Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Procrastinhater]

Were you born this cringe or was there an online course you paid for?

I like this one he's funny. He's been coming here for years off and on. He pops up every now again like le epic troll, says some weird shit and then dissappears for months.
Its like a surprise visit from a dancing monkey that wears a different hat everytime it shows up. You never know when he's gonna appear. He's like Batman.
Or Scatman I guess, considering the fetish shit.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

I like this one he's funny. He's been coming here for years off and on. He pops up every now again like le epic troll, says some weird shit and then dissappears for months.
Its like a surprise visit from a dancing monkey that wears a different hat everytime it shows up. You never know when he's gonna appear. He's like Batman.
Or Scatman I guess, considering the fetish shit.

Only one Scatman for me.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Only one Scatman for me.

That tune reminds me of an absolutely Islamic video I saw once where someone had cut that guy singing "I'm the Scatman" over fucking Scat Porn, Nick Bate videos, and Pasta Ssempa shouting "Deeepah!" and "Stackafalaisah!" I never saved it because I didn't want that shit on my hard drive but it was fucking side splitting if you could get past the gross fucking visuals.

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

Were you born this cringe or was there an online course you paid for?

It’s free and called Discord

 

[frap]

I don't think there is an "alternative treatment", philias are sexual orientations

Fuck off with that NAMBLA level reasoning. Sexual orientation refers to which sex you're attracted to and nothing else. I don't give a damn how the queer theorists and simping psychologists have tried to soften the language. But I can't say I'm surprised to see a troon trying to argue things like paedophilia are just sexual orientations. AGP is just peak narcissism. Stop forcing the rest of us to witness and thus participate in your degeneracy in public.

(Edit: typo)

 

[Flexo]

Only one Scatman for me.

Danny Kaye should at least be your second pick.

 

[sleepdeprived]

There's something to be said about people you hate transitioning as well - it's pure kino. You get to laugh about the dogshit man-fetishizing/woman-fetishizing name they choose, the uncanny selfies, the "journey"-posting - and if they're particularly online, you'll eventually be subject to "why is dating so hard" and "why won't people stop staring" posts. I love it when a motherfucker I hate sees a few trans positivity posts and heavily edited selfies and decides to opt into experimentally turning their endocrine system upside down for purely cosmetic reasons. What have they got to lose anyways? Troonery is almost always the last-ditch effort of the totally unremarkable to do something interesting with their lives.

If it's a woman, you'll see her in 8 months posting on r/detrans about how she’s thrown away her social and sexual capital to get a fridge of a body, uncontrollable cystic acne and male pattern baldness. If it's a man, you'll see him in a few years finally coming to terms with how he’s completely destroyed the healthy relationships in his life with friends and family to chase a fetish and has destroyed his fertility in the process. And those are the more self-aware ones: the most useful idiots stop hormonal intervention because they hit a wall where hormones could only do so much and are too cowardly to get surgical intervention, so they transition to being non-binary. Every fucking time.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

I've never actually seen anyone desist irl....

I do see one or two older (35+) trans people who have pulled new lives together from the ashes of their old ones, and seem happier - or at least more financially stable. They make me wonder if it's possible to find happiness regardless of whether you're male or female or have undergone tragic medical procedures (which seems like it should be a thing, right?)

 

[Kiwi No.4989]

Friend really said she passes 99% of the time. ...That's just people being nice...
Trying to figure out if she was still sane lead to the worst case scenario I guess - is sympathetic to the MtF, writes people like Yaniv off as "not actually trans," but won't defend someone like Blaire White. AKA not a based tranny.
Send help.

 

[MetalParakeet]

Haha, I'm a dropout, but a senior CS engineer. Been programming as long as I remember myself. I really am the stereotype, aside from not owning any pink-striped thigh-highs.

Well, Dad turned out to drown his marriage in alcohol all while screaming at me how I'm the one ruining my life and beating the rest of the kids, so... yeah. He got his karma.

Again, I think "cult shit" is an overdescription for my situation at least. I'm not in a country with inane self-ID laws like you losers are. And the "trans community" is honestly not a huge part in my life, so it's whatever. But I hope me & SO get on some common ground on that, there's probably genuine feelings behind this change in her that need to be talked through.

I'm 100% a freak, sorry. Poly shit, BDSM shit. I'm not as intensely into AGP as some people are - it's more of a longing for something not present - but it's definitely the best description of my sexuality I've found so far. Honestly, I'm mad that Blanchard's theory got no scientific continuation - I always knew the bill of "at-birth trans" doesn't fit either me or like 80% of trans people I interact with, and this framework has a lot of genuine predictive power. I wish people over at Mumsnet stopped getting their pearls in a knot after hearing "-philia" and immediately deciding that it's the DeGeNeRaCy which needs to be dealt with. You can be a freak and be a good person, and live responsibly. On the other hand, I wish AGPs stopped going into full denial whenever this gets brought up and worked through themselves with open eyes. Kind of a vicious cycle situation here.

Shhh

 

[Anti-Social Social Club]

I met up I dropped by my university campus for a quick errand and met up with some friends who are not done with university some. One girl (i'm not super close with honestly) gripped my hand and kept going on and on about how "omg can you believe it we're the only girls left in the friend group!!!" she excluded some friends that have moved abroad but whatever. In the very few conversations I've had with her it's all she brings up, "BTW YOUR SCHOOL FRIEND IS A HE/HIM AND HAS A NEW NAME!" shut the fuck up.

Spoiler: Obvious jealousy and guilt

My (trasnmasc?) friend's gf was sitting behind and honestly maybe I'm being a bit irrational but I never want to see her at all I fully blame her influencing my friend. I'm glad she helped her get over a very traumatic breakup + getting outed but I'm fully convinced she nudged her towards changing her name and using masculine pronouns. I still don't want to confirm all of this with her since basically everyone keeps telling me "YOUR FRIEND IS USES HE/HIM AND HAS A MALE NAME!!!!". Another irrational thought I can't get rid of is maybe I have a crush on her which explains why I've been so annoyed towards her ex (who is a close-ish friend to me) and her current gf, I keep telling myself that I should have dated her when everyone was joking about us being girlfriends. I've been going through the following list of on her old and current accounts and there are so many he/him lesbians maybe it was bound to happen even if she's not terminally online.

My bf is a huge potterhead and an enbie so I feel like walking on eggshells when he brings up hogwarts legacy ironically he plans on buying the game but is worried about a certain woke friend will react to it because she guilt trips him for pirating the game. Onetime when he was streaming the game he kept commenting about how his character (a male wizard that looks extremely male) looked like a "sassy trans lady" while holding his wand about his head and walking.. I just wanted to share it because it's been annoying me for a bit.

For all of us here who have stories about people we knew that bought tickets to the troon train, is there really any sign that this genderspecial trend has a hope of dying down? It was only slightly mentioned when I was in high school and now it has quickly mushroomed into a cancer. When something like this has become this ubiquitous, is it going to reach a point where it will be endemic from here on out?

I

Spoiler: Doomposting

hope this isn't late but I have completely lost hope that it will ever go away with the American Republicans dragging it into mainstream politics and making it more divisive and if it's not stopping in the US it's not stopping anywhere else, youth culture is basically almost dictated by America's own. Good luck trying to convince the relevant people that this shit is harmful and not just Republicans being inconsistent and hypocritical.

TERFS and Co. can't make their rhetoric palatable to the youth and more importantly gen z. TERF online spaces are snoozefests with essays for memes and they're have no presence on social media a which I know isn't really their fault. You can't recommend terf and gc spaces to normies because so much of it is laughing at how people look like which none of them care about, they fail to convince people why transgenderism is wrong. So many wrongfully believe that terfs are homophobic and not man hating lesbians.

Anyway as long as it remains the "cool, transgressive, and counterculture" culture online it's here to stay so get comfortable.

 

[frap]

I met up I dropped by my university campus for a quick errand and met up with some friends who are not done with university some. One girl (i'm not super close with honestly) gripped my hand and kept going on and on about how "omg can you believe it we're the only girls left in the friend group!!!" she excluded some friends that have moved abroad but whatever. In the very few conversations I've had with her it's all she brings up, "BTW YOUR SCHOOL FRIEND IS A HE/HIM AND HAS A NEW NAME!" shut the fuck up.

Spoiler: Obvious jealousy and guilt

My (trasnmasc?) friend's gf was sitting behind and honestly maybe I'm being a bit irrational but I never want to see her at all I fully blame her influencing my friend. I'm glad she helped her get over a very traumatic breakup + getting outed but I'm fully convinced she nudged her towards changing her name and using masculine pronouns. I still don't want to confirm all of this with her since basically everyone keeps telling me "YOUR FRIEND IS USES HE/HIM AND HAS A MALE NAME!!!!". Another irrational thought I can't get rid of is maybe I have a crush on her which explains why I've been so annoyed towards her ex (who is a close-ish friend to me) and her current gf, I keep telling myself that I should have dated her when everyone was joking about us being girlfriends. I've been going through the following list of on her old and current accounts and there are so many he/him lesbians maybe it was bound to happen even if she's not terminally online.

My bf is a huge potterhead and an enbie so I feel like walking on eggshells when he brings up hogwarts legacy ironically he plans on buying the game but is worried about a certain woke friend will react to it because she guilt trips him for pirating the game. Onetime when he was streaming the game he kept commenting about how his character (a male wizard that looks extremely male) looked like a "sassy trans lady" while holding his wand about his head and walking.. I just wanted to share it because it's been annoying me for a bit.


I

Spoiler: Doomposting

hope this isn't late but I have completely lost hope that it will ever go away with the American Republicans dragging it into mainstream politics and making it more divisive and if it's not stopping in the US it's not stopping anywhere else, youth culture is basically almost dictated by America's own. Good luck trying to convince the relevant people that this shit is harmful and not just Republicans being inconsistent and hypocritical.

TERFS and Co. can't make their rhetoric palatable to the youth and more importantly gen z. TERF online spaces are snoozefests with essays for memes and they're have no presence on social media a which I know isn't really their fault. You can't recommend terf and gc spaces to normies because so much of it is laughing at how people look like which none of them care about, they fail to convince people why transgenderism is wrong. So many wrongfully believe that terfs are homophobic and not man hating lesbians.

Anyway as long as it remains the "cool, transgressive, and counterculture" culture online it's here to stay so get comfortable.

You need new friends. Dump your boyfriend. Any relationship where you have to walk on eggshells isn't worth having.

The left in general can't meme. This applies more to TRAs than anyone else. TERF and GC spaces don't appeal to kids because they're not for kids.

Nothing is cool forever. Everything becomes cringe over time.

 

[Tard Whisperer]

"Was there anyone when you were identifying as a man who didn't call you by Jake or your preferred pronouns?"
My parents were the only ones who did not. I was angry with them at the time, but when I look back, I was not angry with them because I felt like they didn't love me. That's always what people say, that's what I said, "you all are being so hateful, you don't really love me."
But I knew they loved me. Even as angry as I was at my mother, I still knew that she loved me, as imperfect as she was. [...] I was angry because I didn't want to hear the truth. I was trying to suppress the truth.
-Laura Perry Smalts, who spent 9 years as a FTM, on this podcast

Just posting as words of encouragement for those with family members struggling with this.

 

[quackrock]

I have completely lost hope that it will ever go away with the American Republicans dragging it into mainstream politics and making it more divisive

 

[Fapcop]

Rather brave to admit that “your” political team is so retarded, that you know they’d support something objectively harmful because the other team is opposed to it.

If that was me, it would also be cause for some self reflection. Namely: “Why am I supporting people this dysfunctional?”

Now Yanks just need a 140 IQ Republican to start pushing socialized healthcare for all, to get rid of that retarded idea completely.

 

[Criticallacitirc]

A few years ago a co-worker had very eagerly showed me that her son 9 or 10 year old son was really into drag race. I just remember the look on her face she was so excited to show me ( a gay man) In my head, I was just like "what you want a prize or ass pats cause your kid is probably gay? I dont care " Just found out he trooned out. He must be like 12 or 13 now. Makes me sad that so many gay boys are being trooned out by their munchie moms.

 

[Vingle]

He must be like 12 or 13 now. Makes me sad that so many gay boys are being trooned out by their munchie moms.

I wouldn't say a kid liking rupauls drag race is even gay. I know of a straight guy that really likes going to drag shows.

 

[Criticallacitirc]

I wouldn't say a kid liking rupauls drag race is even gay. I know of a straight guy that really likes going to drag shows.

If you'd seen the pics, definitely pre gay.

 

[Golden Bat]

Isn't BPD extremely rare in males?
I thought it was pretty much something that affected women mostly.
My ex was BPD, they can be great when they're in a good mood but it's just too much to deal with the histrionics and freakouts. It must be fucking horrible to be a sufferer but they're not easy to live with or be around.

Late response but this is more of a situation where the way BPD presents differently in males / has a somewhat gendered stigma results in more women being diagnosed than men. I am close to someone who has been diagnosed with it and he had been misdiagnosed several times prior due to this stigma. I would wager it's actually more common in males than you would think, at the very least it is very much not "extremely rare" so much as it is misunderstood. 30-80% of people with BPD also fit the qualifications for seperate trauma-based disorders, so you can imagine how confusing it gets.

 

[Fapcop]

A few years ago a co-worker had very eagerly showed me that her son 9 or 10 year old son was really into drag race. I just remember the look on her face she was so excited to show me ( a gay man) In my head, I was just like "what you want a prize or ass pats cause your kid is probably gay? I dont care " Just found out he trooned out. He must be like 12 or 13 now. Makes me sad that so many gay boys are being trooned out by their munchie moms.

While your outrage is appreciated and shared fellow kiwi, I hope you followed it up with a report to CPA.

Because otherwise it’s kinda useless.

Yeah, I know CPA has mostly been captured by troons and handmaidens. But you never know.