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[Rome's rightful successor]

Why do the people who make/star in these movies want them to fail?
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Because Hollywood Accounting?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Why do the people who make/star in these movies want them to fail?
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Oh yeah, just shit on all of those animators' hard work making the first feature-length animated film ever made, without which you wouldn't even be doing this in the first place, why don'tcha. Here's a "refreshing" take from me, Rachel:

 

[SNEED.EXE]

The poster for the new Snow White movie was just leaked:

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

The poster for the new Snow White movie was just leaked:
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It even has the minority representation we all crave!

Saddest part is, this actually looks BETTER than the actual remake.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

The poster for the new Snow White movie was just leaked:
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I would rather watch this as a full lenght movie instead of another one of the Rat's ungodly woke garbage abominations. These woke Disney movies aren't just bad, they are hideous & repulsive. They make your skin crawl and they make you wish Disney would go bankrupt & disappear forever & all the groomers would get the bullet. That's how disgusting this company has become.

 

[Seafarer]

Out of interest I looked to see if they are going to piss on Hercules' grave too with a live-action remake. Of course they are, and it will be a "modern" musical and will be "inspired by TikTok". My early guess is that Hercules is shown to fuck men, they raceswap Meg, and the muses will include a tranny.

Well it’s a guarantee that there will be at least one homo in the remake, since Hollywood loves the “Greeks were gay” myth.

>When Disney makes a black Snow White
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>When Warner Bros. makes a black Snow White
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I'd prefer the Warner Bros. one, honestly.

If we have the live-action Snow White on movie night we better have that cartoon as the pre-show.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

Lucas and Marvel are a last resort given how little they are bringing in now. Biggest guess would be Fox's material as outside the Simpsons and I guess Home Alone, Disney has done nothing with it. They just bought it for Star Wars and Marvel, so terrible investments galore.

They made a Home Alone movie that was connected directly to the first 2 movies.

They made Simpsons crap that used disney properties.

Marvel, Pixar and LucasArts all have billions of dollars of investment in physical construction. Like each of those properties go over a billion of investment in their parks. They cant be sold now at full value because they cant sell the theme park rights along with them and it would be fucktarded to sell the rights and then have to pay licensing for the properties you just sold.

They do have sellable ips. Simpsons might be sellable to Comcast. That would be an expensive way to resolve the upcoming Simpsons land issue. But Simpsons aint worth what it once was.

 

[vern]

I think Disney is too big for anybody to buy at the moment
Like a month or so back they sold the Queen library for a quick billion. And that was just one scrap from the pile of random shit they've picked up over the years.
Def expecting some more individual assets moving though

Probably never gonna happen but how much do you think they could sell for the copyright/IP to Mickey himself?
The mouse is probably way to tied to the company to every happen, although it would be funny if years down the line one souless mega corp owns the mouse, another owns the duck, one more owns the dog, etc. etc. all because the company kept trying to change copyright law.

 

[ZMOT]

On the one hand, Thor 1 and the Poriot films are good. But on the other, he did give us Artimus Fowl and the 2015 Disney Cinderella, so I am not sure how this will go, but at least it isn't being worked on by Micheal Bay much like the TMNT.

say what you want, but if michael bay does a movie you know you gonna get a michael bay movie, good or bad.

Marvel, Pixar and LucasArts all have billions of dollars of investment in physical construction. Like each of those properties go over a billion of investment in their parks. They cant be sold now at full value because they cant sell the theme park rights along with them and it would be fucktarded to sell the rights and then have to pay licensing for the properties you just sold.

how big is marvel in the parks tho? can see them going "capeshit had it's run, time to let it go and get some money now while it's still worth something".

but even without the parks I never see disney getting rid of lucasarts, they double- and triple-downed so hard on that, getting rid of it and someone shitting all over their nu-wars crap, declare it non-canon and actually do something entertaining with it (for anyone who still cares) would be a major sting to their pride.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Why do the people who make/star in these movies want them to fail?
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Wrong. It's an over 200 year old fairy tale.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

think a big advantage is that Japan's studios have far greater respect for creators, it helps that Japan's biggest anime franchises have mostly alive and active creators. Akira Toriyama can happily come in and out to lead DragonBall. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure stayed as a manga (besides one OVA for Stardust Crusaders) until the 2010s when a studio produced a faithful anime and the series boomed for a whole new generation especially in the USA. Look at Neon Genesis Evangelion Japan happily allowed Anno to procrastinate in making his theatrical trilogy.

The issue with current American media is infinite money and being an establishment pretty much enshrined by law. There is no competition since everything can be bought/sabotaged and the only way up the ladder is to literally and figuratively suck the cock of whoever is on top.
The only result there is decay, the only people allowed to make new shit are either talentless obsessive fans or talentless asskissers, all sharing the same ideology. In a sane world Disney would have gone bankrupt 5 years ago.

Meanwhile Japan doesn't care what you make as long as it's popular, so we get junk but the occasional gem.

 

[Kulee Baba]

The issue with current American media is infinite money and being an establishment pretty much enshrined by law. There is no competition since everything can be bought/sabotaged and the only way up the ladder is to literally and figuratively suck the cock of whoever is on top.
The only result there is decay, the only people allowed to make new shit are either talentless obsessive fans or talentless asskissers, all sharing the same ideology. In a sane world Disney would have gone bankrupt 5 years ago.

Meanwhile Japan doesn't care what you make as long as it's popular, so we get junk but the occasional gem.

Good post and it reminded me to write about The Brave Little Toaster.

Believe it or not, the people who DID own the rights, Hyperion, did try to make a CGI movie, but that was canned.
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A live-action remake was also in the works from the person who produced the Alvin and the Chipmunks CGI/live-action abominations, but thank FUCK, that was canned as well.

https://archive.is/qwQXy

So Disney's The Brave Little Toaster, that's how Lasseter was fired for the first time.

After animators John Lasseter and Glen Keane had finished a short 2D/3D test film based on the book Where the Wild Things Are, Lasseter and producer Thomas L. Wilhite decided they wanted to produce a whole feature with the same technique.

The story they chose was The Brave Little Toaster, and this became the first CGI film Lasseter ever pitched.[13] But in their enthusiasm, they ran into issues pitching the idea to two high-level Disney executives, animation administrator Ed Hansen, and Disney president Ron W. Miller. Ron Miller asked about the cost after the pitch and when Lasseter replied that it would cost no more than a traditionally animated film, Miller rejected the pitch, saying that the only reason to use computers would be if it was "faster or cheaper".[14][15]

A few minutes after the meeting, Lasseter received a phone call from Hansen and was instructed to come down to his office, where Lasseter was informed that he was dismissed.

Really serves as a example of the harm of studios being controlled by ignorant old guard.

Hollywood was saved because of the "New Hollywood" movement. Filmmakers who had the balls to break the rules set before them. Now Hollywood is more risk adverse than ever. How many spinfoffs of Yellowstone do we need?

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

Probably never gonna happen but how much do you think they could sell for the copyright/IP to Mickey himself?
The mouse is probably way to tied to the company to every happen, although it would be funny if years down the line one souless mega corp owns the mouse, another owns the duck, one more owns the dog, etc. etc. all because the company kept trying to change copyright law.

Steamboat Willie enters public domain on January 1, 2024 which means anyone can use the original version of Mickey which will devalue the brand.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

which will devalue the brand.

>as if what they've been doing hasn't devalued it enough
lol

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

how big is marvel in the parks tho? can see them going "capeshit had it's run, time to let it go and get some money now while it's still worth something".

One of the most recent major new rides at the Florida parks is a GotG rollercoaster, iirc there's a lot more stuff at the Chinese parks
There's some weirdness about what they can and can't use at Disney World (Florida) from Universal having the theme park rights previously for Islands Of Adventure before Marvel movies were hot shit
quick version seems to be "if the IP was already in IOA then they can't put it in the parks at WDW" with some grey areas about "akshully that's not _in_ the park, that's just outside the gate ;^) " and exactly what the IPs mean, like IOA has the comic version of "the Avengers" which could mean basically anyone ever in the Marvel universe considering how many characters were part of them for a minute

 

[namelesstacotruck]

how big is marvel in the parks tho? can see them going "capeshit had it's run, time to let it go and get some money now while it's still worth something".

but even without the parks I never see disney getting rid of lucasarts, they double- and triple-downed so hard on that, getting rid of it and someone shitting all over their nu-wars crap, declare it non-canon and actually do something entertaining with it (for anyone who still cares) would be a major sting to their pride

Marvel is a billion dollars easy into the parks. Galactic Rewind cost them half a billion alone. Then there is Avengers Campus a whole "land" in California Adventure. The Spiderman web shooter ride in California and international park locations. They turned Rock and Roller into an Iron Man ride at an international pqrk
And they turned Tower of Tower into a Guardians themed ride at California Adventure.

Rumour is the Aerosmith contract is coming up and they may turn that coaster into something Marvel themed too.

They would have gone even harder if they had the east coast theme park rights but Universal has those as long as they keep their land open.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Meh, the writer's strike sounds like a bunch of assholes crying over their poor work, this is retarde-

https://archive.is/ZROXB

NEVER MIND, RAH-RAH WRITERS, KEEP STRIKING KEEP STRIKING KEEP STRIKING FOREVER

 

[gata]

Meh, the writer's strike sounds like a bunch of assholes crying over their poor work, this is retarde-
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https://archive.is/ZROXB

NEVER MIND, RAH-RAH WRITERS, KEEP STRIKING KEEP STRIKING KEEP STRIKING FOREVER

wtf I support writers now?

That aside I hope this strike at least kills Hollywood so that indies will thrive. With indies, ESG retardation or woke ideas has less of an impact on them thus giving us actual diverse content. Let me be optimistic

 

[Omen_Sulk]

the young son of Oracle Founder and Billionaire Larry Ellison. What makes this fascinating is that Larry Ellison was close friends with Steve Jobs. Ellison was such a believer in Steve Jobs that Ellison wanted to buy Apple just so that Steve Jobs could be reinstalled as the CEO, I find it fascinating that after parting ways with Disney for a second time Lasseter joined a corporation connected to an old friend of Steve Jobs.

Jobs seems to have a good idea about company management and culture and how things interact at a corporate level.

 

[khaine]

Jobs seems to have a good idea about company management and culture and how things interact at a corporate level.

Disney has the opposite problem though? People have ideas for these products/properties and are willing to execute on them. It's just their ideas are terrible.