Zoomer aversion to marriage - The Consequences and Societal Rammifications

[EyelessMC]

Shit, I better hurry up because time is running out for me. I'm a 19, going on 20 year old virgin.

If you're a woman then that's a benefit these days. If you're a man then use it as your confidence, too, because you know you haven't been a man-whore slutting it up and "experimenting" throughout your youth. Fixating on virginity is how you end up an uppity Incel or one of those guys who walks with hunched shoulders and a craned neck for perpetual shame of that one time he fell for the trap meme just so he wouldn't be 25+ virgin.

The "you don't want to get old and still be a virgin!" meme is literally from people who just want to use you to cum and who don't want to feel guilty and empty about cumming, which although they do. Always. Once the orgasm passes it's over. Their brief mockery of sincere human intimacy leaves them empty and, in that emptiness, desperate for something to fill it. So they do it again and again, and mock those who don't. It's a cope.

Faux intimacy is hollow and that hollow feeling makes you as brittle as an empty eggshell.
Frivolous sex is for hollow people.

 

[Cabelaz]

I've got a case of baby fever and I'm about to make Ethan Ralph look like a paragon of healthy relationships >:]

 

[Solid Snek]

Huxley predicted this in 1931.

Progressives have been hoping for this since the middle of the 19th century. Huxley and Heinlein simply carried the utopian ideas of the ruling class down from the sitting rooms of Cambridge, and into the realm of the popular imagination.

 

[emptyblu]

This thread is depressing, but even if one zoomer wanted to get married there are several others who aren’t interested so why even bother at that point?

 

[totallyrandomusername]

Historically marriage rates rise and fall and there have been bastard children through out history.

Yes, but the current rate of marriage in the US has literally fallen steadily since 1984

It isn't just Zoomers.
Millennials are not getting married too often, either.
There are only a few married Millennial couples I know.
Most cohabitate.
I guess Zoomers are following the trend?

Same here.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Hedonism is fun, keep crying tradcucks.

So is lynching.

 

[Dyn]

So is lynching.

Lynching is illegal, keep crying tradcucks.

 

[Glowie Hunter Art Bell]

I feel like most trends like this end outside of hyper-urban areas.

I live in a medium sized town. Bulk of the 1500 or so people i graduated hs with now have kids, are married, or both. Most of them lead supremely average lives.

Trends tend to stay in urban centers.

 

[Rabid Hog]

Aren't most zoomers still children?
Why would children want to get married?

Inshallah

 

[Steinercard]

I think there are several issues with marriage nowadays. I'm all for it in theory. Hell in practice I AM getting married. But I can see with all the messed up shit around why people don't. I don't think Zoomers have it in them to be properly tradcon. Hell I don't think Gen X or Millennials did either. There's just too much internet weirdness polluting everything now. And women tend to get bored of tradcon life once they realize that they have to just stay at home. I've seen this happen to mates of mine who get a "tradcon cottagecore waifu" and then 5 years into the marriage she gets bored and wants a career. Then focuses on that to the detriment of the relationship. Someone then breaks it off because they both feel neglected in some way.

Marriage requires a little bit of maturity. Zoomers definitely don't have that. Also an understanding of long term consequences and how they can affect one's life is absent from zoomers too. You need to be able to see yourself spending the rest of your life with your partner. And even then there's unexpected things that can sour a marriage. Like finding out your wife has been keeping her only fans or escort career from you. That kinda thing.

 

[cornycat]

In my opinion, marriage sucks. (the cost of it that is), I don't believe in a big wedding. I don't think it means more than a long time relationship. I dislike that people treat as if cheating in marriage is solely worse than in a relationship. You shouldn't have meaningless relationships in general, nor should you cheat. I don't think you should fall for your carnal desires.

I think it's an act of rebellion, honestly. Couples in the west spends about 30k on marriage on average. In my opinion, it's not a big deal. The only thing I'd get married for is for sharing taxes and for them to be able to visit me at hospital visits. I'm not against people who marry, I just dislike it's treated more "special" than long time relationships. Some of us just don't want to spend money on it or make a big deal out of it. Personally, I wouldn't want to date someone and feel like my celibacy is in peril. I don't need my carnal desires to be relished to date someone.

They just want to revolt and believe they're special. Every generation has kids like these. Boomers used to be hippies at one point. They'll wake up soon, as long as they realize they have to be adults and work.

 

[cornycat]

I can't even find women as a millenial who aren't obese or have kids.It's like they act like men now, going from home to work and then back home. Online dating also is a trap that benefits none of the users. The legal landscape for men is pretty bad and seeing a guy get raked over the coals in a divorce creates a chilling effect.

Odd, I have a lot of female coworkers who are older than me and never dated. I don't see the issue with them working and going home. They're pretty nice. Just meet a female at church or something, hit it off. My older sister is 28 and never dated, yet she isn't ugly in particular or anything. I noticed a lot of women, primarily older 20's, who are single with no kids are just sophisticated. Maybe it's because I live in hawaii, so it's normal for older women to be educated here.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I’m married and we’re about to have our first child. She wants 4-5 kids and can’t wait to be a mother. She’s in her mid 20s and I’m in my mid 30s. It’s pretty cool but I had to do a lot of legwork. I had an autistic list of qualities I wanted in a waifu and would not consider anyone else. Took a while but I found her. I still put in the work into marriage, I enjoy teasing her, flirting with her, being very affectionate with her, and I have sex with her anytime I want.

I think the biggest ruiner of marriages is FOMO. I’ve seen it destroy marriages because one partner, usually the woman, thinks she’s missing out if she didn’t fuck 37 dudes. That maybe there’s something better. You can blame the media for that one because they don’t show the part where she’s 35 and has to be on all kinds of psych meds just to get through the day. Many women will never admit is because they’re taught to hate men so they’ll never admit they’d be much better off if they married their college boyfriend.

It’s easy to point the finger at women but I know way too many lazy guys who do nothing but smoke weed, watch porn, and play video games. That makes for a pretty pathetic life, can’t imagine why the panties aren’t dropping at some guy’s encyclopedic knowledge of porn.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

Yeah, let me get married and then be accused of rape for accidentally brushing my hand against my wife's back one time and then have to give her my house and money and the kids cause the courts aren't biased and the justice system isn't shit, sounds like a real good incentive to get married.

You deserve to get your asshole stretched out in divorce court if you marry a harpy like that. Think with your brain, not your penis.


Young men need to date for personality chiefly these days. We all like a trim woman with wide hips and large tits but if she's a BDP nutjob then look elsewhere. Happy wife happy life isn't just an old adage about keeping the Mrs. happy or commiseration among married men, it's also sage wisdom about what kind of woman you should shoot for. The bar is set so low these days as to trip Satan in his wine cellar, but "mentally stable" is what you're aiming for. Don't whine on the internet about how that doesn't exist, go out and look. Instead of touching grass, young men need to be touching ass.

That said I'm not saying that the system isn't a horrifically biased shitshow designed to create suffering for profit. It is and anyone participating in it is morally bankrupt.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

You deserve to get your asshole stretched out in divorce court if you marry a harpy like that. Think with your brain, not your penis.


Young men need to date for personality chiefly these days. We all like a trim woman with wide hips and large tits but if she's a BDP nutjob then look elsewhere. Happy wife happy life isn't just an old adage about keeping the Mrs. happy or commiseration among married men, it's also sage wisdom about what kind of woman you should shoot for. The bar is set so low these days as to trip Satan in his wine cellar, but "mentally stable" is what you're aiming for. Don't whine on the internet about how that doesn't exist, go out and look. Instead of touching grass, young men need to be touching ass.

That said I'm not saying that the system isn't a horrifically biased shitshow designed to create suffering for profit. It is and anyone participating in it is morally bankrupt.

The problem is dude; that in this day and age, finding a mentally stable woman is like finding a fucking pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. You practically have to just wait for an okay lady to pop up in your life randomly, as opposed to searching; cause if you search, you're going to find nothing but volatile acid pits or barren deserts ready to suck your life dry.

 

[Megatardingo]

Nothing, because nowhere in the bible it says apple. It says "fruit".

And godeth sayeth "Do noteth eateth thy apple retard", right there in the first page.

 

[Some Badger]

To be honest, I'm extremely conflicted about wanting to marry. My own parents' marriage fell apart when I was very young and a lot of my friends in grade school had divorced parents as well. It didn't help that most marriages within my extended family gradually followed my parents as well, so growing up and watching what is culturally meant to be a lasting bond erode slowly in real time has soured my perception of marriage, but I wish that wasn't the case. Part of me wants to be a dad, and a better one than my own father at that.

I can't vouch for zoomers/later millennials, but my reticent approach to marriage has nothing to do with slutting it up with a revolving door of strong independent womyn or saving money by not having kids so I can buy 5000th Funko Pop and everything to do with keeping myself from being hurt.

 

[Dread First]

I come from a culture where arranged marriages are the norm. There are quite a few reasons why this is the case, but it all generally boils down to a concern for the person that your kid's gonna marry and the type of family background that their prospective spouse comes from. In the case of the former, the logic is that your family knows you best. In the case of the latter, the logic is that marriage unifies two families. This is all well and good, but there's just one small problem: I fundamentally object to arranged marriages. Furthermore, I damn sure don't trust my family to make a life-altering decision on my behalf.

Not to PL too much here, but I'm a late millennial who has an aversion to marriage because I can't stand the fucking societal pressure (at least in my part of the world).

 

[Vince McMahon]

Our civilization is starting to crash, and the mice are doing your typical mouse paradise things they always do once the habitat is overpopulated, not mating, not reproducing, just endlessly grooming, sleeping, and eating.

But we tell ourselves stories about our biologically mandated behavior. It’s feminism. It’s divorce law. It’s porn. It’s micro plastics. It’s women being uppity/fat/mean to me. It’s men being soyboned retards.

I think we just hit the edge of the habitat and are filled with a deep nihilism too terrifying to confront directly. That, plus the collapse of living standards due to globalism and mass immigration. Ah, but I already said that our civilization is collapsing, I repeat myself.

STOP USING CALHOUN'S EXPERIMENT! BEHAVIOURAL SINK IS AN ERRONEOUS THEORY AT THE VERY LEAST BECAUSE WHAT AMOUNTS TO ABUSE TOWARDS RATS CANNOT BE HELD AS A MODEL VALID FOR HUMANS.

CALHOUN JUST HAD A NICE FUN TIME TORTURING RATS. HIS PREMISE IS FLAWED AND THE "RESEARCH" THAT SPRUNG FROM THIS IS WORTHLESS!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Ser Prize]

The Heinlein future. The adults will engage in further hedonism, the children will be raised by the State, a general breakdown of the social fabric.

this will culminate in a two pronged internal and external attack on society. The first attack will be civilians at home are terrorized by riotous gangs of youths using social causes as excuse for rampant criminality. Their criminality will be excused by the social scientists as a product of past social norms and any effort to reign in the maladjusted children will be punished by the State.

Externally, the western nations will find themselves embroiled in a destructive war with the Peoples Republic of China, which after several years of calamity will end in a Chinese victory. The combination of external military defeat and internal lawless will lead to a collapse of the western democracies.




Heinlein predicted this in the 1960s btw.

Didn't Heinlein think it was a good thing, though?