Community Yaoi and MPreg Fandom Discussion Thread

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I don’t know why the fuck I expected the yaoi thread to have any semblance of coherency, but that’s on me. Anyway, can’t believe that no one’s brought up the yaoi paddles
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Please point out where i mentioned young boys in my post. I am genuinely confused about your projection.
That's what quite a lot of the reason people find yaoi repulsive so I assumed you were including that in your defense of "women projecting themselves when they write disgusting shit". Still doesn't change your core argument that "Men write disgusting thing bad, women do it it's ok, m'kay"
 
That's what quite a lot of the reason people find yaoi repulsive so I assumed you were including that in your defense of "women projecting themselves when they write disgusting shit". Still doesn't change your core argument that "Men write disgusting thing bad, women do it it's ok, m'kay"
So basically, just because you are incapable of thinking beyond black and white, it means I cannot have a nuanced opinion about a genre that's 90% about adult men? are you suddenly anti movies as a medium because of cuties? does Michael Jackson being a pedophile means you wont listen to music anymore?

The objective truth is that people choose to hyper-focus on mpreg, an incredibly niche genre that was practically unheard of until a few years ago, because they know they sound retarded and whiny crying over the average yaoi. The truth is if a woman had this level of contempt over male sexuality, she would be called a sjw feminazi woke libtard. I find the yaoi discourse interesting because it highlights how normalized the sexualization of women is. Whereas women sexualizing men in the most harmless way is demonized and compared to real porn where women are trafficked, raped, and traumatized. If I can watch the fifth element despite it having a woman that acts like a toddler, is put on some hooker tier outfit for most of the movie and is paired with a man that's twice her age, then men are going to survive anime boys kissing. Dont worry fujos wont rape you, they find you too fat, bald and ugly. Maybe barafags will defile that ass though, good luck.
"Men write disgusting thing bad, women do it it's ok, m'kay"
Unironically yes. As long as it doesn't involve underage characters, I genuinely don't give a shit. Stop pretending you are oppressed because women write men kissing. Especially because I know you wouldn't extend this level of scrutiny over to men. The countries with the highest amount of fujos(china,Korea,japan) are the ones with the shittiest, most entitled, ugliest men so I support women picking yaoi over men that beat them up if they have short hair, abort them and molest them on the train. Maybe if men learned where the clitoris is women in those countries wouldn't pick a bunch of pixels on webtoon over them.
 
The female damage control ITT over their chosen pornography is amazing.
And I'm a woman too, niggresses, so don't give me any of that "incel chud" bs. I just don't categorize porn differently according to who it's aimed at because all porn is bad. Porn is a pipeline.
"B-b-but my coffee AU" doesn't mean shit.


Also for the record, ryona doujinshi is written and drawn by japanese women the most ((DO NOT) see Shiruka Bakaudon as an example) . Hell, a lot of the giant tits big ass horse-face-when-they- suck-the-cock is made by women too. Even in "non hentai" works, women draw other women as fanservicy as posssible unless they are going for old school shoujo style (so no action or violence).

There's no gender war here. It's just BP women that can't tolerate the fact that women are capable of being just as degenerate as men, so they need to cope. Notice how no man here is arguing that men aren't capable of being degenerate.

Feminists are exhausting, dude. Women can do no wrong ever uguu o algo.
 
Also for the record, ryona doujinshi is written and drawn by japanese women the most ((DO NOT) see Shiruka Bakaudon as an example) . Hell, a lot of the giant tits big ass horse-face-when-they- suck-the-cock is made by women too. Even in "non hentai" works, women draw other women as fanservicy as posssible unless they are going for old school shoujo style (so no action or violence).
Do you have proof that women draw the most ryona doujinshis outside of a cherry picked example moids love to use to blame their degeneracy on women? You got angry at me providing proof of women's aoe3 tags being less vile than men's choice of pornhub rape on tape genres, but you cant provide factual proof besides some pickmes making coomshit for male attention and getting said male attention because they are pickmes whores in a male dominated field(porn). Again, i want the stats, the percentage. Factual, verifiable proof.
There's no gender war here. It's just BP women that can't tolerate the fact that women are capable of being just as degenerate as men, so they need to cope
Can you post those facts? Can you post the crime statistics that women are raping children and men at the same rate as men? Because all i see is men cherry picking outliers and exagerating them to deflect from the actual, verifiable with years of statistics and studies, facts that men commit more crimes against women and children and consume harder and illegal pornography.

You remind me a lot of when i was younger. I used to think defending men from the evil woke feminists(aka women pointing out the facts) would make them see me as their equal and they would return the favour. But they never do. And they never will. Men and women aren't equal, because men terrorize women and kids daily. There are stastistics and years of history that prove this. To this day most women cant even abort on first world countries. Women cant be ugly in videogames without men claiming its some sort of personal attack. Women cant go out alone at night without the fear of being attacked. It took steam years to get rid of porn games featuring women being raped and abused. Not even bringing up how horrifying it is to be a woman in a third or developing country.

The "b-but women reading yaoi makes women as bad as men" is a sad attempt from men to "equalize" men and women by lowering women to their inhumane male standards. It's why the yaoi debate is an useless distraction. If men want to be treated as equal to women, then instead of dragging women down with them, they should look inwards and make other men behave better. When men start to hold eachother accountable, when men are the ones that fight against removing incest and rape games from steam, when men decide to no longer sexualize women in media, when they choose not to rape women and children like how women choose not to rape kids and men, only then men and women will be equal. And only then i will give a shit about women drawing stupid harmless shit like yaoi.
 
> "Source???"
> moids
> walls of text of the usual radfem rethoric
> moves goalposts (classic)

This is tiring, will go nowhere and achieve nothing other than feed her need for arguing with people. Let's just keep laughing at fujos that's far more productive and entertaining.
 
As a teenager, I had a bit of a weeb phase and befriended two sisters. The younger one was into some weird things but was quiet about it. The older one was overly open about her love of yaoi and whenever I was at their place she insisted we watched or read that gay shit. I was a weird, mostly unlikable dork at the time and didn't understand why she liked it so much. Still don't. Two men fucking is just kinda gross, no matter how effeminate they are

As for how we each turned out, me and the older one ended up basic straight women with a gaggle of kids each while the younger sister turned into an asexual person of gender who uses Tumblr in 2025.
 
> "Source???"
> moids
> walls of text of the usual radfem rethoric
> moves goalposts (classic)

This is tiring, will go nowhere and achieve nothing other than feed her need for arguing with people. Let's just keep laughing at fujos that's far more productive and entertaining.
Maybe don't claim harmful bullshit about a group of people if you don't want it to be questioned then. You can laugh at fujos without spreading misinformation that takes 5 seconds to fact-check. Women not standing up to eachother is the reason why the "white women fuck dogs" myth is so prevalent despite most zoophiles being male.
 
Mpreg isn't even on the 100 list, mind you.
I meant apt in the sense that women are the primary audience/consumers of ao3, and thusly their tastes can best be determined there.
But women are le bad for reading fluff and coffee aus.
Its worth noting again, those tags arent as pure as they look.
Alternate universe is 54% yaoi
Fluff is 53% yaoi
Angst is 49% yaoi
Sexual content is 64% yaoi
Sex is 62% yaoi
Sure the tags may look more pure, but at any given time 40%-60% are fujoshi fantasy stories. Are women bad? No, I resent that idea frankly. However also do not think women are better than men either, and resent that as well. I think my analysis above indicates that you're not as pure and you'd have others think.
 
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I meant apt in the sense that women are the primary audience/consumers of ao3, and thusly their tastes can best be determined there.

Its worth noting again, those tags arent as pure as they look.
Alternate universe is 54% yaoi
Fluff is 53% yaoi
Angst is 49% yaoi
Sexual content is 64% yaoi
Sex is 62% yaoi
Sure the tags may look more pure, but at any given time 40%-60% are fujoshi fantasy stories. Are women bad? No, I resent that idea frankly. However also do not think women are better than men either, ans resent that as well. I think my analysis above indicates that you're not as pure and you'd have others think.
Can you explain why yaoi is "impure"? I dont understand how that changes anything. You are implying that these tags are tarnished because of yaoi, and wouldnt be if they were only het, which i dont understand. How is romance suddenly bad when women are writing about two cute men instead of only one. What changes? Its the same thing, just women writing about their idealized idea of men. I dont understand how one is impure and the other isnt.
 
Can you explain why yaoi is "impure"? I dont understand how that changes anything. You are implying that these tags are tarnished because of yaoi, and wouldnt be if they were only het, which i dont understand. How is romance suddenly bad when women are writing about two cute men instead of only one.
You've answered the question within itself.
To give more detail, yaoi is written by and for straight women. Women who are, ostensibly, interested in having a straight relationship with a man, and ergo, that would be the sort of relationship they would be interested in reading (again, ostensibly so). Yet, that's not true for roughly 50% of AO3 users, which means that the change is clearly made for fetish reasons. Its a fetish, plain and simple. These stories are written as yaoi, for no other reasons than that it gets the readers rocks off. These tags, which may be "pure" are tainted by the fact that half of them are for fetish stories. It would be like me trying to argue that the "angst" tag is true and wholesome, despite half the stories with it involving feet.
Its the same thing, just women writing about their idealized idea of men. I dont understand how one is impure and the other isnt.
In this case, its because one is a blatant fetish thing, while the other is more or less just wish fulfillment (which while I dont necessarily begrudge, it's degrading and insulting to read, but thats a separate issue).
 
Ok.

AO3 top 10 tags
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source: https://archiveofourown.org/works/20310382/chapters/173541049
Mpreg isn't even on the 100 list, mind you.

Men's pornhub top 10 tags
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But women are le bad for reading fluff and coffee aus.
You know that women are porn actors too? Those vile disgusting porn vids on pornhub star actual biological women. Actual women watch that porn too. Hell, without the participation of those women, those porn videos wouldn't exist. You know that what Pornhub has on their disgusting ultra degenerate website may not be representative of the average male interests? How many men actually watch pornhub? How many either don't watch porn at all because it disgusts them, or watch normal vanilla porn, maybe even the kind that women wouldn't object to, that doesn't involve doing any disgusting acts?
How are you going to explain women doing findom, sadistic and dominatrix rituals in real life, with actual men? Are men always the one in control, even when the woman is in control? How about the psychological damage that crazy women cause to men, from children to adults, often as their mother, that fucks them up for their entire life and often causes them to never be normal? The amount of violent women is the same as men. The violent men just use physical violence more often than psychological destruction. Women that use psychological violence on others are destructive to not only their direct victims, but to their victims social circles, and thus to society at large. If we didn't have so many women that are fucked in the head, we wouldn't have so many cheating, lying, manipulating, psychos that destroy the men they fuck with, causing those men to lose trust in women. Often it starts with them getting psychologically assaulted, sometimes by their mom when they're just a kid unable to defend themselves, causing them to develop this perception that all women are fucked up like that, and so they treat all the women they meet later in life as if they were the same level of fucked up. Sometimes it's the women they meet later in life that make them think that way. Sometimes it's their partners or even spouses that they had kids with that decide to fuck with them until they lose their mind. One thing I noticed with women is they will constantly, unrepentantly, shittest all the men they ever meet in their life. They will lead them into the abyss, they will point them at a cliff, and say "run there!" and if the man does, he dies. Metaphorically speaking of course, in real life it's more like telling them that it's okay to be weak and show weakness and cry, that they should dress in these nice pretty clothes that they picked for them (that make them look like a fag and get bullied by his classmates and shunned by women), and so on. Then when the men actually believe them, they are proven right - they are subconsciously trying to shit test the man all the time, to see if he's strong or weak. The strong man will resist her shit tests and tell her to fuck off (after which they'll go cry about it to her friends - he's so mean to me! I just want him the best!) but if he succumbs to her shit test, they get instantly disgusted by him and dump him. Why is it most often the mothers that diddle their kids, push them into mutilating themselves and becoming trannies, fail to raise them with any right values? Women like to pretend like they're so much more virtuous than men, when they're most often the seductors and corrupters of those men.
As for my interpretation on women that are into yaoi: they're sadistic. They have a power fantasy of dominating men. The male on male rape is good for this because they can self-insert as one of the men, the one that's doing the raping. They get satisfaction from imagining they're doing the raping. They don't have the mental capacity or stamina to do it in real life (other than by psychologically torturing them), so this is a nice satisfying self insert for them. Why isn't the character into which they self insert a woman? Simple, women hate other women. They can't self insert into another woman because their feeling of hate and rage against the woman (a competitor who they want to kill) overcomes the satisfying feeling of sadistic pleasure.
It's why women all hate each other, they're competing for the same men, and so they all want to kill each other. They never developed the capacity to cooperate for mutual benefit like men did, because it was never evolutionarily selected for. There was always some retarded man that would impregnate any woman and continue their genes. So for female genes to overcome another female's genes, the only solution was to outright kill that woman. That's what women would do if they weren't under social pressure by men to not be murderers.
 
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Okay well first of all this thread is incredible

Gay and straight men's depravity mirror each other. The way gay men draw barashit with dehumanizing, porny, and exaggerated proportions reminds me of how straight men draw female characters. It's very telling how bishounen drawn by women are always fully covered in classy or fantasy outfits. In contrast, barashits draw their men with only a thong on, gigantic cocks, and pectorals with erect nipples.
I have been on the internet long enough to see men congregating on second life to role play cooking and eating women, Chinese men being sent to labour camp for drawing pregnant women being cut wide opened to extract their baby and rape it, Japanese men adapting a snuff fetish manga into a realistic gore movie(mai chan's daily life), etc.
Gay men are so degenerate that they cannot just enjoy normal men kissing; they have to make their own genre of gay coom that's about gross ape-like hairy men getting their shit blended by cock.

I think of myself as a longtime jaded internet pervert, and I’ve never heard of half this stuff.

You know so much about this, Hand Banana. And you clearly spend time thinking deeply about it. The reference to the Second Life Dolcett community is a very deep cut, no pun intended. And I’ve never even heard of Mai Chan’s Daily Life.

You’re talking about perverts masturbating to disgusting fetishes in this pornographic dirty talk cadence. “Pectorals with erect nipples,” “ape-like hairy men getting their shit blended by cock” It reads like slapdash literotica prose. I don’t think you jerk off to it, but you’re clearly titillated and you’re making us a part of your thrill.

Just saying.
 
> "Source???"
> moids
> walls of text of the usual radfem rethoric
> moves goalposts (classic)

This is tiring, will go nowhere and achieve nothing other than feed her need for arguing with people. Let's just keep laughing at fujos that's far more productive and entertaining.
You got me there. No sense arguing with femtards, they will even discredit women themselves. Will mute and move on. Thank you fren.
 
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