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Well, they better get to it then. Before Ukies turn the city into a fortified hellhole that'd need to be levelled just to pry them out.
Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread
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Someone get those pups out of there. Also I love all these internet experts who 100% know this spine and ribcage are Russian, as if it couldn't be any Ukie, Redditor, or Chechen that is fighting in there as well.
Because Ukraine has been bound to the West since they couped the government in 2014. The whole country has been run by the State Department since and been used for all sorts of shady shit and money laundering. It's why so many western politicians have business interests there and so many Ukrainian elite have property and citizenship in Western states. All of this propaganda is specifically for pretending the whole country is a wholesome liberal democracy and not a corrupt shithole just like it's neighbor Russia.
Ukraine is what Russia would be today if the West had kept Yeltsin's in charge, not that Putin is much better.
That is pretty kino not going to lie.
And their jogger tier criminality will be covered up by the media as well. I'm sure there are already deboonkers who are told the Azov Battalion is only 0.00000001% Nazi and loves democracy who deny they can rape women.
These are Slavs we are talking about. Rape has always been a way of life in Slavdom.
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Krasovsky is a propagandist, basically a journopig of the highest degree, and Sobchak is a dumb bitch with a horse-face, basically a Californian made in Russia who is despised by the Russian population. Her only saving grace is that her father was a boss of Putin's and he is her godfather.
The video was shot at the Maidan on February 14, 2014.
Despite this pair being scumbugs, they actually argue against national-Ukranian ideologies, even if they wore those silly costumes.
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Just got in here this morning. My take, from what little I know...Russia's pulling back from Kyiv, maybe other cities in north, concentrating in southeast. Talks underway, this time apparently more substantial.
Observations. When compared with Russia's initial strategy of a quick decapitation strike, this is a loss for Russia. Their conventional forces have been shown to be inept. Military leadership model ineffective and highly dangerous to commanders. Logistics poor, morale among most troops not good. VDV utterly wasted. Russia must now deal with economic sanctions, which may or may not be relaxed with an agreement to end the war. Militaries and intelligence services all over collecting a bonanza of information re Russia. Russian conventional threat to NATO perceived as much weaker, but won't stop some measure of NATO buildup. Endemic graft and corruption will hamper any recovery within Russia's military. Ukraine won't join NATO but will get a lot of help rebuilding and rearming. Their defensive strategy has been rather successful. If the odds had been just a little more even the Ukes would have thrown the Russians out this time. Believe they will next time.
Observations. When compared with Russia's initial strategy of a quick decapitation strike, this is a loss for Russia. Their conventional forces have been shown to be inept. Military leadership model ineffective and highly dangerous to commanders. Logistics poor, morale among most troops not good. VDV utterly wasted. Russia must now deal with economic sanctions, which may or may not be relaxed with an agreement to end the war. Militaries and intelligence services all over collecting a bonanza of information re Russia. Russian conventional threat to NATO perceived as much weaker, but won't stop some measure of NATO buildup. Endemic graft and corruption will hamper any recovery within Russia's military. Ukraine won't join NATO but will get a lot of help rebuilding and rearming. Their defensive strategy has been rather successful. If the odds had been just a little more even the Ukes would have thrown the Russians out this time. Believe they will next time.
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Remember kids, they aren't retreating. They are just drastically reducing their operations around Kiev.
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None of which will be hampered by endemic graft and corruption. Слава Украiне.
It is you omitting little details like this that makes me doubt the veracity of the rest of your analysis.
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Aren't most of Azov either dead or trapped in Maripol? According to the map, most Russian sources they have broken the central military command structure of Ukraine and the remaining Ukrainian fighting forces are autonomous. Idk how that true that is, but I tend to believe the person who hasn't been outright lying to me for the last month over the person who has.
But fair enough, if the war ends and they agree to peace and the Donbaus Republics lies are recognized, Chrimea and that peace of land north of it that controls the water supply to it is Russian, Ukraine agrees not to join Nato nor have any bases/labs of Nato in its borders, BUT Zelenskys goverment stays in charge, Ukraine still claims to have a military, and Nazis are still roaming the wild streets of Ukraine I guess it's fair to say Russia lost and it was all for naught.
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The whole thing with negotiations may be fake and gay, but if it's true, that leaves two general possibilities:
1) West deescalates. That'll allow Putin to regroup and consolidate his power. Therefore, Russian revanchist delusions will become even stronger, more resources will be diverted to military-industrial complex and in 10ish years you can expect Z-army "take two" on Ukraine. There's a small possibility of coup, but its beneficiaries would likely be even more hawkish than Putin. In the end, you'd still have a ticking time bomb that hasn't been defused (or, in Russkies' newspeak, "denazified and demilitarized"). In general, I consider it as a bad ending.
2) West will continue to mount pressure until Putin is removed from power. That'll have profound consequences. Russian agriculture industry is heavily dependent on Western industrial components and machinery. In 6-10 months, Russia will start losing its industrial and transportation capabilities. Planes will start crashing, crops will rot in the fields not being harvested, production and repair of tanks and IFVs will stop. If the West is smart enough, they'll start nurture separatist movements at this moment. At first, it would be economic separatism (local governments hoarding food and products to keep the population satisfied. And since governor's KPI are linked to popular support, the Kremlin would be satisfied, too.), later the regions will realize that Russia is a toxic brand and will seek ways to distance themselves from it. Why should KhMAO send its oil taxes to Moscow when its oil industry is crippled by sanctions imposed on Russia? Why Tatarstan should lose all export revenue from KAMAZ? Why Kirovskaya oblast or Karelia should suffer from cutting their ties to Finnish furniture makers?
Well, there is a solution: balkanize Russia. That's unfathomably based. At last, Russian people will be free from homogenizing central authority of Moscow. At last, different regions and nations will be able to have different laws. tax codes and ideology. At last, long and painful decay of Russian Empire will reach its end.
The West has one in a lifetime opportunity to curate the final solution to Russian Empire problem. I hope they won't blow it.
1) West deescalates. That'll allow Putin to regroup and consolidate his power. Therefore, Russian revanchist delusions will become even stronger, more resources will be diverted to military-industrial complex and in 10ish years you can expect Z-army "take two" on Ukraine. There's a small possibility of coup, but its beneficiaries would likely be even more hawkish than Putin. In the end, you'd still have a ticking time bomb that hasn't been defused (or, in Russkies' newspeak, "denazified and demilitarized"). In general, I consider it as a bad ending.
2) West will continue to mount pressure until Putin is removed from power. That'll have profound consequences. Russian agriculture industry is heavily dependent on Western industrial components and machinery. In 6-10 months, Russia will start losing its industrial and transportation capabilities. Planes will start crashing, crops will rot in the fields not being harvested, production and repair of tanks and IFVs will stop. If the West is smart enough, they'll start nurture separatist movements at this moment. At first, it would be economic separatism (local governments hoarding food and products to keep the population satisfied. And since governor's KPI are linked to popular support, the Kremlin would be satisfied, too.), later the regions will realize that Russia is a toxic brand and will seek ways to distance themselves from it. Why should KhMAO send its oil taxes to Moscow when its oil industry is crippled by sanctions imposed on Russia? Why Tatarstan should lose all export revenue from KAMAZ? Why Kirovskaya oblast or Karelia should suffer from cutting their ties to Finnish furniture makers?
Well, there is a solution: balkanize Russia. That's unfathomably based. At last, Russian people will be free from homogenizing central authority of Moscow. At last, different regions and nations will be able to have different laws. tax codes and ideology. At last, long and painful decay of Russian Empire will reach its end.
The West has one in a lifetime opportunity to curate the final solution to Russian Empire problem. I hope they won't blow it.
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Baby's first Jihad.
It's because they see shit through the lenses of capeshit. Everything is black and white to them and there is no moral grey area. Hence why Azov are good guys, Ukies aren't treating their civvies like shit, and Russia is genociding six gorillion Ukrainian babies every hour.
Shit like this is all a trend for westerners and it is disgusting. They support stuff because it is popular and for clout only, nothing else.
The mental gymnastics the ADL has never ceases to surprise me, then again they only put black nationalists on their hate group lists if and only if said groups hate Jews as much as they hate whites.
We will be paying taxes to aid Chechen jihadists soon won't we?
These guys being the equivalent of bedouin warlords in the 19th century aside they look like a interesting group to hang around.
They don't attack Jews (Yet) so they're good!
That's standard fort he West and US especially post Cold War. Everyone must play by their rules and their rules alone. It's the basis for every backed revolution, coup, or military intervention we have witnessed so far.
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Why does he look at his hand like it's covered in shit?
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We wuz Ukrangs and sheeiit
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This is the Indian PM we're talking about here.
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Not a politician and speaking strictly for myself, but to me the cost of this adventure vastly outweights the listed benefits. Possibly because I never saw a NATO sponsored invasion launched from Ukraine as a real possibility.
Call me a bourgeous philistine, but the stark drop in the quality of life for 144 million people and yet another step towards North Korea-type ostracised police state are a steep price to pay for what amounts to a demilitarized border with Poland.
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Bourgeois philistine? According to Putin you are a clay-less fifth columnist who would sell their own mother to sleep on Globohomo's lap.
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Yeah, I love him too.
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I think that it's US/NATO who dictates Zelensky.
In a few hours Biden will have a phone call with officials from UK, France, Germany and Italy to discuss the situation in Ukraine.
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T'is not about the NATO sponsored Ukranian invasion of Russia. Or even of Crimea, though that is a bit more of a hot topic.
T'is about enforcing a red line. The enforcement of which is more important than the line itself. About showing that Russia will use military force in advancement of its interests. That the "bear has awakened from its slumber" and that essentially the west must consider realpolitik again and not just "democratic values of self determination" or what ever, that are constantly subverted by various great powers (western and non-western) through the use of think tanks, conditioned career paths, self censorship on social media, NGO pressure and so much more - let alone the fact that they clearly aren't respected in all cases such as in Catalonia. I.e. mostly hollow principles that in the end themselves are subject to geopolitics.
It is the rise of a multipolar world.
Sadly each pole is shittier than the last.
Truly, a Pole cannot into space since the Soviet Union and in the same way each new pole formed digs itself deeper into autocracy and corruption rather than striving for new heights.
Hell on Earth
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They fucked up by leaving a lot of pockets behind in the eastern side of kiev and that fucked their supply lines and they then they had to defend a big flank in the western side of Kiev.
They really didn't exploit their enormous firepower by not launching an attritional war because they thought the country would fall really easy.
Yeah, a loss for Russia in some places but my guess is that they'll redeploy the units into more secure places to resuply and to launch a slow war of attrition that takes advantage of their superior firepower.
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