Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Matt Damon]

Ok that short old guy has clearly been waiting fucking decades for a chance to kill some Russians.

Does every Pole eventually turn into Mickey Rooney?

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Does every Pole eventually turn into Mickey Rooney?

You could tell me that was a lookalike contest and I'd believe it.

 

[Simpadoo]

All of that means nothing if you do not have the will to win, and the US has not had that since WW2 ended.

They have a funny way of showing it with the best kill ratio so far.

 

[Octavia]

Look how turned on she is.

She's pretty cute tbh. Putin's lucky he gets to be a total sperg and have QT milf stewardesses fall on him like that.

 

[Reddit Gold]

Lukashenko's Belarus is so shite, it's cucked even by starved and desperate refugees.

 

[Jump]

Everyone is trying to catch up to the U.S. in terms of tech and stuff but they have enormous holes in their militaries.

You could say that the U.S. would capitulate if 5.000 marines died in 1 day but no one has found out if that would play out in reality but this is an imagined hole in our collective theories of what the U.S. would fare in a battle for world hegemony.

Modern US society would never stand for 5,000 killed in a day. Or even a month.
It would need to be spread out slowly like Afghanistan where it took 20 years for 2400 to die. And with modern access to outrage via social media that may not even fly anymore.
So if the US ever faced off in a ground war against a real country I think the US would have real problems back home. Vietnam didn't have anything near a daily number like that and that war ripped the county apart.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I took no position and if you saw a pro- or anti- stance for Russia or Ukraine it's entirely in your own imagination and you're arguing against your own imagination.

What I actually said is that I see this as more than a war between Russia and Ukraine. It's the most significant instance of military action without the assent of the the UN since its formation, and represents a struggle for the right to war itself. Without a right to wage war, a country isn't really sovereign. Do sovereign countries besides the United States exist today? The question is answered by Russia now.

If they fold because of economic hardships, then no. Only the United States is sovereign and war is only conducted with the permission of the United States.

If Russia succeeds, and particularly if an Eastern Bloc emerges to challenge the United States's global hegemony of finance, then Globohomo has lost a significant amount of power (or the pursuit of world peace has been set back between 30 ~ 80 years, depending on your perspective).

That's my take. My position is anti-US because I have been mistreated by the US hegemony over finance. It is not pro-Russia.


Now please, kill yourself, retard nigger.

Aren't there plenty of third world countries that are in armed conflict with each other?
And with first world countries the reason for a lack of war is that there is no reason for it - the open market is better method to enslave local populace than occupation, and the local population is stagnant so there is no need for more territory.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Lukashenko's Belarus is so shite, it's cucked even by starved and desperate refugees.
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Man you know your country is shit when people would rather go to fucking MOLDOVA.

 

[Matt Damon]

They have a funny way of showing it with the best kill ratio so far.

If there's one thing that the era of American hegemony should prove beyond any doubt, it's that kill ratio has vanishingly little bearing on with actually accomplishing foreign policy goals.

 

[Inebriated Raccoon]

Imagine losing both legs, a finger and your dick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_of_Andrey_Sychyov

Here are the punishments of the men responsible for the beating:

Alexander Sivyakov:
4 years imprisonment
Stripped of rank (Junior Sergeant)
Barred from holding command for 3 years

Pavel Kuzmenko and Gennady Bilimovich:
Suspended sentence (1.5 years)
1 year probation

So, Andrey will never be able to walk and experience sexual pleasure again and these dudes only served a short prison sentence and probation?

 

[Übertroon]

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

I've been struggling to put into words why I (soft) support Russia in this mess and this post has given me a eurieka moment. It's not that Putin is particularly great or shares my values, he isn't and doesn't. Putin is a backlash to the rapid decommunisation that happened immediately after the Soviet collapse and the aids omelette that was the Yeltsin administration. I would prefer a healthy western culture that strives to maximise freedom, prosperity and liberty.

However as things stand and will continue to stand as long as Globohomo is in charge; I should expect society to become ever poorer and ever more repressive. The global elites have used the global monopolar power dynamic to make themselves ever richer at the expense of the welfare of citizens from each nation state, and eventually the entire globe. The only way Globohomo can get removed is through competition (as it's shit and relies on monopolistic powers) internal and external.

The best source of competition internally would be some kind of nationalism/localism focused on issues that people actually care about and ever neglected by the TPTB. For me Trump was a good start to that and what is required is for grassroots movements to start enveloping the GOP. As far as something that can replace globohomo/neoliberalism goes it's the only alternative with electoral backing.

Now back to Russia and the Ukrainian invasion. The best thing that can happen is to stymie to Globohomo on the international level would be a competing power, which will be a coalition. A China/Russia/India coalition would provide that and revert geopolitics back to a duopolar state. This will be the point where the US and the west in general would have to smarten up. Their continued existence would depend upon it, no more free fiefdoms for the global elite to squeeze. They continue to squeeze too hard and they will lose it all.

If Russia is mostly successful in Ukraine and weathers the sanctions; probably with Chinese assistance. Then the game changes both domestically and internationally and blows the doors wide open for substantive change made impossible under our current system.

This could work!

You like Russia and China would totally not feel you in prison for Holocaust denier
Tik-Tok is not filled with a bunch of homosexual propaganda I wonder who owns that platform
No one's coming to save you you have to save yourself

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Lukashenko's Belarus is so shite, it's cucked even by starved and desperate refugees.
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On the flip side, a few million right wing leaning refugee's is exactly what europe needs right now. Empty the whole country of 40 million and
Western Europe changes forever and the great replacement may reverse itself.




Now we just need a few million in america

 

[b0x]

In an attempt to prove its claim of capturing significant numbers of Russian soldiers, officials in Ukraine have organised for groups of POWs to be presented in a number of press conferences. Images show three Russian prisoners of war, including a lieutenant colonel, being presented to a press conference in Ukrainian capital of Kyiv earlier this week. A masked Ukrainian soldier sits with a rifle in between his legs facing them nearby. The sight of POWs being presented to the media are a frequent occurrence, with captured soldiers in another reported conference reading out statements that admit the Russian offensive had suffered setbacks early in the war.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10581195/Ukraine-parades-Russian-prisoners-war-press-conferences.html

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Here are the punishments of the men responsible for the beating:

Alexander Sivyakov:
4 years imprisonment
Stripped of rank (Junior Sergeant)
Barred from holding command for 3 years

Pavel Kuzmenko and Gennady Bilimovich:
Suspended sentence (1.5 years)
1 year probation

So, Andrey will never be able to walk and experience sexual pleasure again and these dudes only served a short prison sentence and probation?

Russian military hazing is really fucked up. It's more surprising they got punished at all. Ffs amnesty international considers having to be in the Russian military a human rights violation because of how bad it is.

 

[Jump]

Where did you get that clip from?

It's floating around Russian /pol/.

https://2ch.hk/po/res/46841864.html#46843182

I don't care enough to google translate all their shitposts to see what they think.

I just go there for the memes

 

[MeltyTW]

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oh shit theyre using the ol dutch strat

Modern US society would never stand for 5,000 killed in a day. Or even a month.
It would need to be spread out slowly like Afghanistan where it took 20 years for 2400 to die. And with modern access to outrage via social media that may not even fly anymore.
So if the US ever faced off in a ground war against a real country I think the US would have real problems back home. Vietnam didn't have anything near a daily number like that and that war ripped the county apart.

apparently the workaround now is to get reddittors to froth at the mouth to cancel ethnic russians and stab them in the neck

If there's one thing that the era of American hegemony should prove beyond any doubt, it's that kill ratio has vanishingly little bearing on with actually accomplishing foreign policy goals.

tbf those Vietnamese fuckers just refused to fucking die. ive squished cockroach nests less resilient but yeah it means nothing when world leaders here are subject to the whims of a public thatll hold "stop the war man" festivals and boycotts riots what have you if the population isnt Americanized and subordinated totally within a news cycle or between harry potter releases.

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In an attempt to prove its claim of capturing significant numbers of Russian soldiers, officials in Ukraine have organised for groups of POWs to be presented in a number of press conferences. Images show three Russian prisoners of war, including a lieutenant colonel, being presented to a press conference in Ukrainian capital of Kyiv earlier this week. A masked Ukrainian soldier sits with a rifle in between his legs facing them nearby. The sight of POWs being presented to the media are a frequent occurrence, with captured soldiers in another reported conference reading out statements that admit the Russian offensive had suffered setbacks early in the war.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10581195/Ukraine-parades-Russian-prisoners-war-press-conferences.html

..... i dont remember if its normal or not to alog pows on live tv to dick wave, is that a thing?

Where did you get that clip from?

I watched video in the link you sent and I don't see Putin's hand clipping through the mic.

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Also, it just seems way too real for it to be digitally altered. The lighting of Putin himself fits the lighting in the environment to a tee, his body has as much detail as the people around him, and the objects around him don't seem to be altered whenever Putin moves (e.g. Putin's arms cannot be seen thru the teapot on his left, even when he gestures).

If it is true that Putin is uncomfortable when talking to people, I guess that's why he chose to be around a bunch of women, who are more likely to stay quiet in the presence of high-status individuals.

I am guessing you got this clip from a pro-Ukrainian source that altered Putin's hand so that it looked like it went over the mic, but I need the source of that clip to confirm this.

what is this schizophrenia? am i not hip with modern war? is this what it is? making edits or theorizing about edits to see if your world leader is as big a hologram using asocial sperg as the enemy said?

 

[b0x]

Globalhomo is really pulling out all the stops.

Hundreds of thousands band together across European capitals in a sea of yellow and blue to hear Ukrainian President Zelensky speak and thank them for their support​

• People gathered to watch Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in central squares across Europe
• The Ukrainian President spoke live to hundreds of thousands gathered in a live video message on Friday night
• Squares in Frankfurt, Germany; Tbilisi, Georgia; Vilnius, Lithuania; Prague, Czech Republic; Vienna, Austria, Lyon and Paris, France were packed
• Flags and signs decorated in the Ukrainian colors of yellow and blue could be seen as people gathered to listen to the president and show their support for the country as Russia's invasion continues

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10580251/Europe-unites-hundreds-thousands-support-Ukraine-Paris-Tiblisi-Rome-Lyon-Vilnius.html

 

[Dave_Ph]

Look who our Ukraine hero's mom is. Supreme Court Justice Elana Kagan.
And another surprise

"Nuland's husband, Robert Kagan, is a historian, foreign policy commentator at the Brookings Institution, and co-founder in 1998 of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC).[41]"

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

If the US and NATO would enter this on the side of the Russians it’d be over in a day.

And hats what matters, right?