even publish in their portofolio. They're doing the same thing with all of their acquisitions now too.

So Aspyr promised the Tomb Raider games would be untouched yet one guy's jacket (which had a nude woman on it) has been given a red bikini. They lied.

They didn't nerf Laura and they gave you a photo mode which allows you to make her pose in yoga pants. What more could you ask for?

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

And yet we're 13 years on from that and consoles seem more popular than ever? In spite of there being fewer exclusives than ever. Compared to the 2011 landscape, you also no longer have cheap PCs outdoing consoles.

Why now?

While I couldn't say whether consoles are going to die or not, there are some big differences compared to the console market in 2011. You've got multiple different specs for the same console at launch, there's always the possibility of a "Pro" version on the horizon, console games now come with graphics options that let you emphasize either performance or fidelity, and patches have gone from a relatively minor thing to massive day-one patches for every single game. Plus Xbox and Playstation have used standard x86 stuff since 2014 (and even the Switch uses a standard ARM SoC), so there's no longer a custom hardware barrier.

Consoles continue to get more complex, demand more technical knowledge from the owner, and stray further from their pick-up-and-play roots. Eventually there must be an inflection point where even the normiest normie will realize they're just buying a gimped PC. As @DocAwe mentioned, Microsoft allowing Windows to be installed on an Xbox and used for general purpose computing would be yet another watershed moment in the inexorable unification of consoles and PCs.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

If the games are Starfield quality then who even cares anymore? A bad game released on every possible platform is still a bad game no matter how easily accessible it is. A high quality game that is exclusive to one platform might be enough to move significant numbers of hardware. Which direction do you think Microsoft and SONY are going in right now?

I agree and MS and Sony are going down the shitter because the console industry is contracting back to 2010 levels. This is throwing them to "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" mode.

It isn't going well.

I'd like windows 11 Xbox edition or something like it.
Just let me turn my Series X|S into a full blown PC.

I don't understand why microsoft don't do this? Put all of their games on Gamepass and use Gamepass as a storefront to rival steam. Free games, EA support, access to PS5 games through the PC loophole, it could be used for emulation...

I never see people discuss how consoles don't have all the trouble with launchers that PC players have to put up with.

Laziness on behalf of PC players. If a storefront is not customer friendly, then pirate the game.

I mean, these are just rumors and "leaks" so who knows? But it seems like the type of "past it's prime" stuff they'd throw to Playstation.

Just to test the waters. More games will come.

If MS launch a Steamxbox/PC-console and a Handheld, with Gamepass as a store front, they could really upset the market. However, as MS have shown for more than a decade, they're fucking retarded and don't understand the industry.

 

[Angelic 2 the Core]

Yeah but they are running gears and halo into the dirt

I don't understand why they went out of their way to move two of their flagship series into a direction that no one wanted and essentially ruining them. I remember when Halo and Gears were two of the biggest series in gaming. Now I don't know anyone who cares about them other than casual players who will try anything that's on Game Pass and then quickly move on before even finishing the storyline or learning how to play multiplayer and old timer fans who complain about them being crappy compared to the originals but still play them anyhow.

It's kind of sad because there aren't any other online multiplayer series similar to Halo and Gears in their prime to replace them, and I wouldn't be surprised if they both died out entirely eventually.