Youtube General thread (formerly Youtube Censorship discussion thread)

[Ayana Otonashi]

Brave still blocks ads, how long until it doesnt?

when I switch to Librewolf

 

[Judge Dredd]

On the archival front, what would be the best way to set up hard drives? I was going to buy a bunch of sata drives for my PC as I've run out of space.

What's the best way to save mass content that's tbs of data? I'm talking channels like FailRace.

Even when set to best quality, videos download at 720p. I have ffmpeg as part of my video editing software, but I might have to download it again just to for yt-dlp. Most of the stuff I want doesn't need the quality, though there are a few exceptions.

I decided to save my liked videos, but they aren't public for some reason. Again, not a major loss. I can look through the list and pick the ones I want to keep.

I'm a retard that doesn't know how to use yt-dl, I definitely need some help archiving videos for my favourite channels.

If you know how to copy and paste, and edit shortcuts. Download yt-dlp, create a shortcut, then add the share link at the end of the "target". Double click and you'll get just the videos you want at 720p quality. Easier than messing with the command line every time.

 

[trash cat]

You're a godsend. Thank you very much.

Time to fill my hard drive with videos to survive this shit.

You're welcome. Just keep in mind those sites will sometimes launch ad pop-ups (lol) but they will download the video. Sometimes you just have to click download a couple of times.

 

[Temperance]

Reminder: Google announced last year that they are going to delete Google accounts which have been inactive for more than two years. (They ended up delaying this slightly, but the clock has already started, so you should make sure to occasionally log in to your old Google accounts if you want to keep them.)
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/google-to-delete-inactive-accounts-starting-december.165371/

After getting backlash from people worried that this would cause a huge number of old Youtube videos to vanish, Google gave some vague assurances that they wouldn't delete Google accounts that have uploaded Youtube videos. However, you shouldn't trust them.
https://archive.ph/fELoY

Starting later this year, if a Google Account has not been used or signed into for at least 2 years, we may delete the account and its contents – including content within Google Workspace (Gmail, Docs, Drive, Meet, Calendar) and Google Photos.

Additionally, we do not have plans to delete accounts with YouTube videos at this time.

^^ Notice the weasel wording?

I fully expect them to eventually start deleting old, "inactive" Youtube channels. Old channels with lots of views will probably be spared, but anything which is both old AND unprofitable for Youtube is likely to get purged within the next couple years, IMO.
So definitely archive anything you care about!

 

[Triggerni66er]

Revanced stopped working for me and I use Youtube a lot in my car and while I'm exercising so I need the phone app to work when the screen is turned off and while minimised so I bit the bullet and bought YouTube Premium.

Except I bought YouTube premium in Indonesia using a VPN. I also got my wife on there as part of the family plan. It's not ideal but it's a LOT cheaper than the crazy expensive price it is in my country.

It's only a stopgap. Once this stops working for me and I can't block ads any way except paying the extortionate fee they charge in my country I'll stop using the service entirely.

 

[Null]

I think the people discussing adblockers don't seem to understand that no conventional adblocker will be able to adequately bypass ads once this change is implemented. As far as your computer is able to discern, the content you are watching is indistinguishable from the rest of the video. It is effectively lying to your computer as to what is ad and what is not ad. You will not be able to block it. Even if you had AI that could detect the interruption for you, the best it will be able to do is simply mute and black out until the ad has finished playing.

And really, if they're that dedicated, more sophisticated tools could be detected. Even if it were something really magic like being able to download the next sequence of the video from a remote server and play it instead, YouTube would be able to tell that your player is now acting as if the ad never played, and it could break itself.

It's really a struggle for your mind. They want to rape your eyes and brain with bullshit you don't want or need, or force you pay $20/mo for the privilege of something you had for free for years.

 

[The Lawgiver]

So definitely archive anything you care about!

Yes, starting with this masterpiece from 2008. Everybody deserves to see content like this.

Spoiler: EDIT: There is a longer version holy shit

It is effectively lying to your computer as to what is ad and what is not ad.

Every day I'm reminded more and more that Bonzi Buddy died for nothing. everything and more people hated him doing with the personalized ad shit that led to the company that made hm getting sued into oblivion is now industry standard.

 

[WULULULULU]

Makes me regret not archiving Pwnagemcgee (otherwise known as the 11 Drunk Guys) way back in 2020 before Youtube forced them to make the 11 Drunk Guys series private due to nigger and faggot cursing. I have most but I don't have Hospice Part 2 and Sanitorium Part 2.

 

[UtopiaGuy]

Injecting adds directly into the video stream is computationally expensive last I heard. I'm guessing there was some breakthrough in encoding technologies or hardware that allows them to do this cheaply now. Things certainly look grim for users of youtube, glad I never grew dependent on watching content from there, seems like so many others have.

I suspect the plan is to inject the ads into videos between timestamps. They already have a auto function to create chapter timestamps in your video along with auto subtitles, so they'll probably use those to program an AI bot to choose where to inject the ad and make the ad seem less like sudden surprise-sex. Nothing I hate more than an ad randomly grinding gears on you mid-sentence, mid-word, or mid-thought! Hulu used to carry an old show I loved and knew well, but they injected ads randomly, with no consideration to the ad breaks built into the show, and that random pop-up bullshit made the content unwatchable. Monetized creators can kind of choose when an ad appears, but few have the sense to plan where to put one when making their video, so it isn't the same as TV. There's no "we'll be right back after this message," or whatever. Goddamned annoying!

 

[Powdy Riper]

this sounds retarded but people should start taking screenshots of whatever nonsense advertisements you see on youtube

I already have a few of them in a folder somewhere (mostly scams, but a few other friends I know have taken screenshots of sketchy porn-esque stuff)

sorta want to post up whatever I see whenever I accumulate enough of them

 

[The Lawgiver]

this sounds retarded but people should start taking screenshots of whatever nonsense advertisements you see on youtube

I already have a few of them in a folder somewhere (mostly scams, but a few other friends I know have taken screenshots of sketchy porn-esque stuff)

sorta want to post up whatever I see whenever I accumulate enough of them

I've been doing that since 2016! I still need to track down the ones I made post corona hell because i forgot to add them to the pile and they started accumulating but yeah YT is at the point where 99% of the ads are some fucked up scam shit. usually with a tts celebrity ai voice if it's a video one.

EDIT: I forgot In 2018 I got a weird amount of ads for muslim dating sites for a bit. No clue why the ad agency algo thought i was muslim but it was funny.

 

[Powdy Riper]

I've been doing that since 2016! I still need to track down the ones I made post corona hell because i forgot to add them to the pile and they started accumulating but yeah YT is at the point where 99% of the ads are some fucked up scam shit. usually with a tts celebrity ai voice if it's a video one.

I don't watch Mr. Beast content and never have clicked on any of his videos, but I regularly see Mr. Beast scams on the mobile app (gotta remember to take screenshots of those too because I only use mobile YT when I'm outside my home)

 

[Brabbit Narp]

You're a godsend. Thank you very much.

Time to fill my hard drive with videos to survive this shit.

Don't forget the other option mentioned earlier, Tartube.

It's a good GUI for those that don't want to mess with the command line. I have downloaded terabytes of videos with it alone.

Also as a reminder, you can use the classic YouTube-DLP function with both it and the original to mass download playlists if available. Just make sure you have the hard drive space and all the stuff for downloading subtitles properly configured, and you'll be good to go.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

If these injected ads are indistinguishable from the rest of the video, what stops people from just skipping ahead of them? I'm surprised ads are actually still worth anything, do normalfags actually make purchasing decisions based off of ads?

 

[UtopiaGuy]

...do normalfags actually make purchasing decisions based off of ads?

Advertisers believe so. Certainly based on what YT tells them in order to sell the ad time.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I think the people discussing adblockers don't seem to understand that no conventional adblocker will be able to adequately bypass ads once this change is implemented. As far as your computer is able to discern, the content you are watching is indistinguishable from the rest of the video. It is effectively lying to your computer as to what is ad and what is not ad. You will not be able to block it. Even if you had AI that could detect the interruption for you, the best it will be able to do is simply mute and black out until the ad has finished playing.

And really, if they're that dedicated, more sophisticated tools could be detected. Even if it were something really magic like being able to download the next sequence of the video from a remote server and play it instead, YouTube would be able to tell that your player is now acting as if the ad never played, and it could break itself.

It's really a struggle for your mind. They want to rape your eyes and brain with bullshit you don't want or need, or force you pay $20/mo for the privilege of something you had for free for years.

I know that when its implemented its going to offset the timestamps in sponsorblock for videos that already had them but that app is entirely community driven, people will just add the time skips to any new video where the ads are inserted and probably re-adjust the old ones when they see it failing.

 

[A Fucking Houseplant]

Total Alphabet Death

 

[std::string]

If these injected ads are indistinguishable from the rest of the video, what stops people from just skipping ahead of them? I'm surprised ads are actually still worth anything, do normalfags actually make purchasing decisions based off of ads?

Ads are just there to reinforce the brand and get it inside your head, hopefully while you're watching content you enjoy so it's a positive association.

No ad exec out there is like "fuck, I hope this commercial makes them go out and switch to Allstate immediately."

 

[WULULULULU]

Total Pajeet Death

FTFY. Time to download all of Gamers Nexus' videos.

 

[NinjaSniffer]

COMPUTAH?! SAIL FOAM?!
Its all lost. No one knows anything tech related.