Your current and next phone. - Smartphone general

[1996 Toyota Camry]

I'm vaguely interested in getting a Z Fold 4 just to see if folding screens have actually improved since the heap of trash that was the first gen foldables.

They have gotten a little bit better but not in any major way. If you do buy one, dont buy used. You will probably want that warranty in case the fragile display fucks itself within a year

 

[CaptainAutism69]

They have gotten a little bit better but not in any major way. If you do buy one, dont buy used. You will probably want that warranty WHEN the fragile display fucks itself within a year

Fixed that for you

 

[akio0817]

im satisfied with my phone because it can call, text, and send medium quality images. its an iphone 13 if you wish to know.

 

[crowabunga]

I want my next "phone" to be a rugged laptop that I can lug around and surf wifi on (with VPN & other security measures).

I'm aware of "ruggedized" tech that can survive five foot falls and being used in a rainstorm, but they are all heavy as fuck. Are there any fairly durable consumer laptops out there that can take the moderate beatings of constantly being carried around? Review sites obsess over features and use cases I don't give a fuck about.

 

[ryuichi]

If you do buy one, dont buy used.

No and no shit, it's don't buy from a carrier unless you want that shit bloated with shitware.
buy the two separate, if can't fork over $1300+ you don't need it. phones are for making calls not for twiddling dumb and dumber

shit my current shitphone is a A32; cause I forgot to get an iphone instead

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

In a sea of Chinese OEMs, it is getting harder to find a non-Chinese Android phone since most brands have gone out the smartphone race now. However, I love my Samsung Galaxy A53. It's a great midrange phone. So many useful features and functions. Does everything I need and want.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

In a sea of Chinese OEMs, it is getting harder to find a non-Chinese Android phone since most brands have gone out the smartphone race now. However, I love my Samsung Galaxy A53. It's a great midrange phone. So many useful features and functions. Does everything I need and want.

It's basically down to the Pixel and Samsung line isn't it? Such a shame as Samsung's ui is pretty bloated. I've had a massive dislike for it since touchwiz in the galaxy 3.

 

[Freezer Rat]

Currently on a Motorola Power G as I (once again) broke my phone and needed something cheap on the spot. I think my next phone will end up being one of those milSpec phones that can survive something more than a stiff breeze.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

I have been kicking around the idea of getting a Pixel 7 Pro when it comes out and running GrapheneOS. Right now I have a test case of it running on a standard 7 and it is generally a good experience. Though the built-in browser lacks a proper ad blocker, which sucks.

So I began reading about Bromite and looking for comparisons and stumbled upon this...

Bromite Issue #2141: Please remove all code from Vanadium and GrapheneOS project members (a)

Bromite is no longer welcome to use any code from Vanadium or GrapheneOS. We'll be changing our licensing to prevent using our code here since that is what is being done in the other direction.

We'll be retracting our recommendation to use Bromite and anyone who contributes to Bromite going forward will be banned from the GrapheneOS community until there is an apology and a commitment not to support abusive behavior towards us. I do not genuinely expect that to happen and am perfectly willing to accept no longer working with you ever again along with working to undo all of the support and resources you have received due to contributions and recommendation to use it to a broad community.

I seem to have stumbled upon a nerd fight. There are some fun comments in that thread that bemoan harrasment and legal retaliation. I'm still not sure what the terrible abuse was but it must have been super terrible to cut ties with a complimentary browser with a shared audience. There was even one point in time when the GrapheneOS devs had the following on their website:

Using Vanadium is highly recommended. Bromite is a solid alternative and is the only other browser we recommend. Bromite provides integrated ad-blocking and more advanced anti-fingerprinting. For now, Vanadium is more focused on security hardening and Bromite is more focused on anti-fingerprinting. The projects are collaborating together and will likely converge to providing more of the same features.

Well shit. Kind of a bummer that this didn't pan out because Vanadium really needs an ad blocker. And now we have to wait longer because someone got mad.

@Null you might find this thread fun to read.

 

[Null]

@Null you might find this thread fun to read.

What is their argument over?

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

What is their argument over?

That is what I am trying to figure out. I think I've found it.

This post in Bromite issue #2102 (a) seems to be ground zero. The guy posting is "thestinger", GrapheneOS' lead. He is directing his post at "csagan5", a Bromite developer. And they are referencing a rival OS called "CalyxOS" and specifically a Calyx developer called "chirayudesai" for alleged harrasment, misinformation and the laundering of code through Bromite to Calyx.

From GrapheneOS lead thestinger:

@csagan5 Bromite has used a lot of patches from Vanadium. If you're going to be collaborating with a group (Calyx) involved in a substantial misinformation and harassment/bullying campaign directed towards our project and developers we expect all of the Vanadium patches to be removed, and for Vanadium to no longer be used as a reference by Bromite. That's especially true when the licensing situation blocks us from using Bromite changes in return. You changed your licensing because you felt you were being taken advantage of by others but that's now what's happening to Vanadium, especially when our changes are now going to be laundered through Bromite by Calyx while they are involved in extremely unacceptable malicious behavior towards us. This will also have consequences for Bromite developers and contributors in the GrapheneOS community, since anyone collaborating with Calyx is not welcome in our community.

And another from thestinger:

@chirayudesai You are not welcome to use any of our code and laundering it through another project is not an acceptable way to avoid giving attribution and credit to GrapheneOS for our work even if you decide not to respect our wishes for abusers like yourself to not use our code, especially while you continue to engage in extremely underhanded and malicious behavior towards us on an ongoing basis.

So at face value the GrapheneOS guy is mad at the CalyxOS team for using Bromite as a means of laundering GrapheneOS code for use in their own privacy-oriented OS. Unsurprisingly it rapidly becomes a case of "you are with us or against us." There might even be neo-Nazis working on CalyxOS so Bromite needs to recant NOW.

Our boy thestinger once more:

Choosing to work with @chirayudesai would be a choice to work with someone involved in highly underhanded and abusive behavior towards myself, other GrapheneOS project members and the GrapheneOS project as a whole. @chirayudesai has fabricated stories about me which have played a crucial role in the harassment/libel/bullying targeting me from their community. They happily welcome people involved in the most extreme parts of the harassment campaign orchestrated by their community including people who have openly demanded that I kill myself and on a daily basis post baseless claims that I'm schizophrenic and delusional. Some of those people are openly literal neo-nazis, and I'm not using that term lightly as a way to refer to people with far right views rather than people who are openly racist / anti-semitic / fascist.

There are more important things than technology and code. I happen to think that this despicable harassment, libel and bullying campaign towards me which has been largely orchestrated by Calyx employees and their associates is something that's a lot more important than whatever code could be gained from working with people involved in that despicable behavior. Even if you don't care about that, you should consider the consequences of working with them. It is not possible to collaborate with both Calyx and GrapheneOS. Software tied to Calyx also won't be recommended by GrapheneOS, the developers/contributors will not be welcome in our community, and we'll also let our community know what has changed with prominent announcements on Twitter, our website and in our Matrix rooms.

Calyx knows they bring this with them to any project where they contribute / participate, any conference where they participate, any organization they work with, etc. They were aware they were bringing this issue to Bromite by opening the pull request. They're aware of our feelings on this and how we would respond to it. They're certainly aware of the past collaboration between GrapheneOS and Bromite along with the impact them working with Bromite would have on that going forward.

There are more important things than code.

And thestinger sums it all up here in his response to Bromite developer csagan5:

If you accept contributors from people involved in abusive behavior towards myself and GrapheneOS, then you've made the decision for Bromite to have contributors involved in abusive behavior towards myself and GrapheneOS. Bromite would therefore be a hostile project. A few bad apples spoil the bunch. If you welcome highly abusive people in your project, you are one too.

Here is where csagan5 from Bromite responds to the GrapheneOS lead thestinger. Read if you want, it is long and also is the start of a complete shitshow with some funny comments. But otherwise I think I figured out the general outline. I have no clue what secret ops CalyxOS ran to try to make thestinger kill himself (as he claims). But this thread seems to be the nexus of the schism between GrapheneOS and Bromite.

Ended up being a fun distraction on a slow day.

 

[Null]

Graphene people are objectively in the wrong if they think they can dictate how open source code is used. If you've made it open, you can basically guarantee it will be copied and used, even in closed source for-profit projects.

You also can't really copyright code, you can't preclude specific people from using an otherwise open source, and you can't litigate these issues. There's no point.

 

[Mortin Shart]

Currently on a Motorola Power G as I (once again) broke my phone and needed something cheap on the spot. I think my next phone will end up being one of those milSpec phones that can survive something more than a stiff breeze.

How's is the battery on that thing?

 

[WelperHelper99]

In a sea of Chinese OEMs, it is getting harder to find a non-Chinese Android phone since most brands have gone out the smartphone race now. However, I love my Samsung Galaxy A53. It's a great midrange phone. So many useful features and functions. Does everything I need and want.

I have a Samsung A51, just got the charge port replaced, still has a sim and Micro SD slot, and it has all the firepower of a Galaxy S10, which is more than enough for me. 5G too, which I got because my old phone, a galaxy S5, was getting shut off because it was 3g, so I wanted to get ahead of the curve. I'm going to be using it until it burns itself out.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I am thinking of putting GrapheneOS on my phone just so I can squeeze some extra months out of it so I only change it at the end of the year or next year but I am weary of doing it because I have never done it and my phone isn't a Pixel or likely to have ever been considered by the devs (LG G8 ThinQ)

My dad recently changed his phone and went from a iPhone 5s to a Galaxy S23 and he is giddy as fuck with it. Happy with speed and resolution and everything very wholesome.

 

[Hack for crack]

Have s23 ultra and will get s24 ultra.
Dragging and dropping from a PC to phone scares the apple user.
All other android designs = poorfaggot

flip4 is okay I guess but I don't like it.

 

[Freezer Rat]

How's is the battery on that thing?

I can go two days before I need to plug it in, and thats with slightly heavier than average usage.

 

[heil_terry]

I am thinking of putting GrapheneOS on my phone just so I can squeeze some extra months out of it so I only change it at the end of the year or next year but I am weary of doing it because I have never done it and my phone isn't a Pixel or likely to have ever been considered by the devs (LG G8 ThinQ)

My dad recently changed his phone and went from a iPhone 5s to a Galaxy S23 and he is giddy as fuck with it. Happy with speed and resolution and everything very wholesome.

you can't install grapheneos or LineageOS on that phone even if you could you can't lock the bootloader but the next best thing you can do with it is factory reset it, then debloating and installing fdroid front i recommend. grapheneos is google pixel only you can get pixel 6 pro from store display pretty cheaply.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I saw on the site that indeed Graphene is pretty much a Pixel only meme, I am gonna look into that debloater it looks quite useful for keeping a old phone around.

 

[Sneeds]

My phones OLED cracked 1 week after I got it. It was in a protective case and had a screen protector.