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[the fall of man]

They will never get a left-wing Tuck so long as they are the establishment. You cannot be the charismatic underdog and wield the keys to the kingdom simultaneously.

You're underestimating the very real possibility the lunatic fringe will redefine oppression and news-Vaush gets a segment

Not unexpected or anything, but 2 dozen is hardly a definitive sample size to make any real conclusions from.

And yet this is completely believable journologic

 

[Garm]

They could lift sanctions on Russia. That would have a much more immediate effect on gas prices, I would imagine. How bad do things have to get in the USA before they're willing to do that, do you think?

Ukraine has to admit defeat. That would be the first obstacle. Which would lead to the US suffering yet another military defeat in less than a year.

And even then Russia would get to dictate terms and Putin being smug while NATO goes hat in hand begging for oil would be the worst for Biden.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I guess Jill might be afraid then Uncle Creepy Jo might talk too much.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1537851764623409154

 

[Gar For Archer]

Ukraine has to admit defeat. That would be the first obstacle. Which would lead to the US suffering yet another military defeat in less than a year.

And even then Russia would get to dictate terms and Putin being smug while NATO goes hat in hand begging for oil would be the worst for Biden.

Honestly I don’t think this war ends without the collapse of the Putin regime, possibly with his death of rumors of his ill health are to be believed.

Like, they have no win condition here. Even if they reclaim Ukraine, so what? They’ll still be blackballed from the global economy, and they still will have suffered an embarrassing military campaign that humiliated them on the world stage. On the other hand, I certainly do not see Putin backing down and bowing to NATO.

I think the only way this ends is an internal coup with Putin as the fall guy who all the blame for the war is placed on. If this doesn’t happen, I’m sure Putin is more than happy to take the world economy down with Russia.

 

[Sithis]

So it seems that Bidens new deflection regarding inflation is "how could it be my fault? It's happening everywhere and it's even worse there, how is that my fault?"

Well, I haven't actually done much research on currency inflation specifically in other countries, BUTTTT....
Didn't most of the other countries Dems typically hoist as positive examples (Canada, UK, France, Germany, Australia, NZ) all do similar stimulus/unemployment/forced lockdown type measures to what we did, except many of them did it even harder?
I mean, just saying, if it did turn out that those other countries are experiencing record breaking inflation following their engagement in identical processes to those that we are accusing Biden of causing inflation by pushing past their exp. point, isn't that actually kinda sorta proof that Biden is responsible?

 

[Garm]

Honestly I don’t think this war ends without the collapse of the Putin regime, possibly with his death of rumors of his ill health are to be believed.

Like, they have no win condition here. Even if they reclaim Ukraine, so what? They’ll still be blackballed from the global economy, and they still will have suffered an embarrassing military campaign that humiliated them on the world stage. On the other hand, I certainly do not see Putin backing down and bowing to NATO.

I think the only way this ends is an internal coup with Putin as the fall guy who all the blame for the war is placed on.

Problem with the rumors of Putin's ill health are that they come from the same people publishing "Ghost of Kiev" stories.

I don't think Russia is going to incorporate the Donbass and instead turn them into separate countries.

Russia has changed tactics and may well end up breaking the Ukrainian army. The "Miracle Army of Kiev" has been ground into a very fine paste now.

And China is backing Russia all the way.
As a matter of fact

Boy howdy. Lookit all the countries that sanctioned Russia. (In green.)

In the end, Russia is probably doing okay.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Honestly I don’t think this war ends without the collapse of the Putin regime, possibly with his death of rumors of his ill health are to be believed.

Like, they have no win condition here. Even if they reclaim Ukraine, so what? They’ll still be blackballed from the global economy, and they still will have suffered an embarrassing military campaign that humiliated them on the world stage. On the other hand, I certainly do not see Putin backing down and bowing to NATO.

I think the only way this ends is an internal coup with Putin as the fall guy who all the blame for the war is placed on. If this doesn’t happen, I’m sure Putin is more than happy to take the world economy down with Russia.

Problem with the rumors of Putin's ill health are that they come from the same people publishing "Ghost of Kiev" stories.

I don't think Russia is going to incorporate the Donbass and instead turn them into separate countries.

Russia has changed tactics and may well end up breaking the Ukrainian army. The "Miracle Army of Kiev" has been ground into a very fine paste now.

And China is backing Russia all the way.
As a matter of fact
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Boy howdy. Lookit all the countries that sanctioned Russia. (In green.)

In the end, Russia is probably doing okay.

Russia has excellent relations with anyone country outside of NATO and the Anglosphere in general like many African countries as well as India and China and Turkey.

There is also the issue of Pakistan and which way it leans after the political turmoil over there ends but overall the Middle East has been silent on Russia invading Ukraine, which is partly why Biden is running to kiss the the ass of MBS.

The only nations that really hate Russia are the ones that have historically hated it anyways to begin with and that is nothing new.

Biden has definitely benefitted Russia's economy and the response of the West to Russia with additional cancel culture retardation well has damaged relations for a long long time.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

response of the West to Russia with additional cancel culture retardation well has damaged relations for a long long time.

If people were as hysterical over the USSR as the Laptop Caste is over Russia, we'd have gone to nukes in like 1960.

Holy shit, they're fucking deranged.

 

[make_it_so]

Russia has excellent relations with anyone country outside of NATO and the Anglosphere in general like many African countries as well as India and China and Turkey.

There is also the issue of Pakistan and which way it leans after the political turmoil over there ends but overall the Middle East has been silent on Russia invading Ukraine, which is partly why Biden is running to kiss the the ass of MBS.

The only nations that really hate Russia are the ones that have historically hated it anyways to begin with and that is nothing new.

Biden has definitely benefitted Russia's economy and the response of the West to Russia with additional cancel culture retardation well has damaged relations for a long long time.

This was noted in the Ukraine war happenings thread, but part of the reason the Arab countries have been very reluctant to sanction Russia is because Russia is a major source for their basic foodstuffs. With the possibility of global famine, they don't want to rock the boat with Russia now, because the last time there were food shortages in the Middle East the Arab Spring happened.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

They are mostly the same because america is already hitting all the checkbox we did

• Economy fucked by a moron? check
• Blaming everyone for your fuck ups (Biden blaming last administration/putin, we blamed Bush/Obama/Trump or Colombia)? check
• Both sides of the political spectrum hate each other and there is no way to reconcile it? check
• Fuel shortages? soon, the only difference here is that it took years here to rise the price because Chavez was scared of another Caracazo (where the plebs destroyed the capital because the government raised like 0,5 cents the fuel) but
• Fuel production fucked? check only that in our case was by sheer incompetence
• Election stolen? check
• A huge nothingburger to use to maul political enemies? check (our case was the 11A, a huge ass protest that was so intense that manage to remove chavez... for 2 days)
• Bread lines? not yet but you are showing the first symptoms in our case was Flour then ironically Coca Cola then we got hit by the great shitfest that lasted years in your case is baby formula

The only point of grace we have is that our own government despise the troons so they dont have any power or pull like their first world cousins

Did you have guns?

Either way, whether the rebrand succeeds or fails is irrelevant, as the success of the Warner-Discovery merger doesn’t exactly hinge on a dying news network. Besides, the Discovery CEO is an open Trump supporter so it’s not like he’s going to shift it back to its old, also failing political leaning if the rebrand fails to land.

I would laugh so hard if CNN just became the Trump network.

Oh, what if he sells it to Donald at a discount? That would be even funnier.

 

[CrippleThreat]

When Van Jones of all people becomes the voice of reason, something is very, very wrong.

He's always had seldom moments where he's been telling these niggas this shit, but he's still an über leftist.

 

[Sithis]

When Van Jones of all people becomes the voice of reason, something is very, very wrong.

It's his black man instinct coming in. He might personally be dumb enough to parrot their stupid talking points to an extent but he still has some survival instinct.

 

[ForTheHoard]

When Van Jones of all people becomes the voice of reason, something is very, very wrong.

Don't forget that queer fake cried on national TV when Biden won.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Don't forget that queer fake cried on national TV when Biden won.

Damn, that is some bad acting.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Woodrow Wilson really was a giant cunt since they using a law from his time to take down Assange.

The piece is too long from Glen Greenwald so posting the link to it here.

The UK's Decision to Extradite Assange Shows Why The US/UK's Freedom Lectures Are a Farce

And related KF thread.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/uk-app...er-julian-assanges-extradition-to-u-s.121849/

Don't forget that queer fake cried on national TV when Biden won.

Damn, that is some bad acting.

Don't forget the "whitelash" when Trump won in 2016.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

I'm unsure why this is such a stigma for Americans (Europeans seems less hostile to the idea). Isn't it a good thing that you can keep a close eye on your parents?

Partly because of the “This is my house!” thing that comes with your father being brought in that will happen, which someone already brought up. This is why people usually have a room for their moms but not their dads. Even the real estate agencies name certain spaces “for your mother-in-law”, so there’s that.

Also, there is a problem with a good chunk of the previous generation being pure shit in terms of parenting, to the point where they can’t be trusted anymore. If your parents went out of their way to make life hell to feel powerful, they’re not going to be welcome in the house.

Moving out and owning your own home ("the American dream") has been Banker propaganda to sell mortgages since at least the end of WWII. It has since evolved into simply "moving out on your own" so that (now corporate) land lords can get in on the action with ridiculous rent prices.

The American public has literally been brainwashed into thinking that if you don't abandon your family and throw all your money away, you're the worst kind of loser there is.

It isn’t abandoning your family. Americans literally just want a place to call their own, where they can retreat to have their own personal time. For decades the elites and “families” have been trying to fight this.

Elites because of a chance of someone being smart enough to get a home being smart enough to build something that can topple their market share.

“Families”, consisting mostly of people that thought it was supposed to be “their time” at some point in their lives, want to force dependency onto their kids to make the “see how right they are”, which is why you see family schisms these days. Not all of it is progressive children or parents being dumbasses, families that are to the right of stupid have a problem with its members fucking things up too.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Also, there is a problem with a good chunk of the previous generation being pure shit in terms of parenting, to the point where they can’t be trusted anymore.

Gex-X, by and large, HATES the fucking Boomers that went to the bars and left them alone as latchkey kids.

We got our own houses to get the fuck away from our parents. I knew a lot of people who pulled their siblings along with them just to get them the fuck out of the situation.

 

[HackerX]

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Regarding your points on inflation, pretty much spot on. Inflation is managed by one thing and one thing only (unless you're Jerome Powell or the Biden admin, then you're just an idiot) and that is monetary policy. Almost 14 or so years of slim to none interest rate hikes by the federal reserve is unexplainable. There's a period where you allow the economy to recover, but that point during the Obama era (but raising interest rates make economy bad and can't do that while a D is in office).

They were beginning raising rates under Trump, but then covid hit and it was a double whammy. Not only did rates go back down, but the money printer go brrrrr was in full effect. Now, the federal reserve is supposed to be a PROACTIVE force and not reactive and this 75 point hike is inconsequential and meaningless. One guy I listen to suspects there are going to be several 100 point hikes in the near future, if not 200+, and I can't really disagree. Powell is blaming the supply chain or some horseshit, which makes no fucking sense but whatever, at the moment we are still chasing inflation which is very very bad.

Same youtube guy I referenced above mentions how one of the good decisions Jimmy Carter made was nominating Paul Volckler to the head of the fed. Because in a similar situation to now, he essentially doubled the fed's interest rate (from around 11% up to 20%) and low and behold inflation began going down. (Who would have thunk?)

Obviously this opens up a new can of worms because the economy WILL be bad, unemployment IS going to increase, and all that fun stuff. Unfortunately, that's the shit we absolutely need to happen to get housing prices into the realm of your average dude again.

The only bright spot is that no matter how much the media will scream the incoming shitshow is Trump/Republican's fault, the blunt impact is going to take place while a Democrat is in office. However, the average person who doesn't sit on CNN/MSNBC/Twitter all day is only to see this shit happened with Biden.

Here's that channel I mentioned. I only found it the other day, but the few I've watched were great.

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMaverickofWallStreet

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

India did some shit very much like this. Modi declared the two largest denomination notes to be officially worthless and then gave everyone something like a few weeks to exchange theirs for new bills, all so they could track wealth and payments more effectively. Anti corruption but pro tyranny. Or maybe a better way to think of it is as a consolidation of corruption.

Did it succeed or did it fall apart?

I might be late on this, but IIRC it backhanded their economy something fierce. As in it killed their economic growth that would have gotten them up to the “first world” standard by now. They had nothing but a giant clusterfuck from the word go. Sad thing is, they could have just improved the quality of police for once, but no, gotta take the idiot route.

 

[Fake Steve Franssen]

Tucker Carlson reads Ashley Biden's shower diary (6:30): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=460LLa5yhEU