Young men reveal why so many of them are single: ‘Dates feel more like job interviews’

From: https://nypost.com/2023/03/01/rate-of-single-men-in-the-us-looking-for-dates-has-declined/

They’re single but they’re not mingling.

New data from the Pew Research Center has shown that 63% of men under 30 are single – up from 51% in 2019.

COVID isolation and women’s high expectations for something serious are the main reasons they’re avoiding going out and coupling up, young guys say.

“Dates feel more like job interviews now. Much more like ‘What can you do for me and where is this going?'” said Ian Breslow, a 28-year-old high school teacher who lives in Astoria.

“The ‘getting to know you’ period is gone and that doesn’t feel so great after coming out of isolation.”

He recalled a recent first date that went quite well until the woman interrogated him on their walk home.

“She literally asked me, ‘Would you rather our kids go to public or private school?’ Followed by several more extreme questions about getting married. I just started responding with what I knew she would hate the most to get her to leave,” Breslow told The Post.

Experts agree that women are certainly wanting more than ever before.

“The overall picture [is] that if a woman is going to go on a date with a man, chances are it’s not for a casual fling,” Ronald Levant, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron, told The Post.

“Especially if the woman is kind of getting close to 30, [she’s] thinking about the biological clock and wants to have a family,” he added.

Breslow isn’t looking to settle down and get married anytime soon, so he’d rather have casual flings.

“The way dating is currently just makes me want to hook up locally with no stress or strings attached,” he says. “Fortunately that part comes very easy … I’m unmotivated to search for something serious for the time being.”

Ian Breslow said the face of dating has changed greatly since COVID.
Andrew Bruno, a 28-year-old nurse from Bellmore, NY, says flirting in the post-COVID era just isn’t as fun as it once was.

“Being able to naturally approach people while out isn’t like it was pre-pandemic. People are still much less likely to leave their groups or cliques at a bar,” said Bruno. “They’re certainly less talkative and that’s lowered my incentive to put myself out there.”

He also said the pandemic, more than ever before, made dating apps the central means for meeting people — and he’s not a fan.

“That just really isn’t my style. Like there is a weekslong prerequisite before you can think about getting involved, even for casual things,” Bruno said. “I’d rather take all that effort and put it towards my career.”

And, like Breslow, he’s in no hurry to get hitched.

Andrew Bruno feels that people have become less approachable while out since COVID.
“I’m also still very young,” Bruno said. “I don’t feel the need to rush, especially if people don’t act as naturally as they did before COVID. Why would I put it all out there for someone who can’t or won’t hold a conversation?”

For Mike M., a 25-year-old in Queens, it’s his — not the opposite sex’s — social skills that are still battling a bad case of long COVID.

“I definitely can’t walk into a room and go talk to someone I’m interested [in] like I used to be able to. It feels like my outgoingness has suffered some atrophy,” Mike, who withheld his last name out of embarrassment, told The Post.

He’s also having less sex than he did pre-pandemic.

“I have definitely been going online to take care of my urges more than I have by seeing people,” Mike admitted.

What do you think? Be the first to comment.
He feels as though he lost two prime years in his early 20s of being able to date and have fun without worrying about being in a serious relationship.

Now, he’s under pressure to find a long-term commitment, but can’t put himself out there.

“I also feel like I’m caught between two worlds,” he said. “Ultimately I’ve just been crashing and have had neither lately.”
 
“Especially if the woman is kind of getting close to 30, [she’s] thinking about the biological clock and wants to have a family,” he added.
gee, maybe they should've thought of that before adopting an ideology that alienates the other half of the species that also would want a family. don't call it a grave, etc. etc.
also:
And OP is sooper late, this article came out in March.
 
“Dates feel more like job interviews now. Much more like ‘What can you do for me and where is this going?'” said Ian Breslow, a 28-year-old high school teacher who lives in Astoria.
Not sure how I should feel about this. On one hand, bringing out big questions like that right off the bat is can be off putting, but on the other hand, 28 is a time when people should really be thinking about how their life is going to go relationships wise, and it's likely overall a good sign that long term thinking is in play.

You certainly don't want a Borb situation spawning another Chris - bad parenting coupled with geezer gametes from both parents.
 
Not sure how I should feel about this. On one hand, bringing out big questions like that right off the bat is can be off putting, but on the other hand, 28 is a time when people should really be thinking about how their life is going to go relationships wise, and it's likely overall a good sign that long term thinking is in play.
Yeah like he is 28 fucking years old and still just wants to have flings? Dude is a red flag and absolutely no marriage material.
 
I think most guys problem is that it's one sided. Like it depends on where ya look, but on dating apps like 95% of women have a profile like this

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While offering nothing themselves outside of looks and usually not even that.
 
And OP is sooper late, this article came out in March.
OP knew exactly what they were doing
  • Article get's posted on A&N regarding how dating sucks
  • KF men posters in thread agree due to real life situations and/or facts
  • women/trolls come in thread, call the men that posted in it incels/losers/etc...
  • gigantic amounts of spergatory ensures
lather, rinse, repeat
 
“She literally asked me, ‘Would you rather our kids go to public or private school?’ Followed by several more extreme questions about getting married. I just started responding with what I knew she would hate the most to get her to leave,” Breslow told The Post.
Sounded like she was interested in him, just going about it in a rather odd way.

Or maybe she was playing 4D Chess and decided to let him down gently even though she had no interest in him, by saying the sort of shit that would send any rational man running for the exits? Let him be the one thinking he ended it, etc.

Weird, because the rest of the article came across like a MGTOW/incel advertisement.
 
Young adults are so autistic and guideless nowadays that we might get a return to arranged marriages.
You really have to give adolescents cultural guidelines for courtship before they start haplessly fucking around and experimenting on their own, because they clearly can't handle it with their "own experiences". Failed relationships are not "growth as a person" like coping women's magazines claim they are, they are psychological bagagge that stay with you.
Boomers and GenX fucked their children over so fucking hard. Didn't teach them shit, and IF they taught them it was some feminism-laced garbage that didn't help them and probably even hindered them.
Incels and Cat ladies are mainstream now, and it threatens society as a whole.
But who cares, as long as boomers get their pensions and huge corporations have loads of depressed employees not distracted by useless nonprofitable shit like "pair bonding", "companionship" or "reproduction", the politicians are happy.
 
I find the concept of ‘dating’ like this a bit odd in itself. Putting two people who’ve never met in an awkward situation and expecting them to sound each other out enough to decide if they might form a permanent pair. That’s just odd. It must wear you down constantly doing that. Either constant rejection or constantly meeting people who are rubbish. It takes time to get to know people. This kind of thing just works on immediate physical attraction rather than getting to know someone and realising they’re a lovely person
It’s quite an American thing, or it was when I was younger. Here you just kind of knew people and if you liked them you might see if they fancied going out for a pint/film/coffee somewhere and take it from there, but this idea of meeting people out of nowhere and auditioning them seems odd to me. I’d hate it.
We’ve lost a lot of the places young people naturally got to know each other and realised they might like to take it further. Dating like this is just artificial and weird. If anything ever happened to mr. Otterly, God forbid, I’d probably just remain in a nunnery or something. I would have no idea how to meet anyone.
 
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