Zoomer aversion to marriage - The Consequences and Societal Rammifications

Most zoomers are kids at the oldest 24-25. There is a lot of reasons. Most men don't know how to date instead they go on Tinder and get rejected by whores instead of meeting people in real life. Most marriages end in divorces for millenials and there is a meme where your a cuck for marring someone with another mans child. Really its because people are to greedy and emotional they forgot what it means for mariage a loving act then you have a kid and you kind of stay there even if you start to hate your wife or husband. Trickier if its same-sex since their is no kid usually. Also as people pointed out it is expensive to own a house or apartment so most people stay with thier parents because they can't afford to move out.
 
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Marriage is for faggots anyways. Originally marriage was just a property and trade agreement that prevented conflict between families.

If you're christian or something, go for it. But most people don't need it
 
Omg how could the Millennials and Zoomers RUIN the institution of marriage in the US like this!!??

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It’s almost like people can choose to wait for someone they actually like who isn’t a NEET or abusive loser that they met in Highschool and eventually divorce.

I’m even in the “trad” category (18-24) posted here earlier in terms of getting married by a certain age, but I seriously don’t care if other people have done the same. It’s about meeting and growing with a good life partner, not pumping out kids with Crystal from the trailer park down the street.


Jazz never died! said:
Most marriages end in divorces for millenials
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The divorce rate is higher for both Gen X and Boomers. Zoomer divorce rates remain to be seen.
 
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Honestly having a marriage seems counterintuitive at this point. Most fags just overreact to the slightest shit possible and ask for a divorce and god forbid one of them actually have children in this climate when troonery is encouraged and critical thinking means you're a bigot, racist, and “part of the problem.”
 
The young folks I know that are married make good money. The "trad" ones looking to settle down still don't feel like they have enough money to do so, as they consider public education to be tantamount to child abuse. Average private school tuition is 11 grand a year if you aren't home schooling. Having kids is expensive and there's not a lot of reason in the modern age to get married if you aren't having kids. In some cases it's more advantageous to not get married if you're having kids. There used to be a spreadsheet meme going around that itemized how, if you're a woman that wants to have kids with your long-term partner, you could milk more than the median household income in state benefits if you didn't get married by gaming the system. (The validity of this meme I can't confirm)
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
It isn't just Zoomers.
Millennials are not getting married too often, either.
There are only a few married Millennial couples I know.
Most cohabitate.
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I only know one married millenial couple and the wife is the only female millenial I've met that is mentally stable. The other marriages all failed and ended in nasty divorces. The others cohabitate and rotate out partners every few years. Most are just single and lonely.
 
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FFinfo said:
The young folks I know that are married make good money. The "trad" ones looking to settle down still don't feel like they have enough money to do so, as they consider public education to be tantamount to child abuse. Average private school tuition is 11 grand a year if you aren't home schooling. Having kids is expensive and there's not a lot of reason in the modern age to get married if you aren't having kids. In some cases it's more advantageous to not get married if you're having kids. There used to be a spreadsheet meme going around that itemized how, if you're a woman that wants to have kids with your long-term partner, you could milk more than the median household income in state benefits if you didn't get married by gaming the system. (The validity of this meme I can't confirm)
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Yes. This concept is also used to milk divorce settlements. They won't remarry but will have an eternal boyfriend so they can collect on alimony. The system of incentives in the US encourages damaging behaviors.
 
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You can't expect kids to be interested in marriage.

Yes, I'm aware we're talking about the adult zoomers-- that wasn't a typo.

Tangential to the topic: I'm considering not getting a marriage license, since I refuse to participate in a bigamous marriage consisting of myself, my wife, and the state.

I intend on participating in the matrimonial ceremony, but tax breaks aren't worth giving the state an express pass to buck break me in divorce court. At the very least, I'm waiting for the laws to suck less, but the people who the laws benefit (women) currently aren't raring to vote in any direction towards that regardless of how willing they are to talk about how the laws do in fact suck for men.
 
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Quite frankly, the answer is because Marriage is losing/has lost much of it's value, meaning and benefits for both parties while retaining many of the downsides.

Why would a woman get married? If they have a bunch of children to different guys they get all the free shit in the world and even more now with Bidens Direct Checks for Children. "Mama got 4 kids...Mama get more than I make in a month of wellfare gibs"

For men..there is a great deal of risk and not much reward. With two working adults in the household it isn't like the housework is going to be reduced, because with two people the amount of that work doubles..and if one person isn't going to stay home to focus on it then well I am stuck with half of it anyways. Add Children into the mix you not only have extra house work, you have another money sink so instead of being able to life comfortably on part time slave wagies you have to get a "REAL FULLTIME TM" job.

So the social contract side of the concept has been completely fucked into oblivion, so that means the only real reasons to marry are if you truly love the other person which means really..no more settling. Why should I settle for someone who doesn't have the traits I find desirable in a partner when the difference between single and married is for the most part negligible.
 
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Zero Day Defense said:
I intend on participating in the matrimonial ceremony, but tax breaks aren't worth giving the state an express pass to buck break me in divorce court. At the very least, I'm waiting for the laws to suck less, but the people who the laws benefit (women) currently aren't raring to vote in any direction towards that regardless of how willing they are to talk about how the laws do in fact suck for men.
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In some states, like the one I'm in, if you cohabitate, or declare you're a married couple, or jointly own taxable property together while doing at least one of the former long enough the state will declare you married and all the shit it comes with is forced on you.
Funny enough, there was no specifics on being heterosexual for those to work so for a good while it was a loophole for gays to marry.
 
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flower tree said:
As my sociology professor said "In the modern day the majority of people get married for money and not for love" A lot of women I know don't even have a college degree and married into having a big cozy house from a guy with a STEM degree
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Nothing wrong with that. This idea that women shouldn't want to marry man capable of providing for them and the kids is part of the problem. For one it implies tending the home is easy and it's not. For another what is the alternative? Waste the the most reproductively beneficial years of your life slaving for your boss and an uncaring corporation and then dying alone 30 years after retiring? That corporation won't even send you a bon voyage card, let alone give you a hug on your last days on earth.
 
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>faggots fight for right to marry
>marriage as an institution becomes more irrelevant by the day
really gets the noggin joggin

Jokes aside, are we looking at it based on the social contract perspective or the legal contract perspective?
As far as I'm aware, there are not many advantages from a legal contract (or if there are, they're greatly diminished now). The legal contract is only beneficial if kids are involved and with all of the benefits offered to single mothers nowadays even that's more or less gone. A few years ago I heard stories of asian couples getting divorced (where fathers work and mothers generally don't) so the mother can claim to be a single mother with low income and take advantage of low income grants to send their kids to college. If this is the case, if you're an unmarried couple and have kids, why would you get married? There's a direct financial incentive not to.

In terms of a social contract, if two people want to be with each other they'll be with each other regardless of whether they informed the state or not. Marriage and divorce statistics only track what is reported to the state (either through your taxes or registrations at the county-level).
 
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Zero Day Defense said:
I intend on participating in the matrimonial ceremony, but tax breaks aren't worth giving the state an express pass to buck break me in divorce court.
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If your (or you + your spouse’s) income is at a certain level it actually becomes not a tax break at all. You won’t get any sort of one until you have kids, and even then it may be a wash if you send them to daycare.

I think your idea is generally fine in terms of not getting your marriage recognized by the state, but it wouldn’t work if you were to want to form a partnership with a foreign citizen.
Schway said:
They sure are waiting.... anytime now.
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Waiting doesn’t matter if they don’t, or at least think they don’t, want kids. I think there will be some regrets come mid-40s for some of the dead eggers, but there are probably enough of them happy with that decision as well. Either way, not my problem.
 
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