General GunTuber thread

[RSU 1741]

Also I'm really curious as to how the FG42 was actually trialed during jumps, I have a suspicion the Fallschirmjäger would still have left them in the weapons canisters.

Interestingly enough I can't find references to actual jump tests. The FG were extensively tested in 43 (months of testing for improvements) and they essentially destroyed several guns in the process. All I read is that the FG42 is apparently resistant to shocks and drops and they failed to damage the sights or bend the barrel easily, but Death From Above is like 40 years old and maybe we got newer books on the subject.

Sometimes I wonder if Headstamp Publishing should have gone for far less memetic content (Tobacco of the Emperor? Really?) and instead working on some good, updated and complete books that need a reprint. I've read Rough Forged (a updated version of the Collector Grade on the G41-43) and the difference in quality compared to even the professionally-written Thorneycroft to SA80 is kinda noticeable.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Didn't Death From Above repeat that old myth about how the earlier FG42s with the swept back pistolgrips were meant to be fired downwards while parachuting?

 

[Cold Root Beer]

Didn't Death From Above repeat that old myth about how the earlier FG42s with the swept back pistolgrips were meant to be fired downwards while parachuting?

Didn't the Fallschirmjager have the odd doctrine in which the men jumped separate from their primary weapons? And they had to make due with their pistols and bayonets upon landing until they could find the parachute crate with their primary arms (assuming they actually were able to find it, which wasn't a guarantee)?

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

Didn't the Fallschirmjager have the odd doctrine in which the men jumped separate from their primary weapons? And they had to make due with their pistols and bayonets upon landing until they could find the parachute crate with their primary arms (assuming they actually were able to find it, which wasn't a guarantee)?

Yep and they used single-point harnesses which they had little control and spun around which makes the idea of them shooting FG-42s in the air metal as fuck. Just imagine hundreds of Nazi paratroopers spinning around spraying everything below them with 8mm.

 

[Mikoyan]

Interestingly enough I can't find references to actual jump tests. The FG were extensively tested in 43 (months of testing for improvements) and they essentially destroyed several guns in the process. All I read is that the FG42 is apparently resistant to shocks and drops and they failed to damage the sights or bend the barrel easily, but Death From Above is like 40 years old and maybe we got newer books on the subject.

Sometimes I wonder if Headstamp Publishing should have gone for far less memetic content (Tobacco of the Emperor? Really?) and instead working on some good, updated and complete books that need a reprint. I've read Rough Forged (a updated version of the Collector Grade on the G41-43) and the difference in quality compared to even the professionally-written Thorneycroft to SA80 is kinda noticeable.

I think Ian and his money man identified the issue with being a gun book press accurately - that it's never been anything but a tiny niche. Collector Grade has been the only people to make money at it in a sustained way. Even Schiffer doesn't really touch guntism books and does more vehicles and SS memoirs.

Where I'm not 100% sure they get it right is they figure that ultra-premium picture books were the way to go. I think they have a decent shot, but they need to stick to guns and not cig wrappers.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Sometimes I wonder if Headstamp Publishing should have gone for far less memetic content (Tobacco of the Emperor? Really?) and instead working on some good, updated and complete books that need a reprint. I've read Rough Forged (a updated version of the Collector Grade on the G41-43) and the difference in quality compared to even the professionally-written Thorneycroft to SA80 is kinda noticeable.

I'm sure they'd love to republish and/or update old books, but Ian has mentioned in at least one Q&A that publishing rights are a snarl and a half. Between publishing houses that don't exist anymore (or aren't interested in selling/licensing the rights), and long-dead authors who left no provision for their work to be continued, bringing back and or updating old books is a lot of trouble. It's telling that the projects Headstamp has done so far could all be considered passion projects from their authors first, and "useful" books second. They started out with a lot of material already researched.

Mind you, partnering with Larry Vickers to also publish the Vickers Guides was a good first step. It gives them broader appeal and helps them pad out the catalogue, and hopefully gives them some institutional know-how on how to do less... intensely niche books.

 

[RSU 1741]

Didn't Death From Above repeat that old myth about how the earlier FG42s with the swept back pistolgrips were meant to be fired downwards while parachuting?

Can't find a single mention of it in my copy. But after all, Death is one of the weakest CG, I don't know if the reason is lacking sources or simply bad writing. The content is mostly a shitton of German translations and the incredibly small section dedicated to battlefield use has clear mistakes in it. Maybe they didn't care.

I think Ian and his money man identified the issue with being a gun book press accurately - that it's never been anything but a tiny niche.

I'm sure they'd love to republish and/or update old books, but Ian has mentioned in at least one Q&A that publishing rights are a snarl and a half.

Good gun books are difficult products, because to be excellent they need to be good history books both on development and battlefield use, good technical books and provide extensive information about markings/accessories. They aren't as niche as pure Academia books (that are by design overpriced for skinning the public). I just wonder why Ian, that has a very unique position thanks to his Youtube following, threw out works that aren't very useful nor particularly good and for sure he knows better than me what makes good gun literature.

His following will even buy complete gibberish (again, Tobacco?). Why not a repring and an update of the work of his own father on Japanese rifles? Make it cheap, sell if in pdf, update it accordingly, and you throw out a resource that will be useful for the public instead of complete meme works that no one would have ever published and that will sell just on brand recognition. Pistols of the Warlords may be a fun project, but as a gun book is completely useless.

And if there's someone that can take the risk of getting the money and the bother for translating excellent works, I dunnow, from German or Russian, that's for sure someone with a comparatively huge following with disposable income. Beats having to import books from goddamn Moscow

 

[WelperHelper99]

His following will even buy complete gibberish (again, Tobacco?). Why not a repring and an update of the work of his own father on Japanese rifles? Make it cheap, sell if in pdf, update it accordingly, and you throw out a resource that will be useful for the public instead of complete meme works that no one would have ever published and that will sell just on brand recognition. Pistols of the Warlords may be a fun project, but as a gun book is completely useless.

I like that Ian is expanding the catalog honestly. History is History, it all deserves to be perserved. And for every book on tobacco, we get one on the Collier revolver. The tobacco book was a stretch goal book after all, it's like the bonus features on a DVD. And I liked the guy's enthusiasm on his book; people hit the stretch goal so clearly it's wanted.

 

[Mikoyan]

Mind you, partnering with Larry Vickers to also publish the Vickers Guides was a good first step. It gives them broader appeal and helps them pad out the catalogue, and hopefully gives them some institutional know-how on how to do less... intensely niche books.

It was a great first step. I'm prety sure it gave us our recent flood of content.

 

[AGPinochet]

Scootenshootem and Tuck Sheisty linked up
This is going to cause at least 17 reddit trannies to join the 41%

 

[Glock 19 Gen 5]

Scootenshootem and Tuck Sheisty linked up
This is going to cause at least 17 reddit trannies to join the 41%

Here's the link to the episode https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Itno8u6iEo9/
E: he is still making the claim he trained/trains tier one mil guys. Didn't that get disproven over a year+ ago via Navyman and others? His tactics being poor and competitive shooting record being not great to boot.

 

[Trig.Point]

I have a theory that if there is ever some sort of 'event' that after a few years, only black powder will be able to be reliably manufactured. In that situation with some sort of access to machine tooling, it would be Wheelock's that would be produced, not caplocks or flintlocks. Anyway I watched an old InRangeTv video with Ian today and I wanted to share it.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

I have a theory that if there is ever some sort of 'event' that after a few years, only black powder will be able to be reliably manufactured. In that situation with some sort of access to machine tooling, it would be Wheelock's that would be produced, not caplocks or flintlocks. Anyway I watched an old InRangeTv video with Ian today and I wanted to share it.

I think we'd be back to matchlocks

 

[JJLiautaud]

I think we'd be back to matchlocks

No lol, mercury fulminate is piss easy to make so we'd be back to probably paper cartridges, single shot rifles and revolvers.

 

[AGPinochet]

Didn't that get disproven over a year+ ago via Navyman and others?

It was disproven so much that Navyman had to delete his video on the subject and issue a public apology. For whatever that's worth.

 

[Appalachian_Spook]

Here's the link to the episode https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Itno8u6iEo9/
E: he is still making the claim he trained/trains tier one mil guys. Didn't that get disproven over a year+ ago via Navyman and others? His tactics being poor and competitive shooting record being not great to boot.

No, navyman more or less got shown as a fraud by others by splicing shit together out of context and then having fudd tier training videos on his own channel.

Furthermore Lucas just does gun training/manipulation on how to shoot faster/accurately. He never said he trains tactics. If one wants to get in an autistic fit about how that's tactics then go for it, but I wouldn't consider gun handling and manipulating the same as CQB or whatever. He usually points to people who have those qualifications...

Also side tangent: competitive shooting records mean fuck all because Tony Cowden cheated to get GM and then loses to C class shooters when he shoots comps not on his own range and with refs he's friends with. A few Delta guys have called out his shit training as well.

 

[White Devil]

No, navyman more or less got shown as a fraud by others by splicing shit together out of context and then having fudd tier training videos on his own channel.

Furthermore Lucas just does gun training/manipulation on how to shoot faster/accurately. He never said he trains tactics. If one wants to get in an autistic fit about how that's tactics then go for it, but I wouldn't consider gun handling and manipulating the same as CQB or whatever. He usually points to people who have those qualifications...

Also side tangent: competitive shooting records mean fuck all because Tony Cowden cheated to get GM and then loses to C class shooters when he shoots comps not on his own range and with refs he's friends with. A few Delta guys have called out his shit training as well.

Didn't that skinny faggot claim he has a kill house facility that caters to local swat and whatnot? That's pretty heavily implying you teach tactics.

 

[Appalachian_Spook]

Didn't that skinny faggot claim he has a kill house facility that caters to local swat and whatnot? That's pretty heavily implying you teach tactics.

Not that I'm aware, but it's possible. But I disagree that having a shoot house means you teach tactics.

It's possible they made one on the range for personal use and to rent it out. If local SWAT wants to use a shoot house you have one to rent. I know they've hosted the folks from Baer Solutions a few times to teach courses at their range - for the lazy Baer is run by former SMU guys - so assuming they do have a shoot house, it's possible it's for when they have other guys using their range for training/classes they host there.

This is all conjecture of course, but I've never read or heard him say he teaches tactics or that he has a shoot house and teaches CQB in it.

 

[Devious Dave]

Maybe this isn't guntuber related but there's this guy Southernprepper1 I use to watch him when I was 14 and he made some cool videos about making road spikes and stuff like that I checked his channel again recently and he kinda looks like he might be schizophrenic now pandemic panic has not been good on him

Speaking from the heart....Our country is doomed but there is a way to have peace in the turmoil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzokV06Uw28&t=13sTo see what we worked on today to get me off the power grid in a emergency.

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[HumptiDouji]

I have a theory that if there is ever some sort of 'event' that after a few years, only black powder will be able to be reliably manufactured. In that situation with some sort of access to machine tooling, it would be Wheelock's that would be produced, not caplocks or flintlocks.

I feel like in such a circumstance, a flintlock or similar might be easier to make. Optionally some very different kind of wheellock, perhaps scavenging parts from BIC lighters and stuff.

No lol, mercury fulminate is piss easy to make so we'd be back to probably paper cartridges, single shot rifles and revolvers.

That too. However, it really wouldn't be tough to make a more rigid cartridge, something like a shotgun shell, the brass or annealed steel case head would be practically infinitely reusable. Hell, make a full brass or steel case, if we were to retain any decent machine tooling this isn't too tough of a problem to fix, just make goddamn sure you retain/recover your spent cases.

I'm picturing a lever-action rifle, something similar to the Winchester 1895 so it can be loaded with clips and not be married to barrel length for capacity, a box magazine for 8-10 rounds would be easily doable if we go rimless, and a brass catching bag would be a worthwhile accessory.
Cartridge in question would be blackpowder in this hypothesis, obviously, somewhere between 50 and 80 grains for a load, and with caliber of .40 to .45, the projectile is a heavy ~325gr semi-wadcutter (because that would be cool), which has lubrication grooves filled with a suitable mixture of fat and wax. Maybe or maybe not paper patched.
So, somewhere between reinventing the old .45-70 Government, but rimless so that we can double stack it and put it in an en-bloc clip, or maybe the blackpowder equivalent of an intermediate rifle cartridge, to better facilitate rapid fire when needed.

Bayonets are mandatory.