Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

treat their women so horribly
boo fucking whoo not a single drop of blood my or my brothers blood for the rights of women and homosexuals if they want to be equal to actual men let them fight for those equal rights themselves. Those goat fuckers understood the laws of nature which seem to still elude most of the current year occupants of the west which is why they won.
Thank the good Lord the threads are split otherwise we'd have pages upon pages about how a operating an Abrams is like driving an SUV and can be learned in one day from people who have done neither.
Please don't remind of the PTSD flashbacks those fucking retards gave me triggering my tisms acting like combat is a simply an extension of the player experience and just like their basement console games. The tank guy was definitely the biggest retard though. It is fucking amazing how easy these people think not just operating complex equipment is but learning to do it reliably under duress in an actual conflict zone is.
Why do you think that every KGB agent was James Bond? Most were just paper pushers and translators.
Putin was a HUMINT officer so think less James Bond more Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy George Smiley. James Bond is a fucking circus clown; very entertaining, especially for children, but hardly someone discreet enough to every be considered an actual spy. Fleming got mobbed out of the SIS after the war and the Bond novels were his way of self inserting his active fantasy life into his own fiction to continue a life that was over for him.
new technology seems to need touched up every few hours to stop it from going completely out of sync
How the hell else do you expect weapon manufacturers to sell parts and consultant/technician services? Do you expect the primary shareholders of that company to have to slum it in 250ft instead of 300ft+ yachts?
I can only imagine how hard muslim foreign ministers/ambassadors have to keep a straight face when being lectured about fag rights by their US counterparts.
Not as hard as when they have to look a female world leader in the face and wonder what she is even doing there in the first place.
Are people who are not professional mercs still going over there? What the fuck is wrong with these idiots?
Salary for a skilled team leader or combat trainer is around 50-100K a month right now while western toy operator aides behind lines are being paid from 20-50K a month and the ones in rear with logistics/everything else in Kiev are making around 10-20K a month to sit in an office. For riskier stuff a lot contracts are usually 3 months but sometimes it is a month by month thing. Also some people get addicted to the thrill of it all and don't integrate well back into normie world where everything is such bullshit.
West can't produce fuck all
We produce feminism and faggotry in abundance; enough to shove down the whole world's throat ten times over as a means of helping our Judeo-Anglo economic system go down. Despite not even being able to logistically fight a world war they keep edging closer to it because this war is a holy war to keep spreading western ideological AIDS. It makes no strategic sense until you realize the people calling for it are dogmatic members of the faith of feelings.

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Normie faggots in Germany believe Blinken's statement that border debates are on the table is a sign of the upcoming big Ukie offensive. I feel a bit sorry for any young lad suffering in this but fuck me these delusional people need a reality check and complete defeat of their bullshit belief system.
normie germans are even more retarded than average since they can't even read the source and have to constantly regurgitate MSM bullshit.

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John Kirby remains butthurt about the drone and cannot comprehend why Putin would give an award to somebody who put the US property at risk.
“I don’t know of another military in the world, another Air Force in the world, that would award a pilot for smashing into a drone. If that’s bravery, then I guess they’ve got a different definition of it. Its ludicrous, its insulting,” Kirby said on Wednesday.

“In the Navy I grew up in, you don’t want to hit anything. Hitting anything’s bad for you. I’m sorry, I’ve got to throw the flag on this one. I have no clue why they would give a bravery award to a pilot who was at worst, maliciously putting himself and U.S. property at great risk, and at best, just an idiot,” Kirby, an admiral in the Navy, added.
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RIP to the French mercenary. Maybe he just got tricked into supporting the Nazis because he believed the Fake News. May God have mercy on his soul.
The death of Kane Te Tai, 38, was confirmed by New Zealand’s foreign ministry Thursday 3/23/23, citing Ukrainian government sources.
Te Tai, who fought with the International Legion, is the third New Zealander known to have died in Ukraine.
Andrew gallozi Dead at 22 years old. 3rd French mercenary killed near Luhansk 2/18/23
Have you seen the retards in the other thread ?
Did I mention its not your nation?

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We produce feminism and faggotry in abundance; enough to shove down the whole world's throat ten times over as a means of helping our Judeo-Anglo economic system go down. Despite not even being able to logistically fight a world war they keep edging closer to it because this war is a holy war to keep spreading western ideological AIDS. It makes no strategic sense until you realize the people calling for it are dogmatic members of the faith of feelings.

I think the rest of the world is looking at what's happening in the west with a mixture of awe struck fear and disgust. Black Africa, for example, ignored all of the Covid bullshit. It says something that black Africans at this point in history have more basic common sense that white Europeans, a lot fucking more.

The US has lost Saudi Arabia, which in normal times would be an Earth shattering geo political catastrophe for the west, but we're so far gone we barely take notice. Iran and Russia combined now control Iraq and most of Syria, The whole point of the neocon project was to use American hegemonic dominance to impose a new security order on the middle east and to protect and ultimately expand the state of Israel because Jews. Instead all their gay ops has only served to bleed the US dry and Israel will now have to deal with potentially hostile states on all sides with no American security guarantees. It's starting to dawn on Israeli politicians that their dreams of regime change in Tehran are now dead and it's probably time to start making nice.

Russia is also moving into parts of French speaking Africa. China we of course know has been cutting deals and handing out loans and investments all over the third world. What do we have to compete with this? Empty threats and demands to celebrate female dress up and faggotry or else. The US will impose sanctions on Uganda for outlawing arse sex? Another country pushed wholesale into the Sino-Russian orbit. It's genuinely hilarious how quickly the Biden regime has pissed away whatever was left of American prestige and perception of strength and competence. They'll hold onto Europe for a while longer but eventually the Turks, Hungarians and other peripheral players will start peeling off. Then the Germans and French. Soon the burger empire will be the Anglosphere, a weird backwater with bizarre religious beliefs run by Jews and 2nd generation Pajeet immigrants.
 
All possible perspectives on the recent allegations.

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Baptising of Rus into orthodox Christianity. To add extra layer of funny, Duke's name was Vladimir and not Vololodimir
Are they trying to appropriate Moscowian "WE WUZ BYZANTIUM" LARP? Put a double-headed eagle on your banners and call Zelenskiy Caesar (Czar), that'll show moskals who is who.
 
Coping in the other thread about how the US can reliably make RPG-7's and how they're being shipped in massive quantities to Ukraine.

I couldn't find any information about production numbers for the US-made PSRL launcher or the SR-H1 warhead it uses, but I really doubt a business whose whole production facility is a single warehouse in Texas is making thousands of rounds of RPG ammunition a day. They sent 500 launchers to Ukraine back in 2018 and I wouldn't be surprised if that was a significant portion of their production from 2011 up until that time.

But yeah the US is going to be making 5.45 ammo and Russian MLRS systems and artillery pieces for the Ukes any time now.
 
Coping in the other thread about how the US can reliably make RPG-7's and how they're being shipped in massive quantities to Ukraine.

I couldn't find any information about production numbers for the US-made PSRL launcher or the SR-H1 warhead it uses, but I really doubt a business whose whole production facility is a single warehouse in Texas is making thousands of rounds of RPG ammunition a day. They sent 500 launchers to Ukraine back in 2018 and I wouldn't be surprised if that was a significant portion of their production from 2011 up until that time.

But yeah the US is going to be making 5.45 ammo and Russian MLRS systems and artillery pieces for the Ukes any time now.
Isn't the RPG-7 ancient by now? It was fielded during the Vietnam War, if I recall correctly, possibly even earlier.
Why would anyone in the the US want to manufacture such a derelict weapon?
 
Isn't the RPG-7 ancient by now? It was fielded during the Vietnam War, if I recall correctly, possibly even earlier.
Why would anyone in the the US want to manufacture such a derelict weapon?
I mean, it's as old as the M16. Modernization with newer, better warheads has continued to happen and it's not useless as a light antitank weapon. There are modern tandem HEAT warheads for the RPG7 that may be usable against certain types of MBT using ERA or similar armor in the field, I can't say for sure.

It's not a guided or fire and forget launcher but it also doesn't cost a 100k per launcher and 50k per shot either.

And let's not forget that the cream of the crop of the US military has been BTFO multiple times by 80 IQ monkeys with RPG7s.
 
“Hey sorry your kid died in the war we stoked, here’s 25% your next bottle of shampoo.”
They have run out of fresh paper for the printers so they have to use old flyers...


Normie faggots in Germany believe Blinken's statement that border debates are on the table is a sign of the upcoming big Ukie offensive. I feel a bit sorry for any young lad suffering in this but fuck me these delusional people need a reality check and complete defeat of their bullshit belief system.
Well there are other borders you can question, Poland is currently losing alot of soldiers in ukraine, i mean volunteers.

Baptising of Rus into orthodox Christianity. To add extra layer of funny, Duke's name was Vladimir and not Vololodimir
Wrong... the Dukes name was Valdamarr and he was a Norse Viking from a viking family that got bored fighting Turks and Bulgars for the roman empire.

PMCs with the very non slavic name of Wagner retaking the area is like poetry...
 
Russia is also moving into parts of French speaking Africa. China we of course know has been cutting deals and handing out loans and investments all over the third world. What do we have to compete with this?

The thing is the US projects power in its spheres of influence with its military. This is a very archaic way of thinking. It's basically the old imperialist way, and corporations are separate from that.

Power projection in the modern age is defined by economic terms. The problem with the capitalist system is that we don't control corporate investments and don't restrict them because our government is subservient to their interests. And our government doesn't want to compete with that.

So American power projection is limited to aggressive action. Either covertly through the CIA or the US Military.

China's advantage is that it is a system of state capitalism, where all businesses are subservient to the state, and not the other way around. This allows China to project economically, because even 'private investment' in other countries is controlled by state interests. China has no need to project militarily.

And countries have seen what happens to being subservient to American capital is. China weilds its economy like a military force and can peacefully influence countries without using its military, making it much more palatable. China also plays the long game, knowing that investing in nations will eventually push politics and ideologies towards them without the destabilization of collapsing governments.

America has enjoyed a position of power for a very long time and is still rooted in Imperialist military thinking. This is why all of our modern foreign policy adventures have been concurrent disasters. We view ourselves as the sole hegemon and use brute force to do it. This method is outdated and is allowing for cracks in the American empire to show.

Coping in the other thread about how the US can reliably make RPG-7's and how they're being shipped in massive quantities to Ukraine.

I couldn't find any information about production numbers for the US-made PSRL launcher or the SR-H1 warhead it uses, but I really doubt a business whose whole production facility is a single warehouse in Texas is making thousands of rounds of RPG ammunition a day. They sent 500 launchers to Ukraine back in 2018 and I wouldn't be surprised if that was a significant portion of their production from 2011 up until that time.

But yeah the US is going to be making 5.45 ammo and Russian MLRS systems and artillery pieces for the Ukes any time now.

This is actual delusion since Lockheed and other defense contractors have reported to Congreas massive supply chain issues. This is from ball bearings to and I quote the CEO "the bane of his existence", rocket motors. The US is having trouble meeting demand for its own arms stocks, forget Ukraine.

I've noticed a lot of these people are stuck in the WWII era of thinking where we have a manufacturing base and generally tried nation building.

All of this is simply untrue. Supply chains are global, and factories in the US are generally limited to one or two and that's it. Also with the way pork goes in Congress, parts for weapon A are made in ten different states and all have to be shipped to one plant overseas or one in the states.

Ramping up production is not simply pressing a button or building another factory like this is an RTS. This takes years and billions of dollars, along with the red tape that comes from building arms factories.
 
Isn't the RPG-7 ancient by now? It was fielded during the Vietnam War, if I recall correctly, possibly even earlier.
Why would anyone in the the US want to manufacture such a derelict weapon?
It doesn't matter how old it is as long as it works. If the US is suddenly remembering that you fight a knock down drag out war by flooding the zone with good-enough materiel, that's a distinct improvement for the burgers
 
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From the actual brainlet who brought you "the US is probably going to be spinning up production of 5.45 ammo at Lake City" comes a new cope "the US military is exclusively standardized on one gun and we don't have several versions of the M14, M16 and M4 in service concurrently, along with half a dozen SMGs"
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I'm beginning to think these people live in some sort of fantasy universe that has a very very slight resemblance to real life.
@MG-34 holy shit you are fucking stupid on god no cap :story:
 
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From the actual brainlet who brought you "the US is probably going to be spinning up production of 5.45 ammo at Lake City" comes a new cope "the US military is exclusively standardized on one gun and we don't have several versions of the M14, M16 and M4 in service concurrently, along with half a dozen SMGs"
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I'm beginning to think these people live in some sort of fantasy universe that has a very very slight resemblance to real life.
@MG-34 holy shit you are fucking stupid on god no cap :story:
Holy shit, these people ARE stupid and have no idea how many different small arms the US military operates.
 
The problem with making Soviet munitions for the Ukraine in the USA is not just setting up factories, logistic chains, training workers etc.

It is also making something that will be only useful for a handful of years. If lets say Wakanda wants to buy russian ammo for its T34-s, will they buy the cheaper Commie rounds, or the more expensive American Freedom Bullets of Ukraiyne?

Not only would you be setting up new factories, but also ones with a very short lifespan. Biden maybe demwnted enough to do it, but even when done, these factories would be an economic drain or shut down as soon as the hohols fold.

Someone more familiar may be able explain how modern ammo is made, but I take it involves special machinery and not something that can be toggled on to make different caliber rounds on a whim.
 
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