Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[A Grey Cat]

Hank Hill saying "WHY IS SHE STILL TALKING?"

This show had so much potential, I found the drag in the Lyle loopty episode funny, now seeing moxie act like a grade A troon and his wife a total pooner?...I don't know whether it's still funny or just sad given Vivzie is working with both now, and has let them plaster tranny imp ocs all over the backgrounds.

 

[Life is Hell...]

She's still going.
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As an aside, archive.today is only saving the tweet itself instead of the replies for context, so I would try to archive every tweet just in case.

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She REALLY doesn't know when to stop, does she? You would think by now she would realize that it doesn't matter what she says, that people will not change their mind of their opinions, but no. She still rants to the public because...honestly, I don't know anymore. Even her fans that support her takes are starting to get annoyed by this. Why can't she just talk about this to her friends over dms or something? Why must she always go out into the public to whine and complain?

Also, even if Moxxie wasn't "out of character", that doesn't make him any less obnoxious to the viewer during that episode. Even if a character is supposed to be annoying, they shouldn't be annoying to the audience. Unless you want people to dislike watching your show.

ALSO, also, weren't you a "theater kid" Viv? I guess...great job in dissing yourself?

It's absolutely mind-blowing to see this chick manage to teeter on complete Lolcow this quickly, that's gotta be a world record right?

 

[InJailOutSoon]

So one of the workers of Lackadaisy liked these supposed "transphobic" tweets and people on the HH/HB Fandom sides of things are getting all upset by this. Other people who work on Lackadaisy (some of them also being trans) came to their defense, but the HH/HB fandom are not satisfied, with one person even comparing it to murder.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

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So one of the workers of Lackadaisy liked these supposed "transphobic" tweets and people on the HH/HB Fandom sides of things are getting all upset by this. Other people who work on Lackadaisy (some of them also being trans) came to their defense, but the HH/HB fandom are not satisfied, with one person even comparing it to murder.

For God's sake, you draw slightly more polished stick figures for a living. Can you please STFU about political shit (even if it's somewhat true)? You just make yourself a big-ass target.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

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So one of the workers of Lackadaisy liked these supposed "transphobic" tweets and people on the HH/HB Fandom sides of things are getting all upset by this. Other people who work on Lackadaisy (some of them also being trans) came to their defense, but the HH/HB fandom are not satisfied, with one person even comparing it to murder.

As per usual, I like how these tweets aren't even remotely transphobic. They're just the mildest, and most reasonable takes ever, and yet these freaks still chimp out.

 

[Niggerphobe]

I rather listen to hell death than viv

 

[Megagi La Skunk]

At this point hell death as seem lolcow potential need his own thread as viv being retarted on the now norted app of Twitter and just having slap fights left and right.

 

[AnOminous]

At this point hell death as seem lolcow potential need his own thread as viv being restarted on the now norted app of Twitter and just having slap fights left and right.

She needs to lol calm down.

 

[Cassandra Clare]

As per usual, I like how these tweets aren't even remotely transphobic. They're just the mildest, and most reasonable takes ever, and yet these freaks still chimp out.

I don't understand what's transphobic about that. Unless the users tweeting it has said something like "kill all transgender people" before these takes are kind of... milquetoast and reasonable? God dammit even trans female athletes themselves refuse to compete with biological women because they understand it's absolutely not fair (a prominent one I remember is Janae Kroczaleski, who I know from Blaire White attempting to smear her name).

I think these children in HH/HB are getting their panties in a twist for an issue they have no stake in.

Here are some interesting articles that really get into the nitty gritty, including that women are LOSING their scholarships because of trans women with male puberty competing against them, honestly tragic:
What is fair competition by Cato.org
Inclusive solution for trans women by Forbes

(Would you guys believe me if I said it was really hard to find these articles and that I was given "Top 10 Trans athletes dominating the competition" instead?)

 

[InJailOutSoon]

The people who have defended Ze said she only liked them to bookmark them. Others call bs (which I have to agree cause there is a button to bookmark posts). The whole situation is stupid and I hope no one on the team issues an apology, cause not only is there nothing to apologize for but that will just show that they'll grovel to the mob to appease them.

At this point hell death as seem lolcow potential need his own thread as viv being retarted on the now norted app of Twitter and just having slap fights left and right.

The reason why I didn't make a thread for him was because I didn't if he would be big or noteworthy to have one. If people are interested in one though, I will take a whack at it. Would be the first thread I make for this site too.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Sorry for double posting but I just had to so I could hear your responses to this. All I can say is, I'm more curious than ever to know what is going on and wonder if this is going to affect something big later on.

 

[Cassandra Clare]

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Sorry for double posting but I just had to so I could hear your responses to this. All I can say is, I'm more curious than ever to know what is going on and wonder if this is going to affect something big later on.

To me, Tracy's response sounded like she was about to say "but... [reason]" instead of just wishing well. I don't think there's anything deep going on here, if anything Lackadaisy probably just didn't want to accept funding from another team.

Has there been other speculations on this interaction on Twitter? I usually hate that place but the gossip and drama is too tantalizing.

 

[KelpieSelkie]

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So one of the workers of Lackadaisy liked these supposed "transphobic" tweets and people on the HH/HB Fandom sides of things are getting all upset by this. Other people who work on Lackadaisy (some of them also being trans) came to their defense, but the HH/HB fandom are not satisfied, with one person even comparing it to murder.

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Sorry for double posting but I just had to so I could hear your responses to this. All I can say is, I'm more curious than ever to know what is going on and wonder if this is going to affect something big later on.

Apparently there is a bit more, though it's also dumb as you'd expect. This is being posted in many Twitter replies to Tracy's reply to Vivz:

I don't know where the original Discord message came from, but allegedly ZeBird accused Vivz of only donating to flaunt her wealth and make her and Spindlehorse look good. If that were the case, wouldn't Vivz have taken one of those $10,000 character slots instead? Vivz claimed the $5,000 was on behalf of Spindlehorse, not just her.

I wouldn't exactly put it past Vivz to want to make herself look generous and all that, but the Lackadaisy crew must really not like her if they chose to reject the pledge money from someone else's team who are successful and don't necessarily need funding themselves anymore. It all just screams petty bullshit infighting to me.

Last but not least, a Youtuber I've never heard of before who primarily makes videos centering around Hazbin and Helluva also made videos about this spat and Erin Frost has reportedly been blocked on Twitter by the Lackadaisy crew and others, including Tracy, Fable, Ashley Nichols, and Iron Circus Comics. He claims other people's accounts have been blocked by the LackadaisyCats Twitter account.

Something about all this seems fishy.

 

[AnOminous]

Something about all this seems fishy.

I wonder if it has anything to do with Michael Kovach being Rocky in Lackadaisy and no longer being Angel Dust, incidentally one of the biggest losses from going to "normal" TV and having to deal with union bullshit.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

To me, Tracy's response sounded like she was about to say "but... [reason]" instead of just wishing well. I don't think there's anything deep going on here, if anything Lackadaisy probably just didn't want to accept funding from another team. Has there been other speculations on this interaction on Twitter? I usually hate that place but the gossip and drama is too tantalizing.

I would agree with you on that if it wasn't for the fact that they accepted the donation in the first place. Why cancel it now? It is a bit suspicious that this happened right after the drama with Ze.

I know Ze doesn't particularly like Viv in general; Ashley and Michael are at best neutral about her as they stated they don't want to talk about Viv or their time working on Hazbin Hotel; and there are other crew members themselves who stated that they don't have problems with Spindlehorse, just with Viv. (Makes me wonder if the donation post was made on the Helluva Boss's Twitter account instead of Viv's, we wouldn't be dealing with this in the first place.)

Either way, the donation was initially accepted. And now it has been rejected. Maybe it's because of the comments Viv made, other Spindlehorse members made, or hell, even the Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel fans made. Or it could be something completely different. Whatever it is, Tracy (the creator/director of Lackadaisy) doesn't want Spindlehorse's money anymore.

I also do wonder if Viv knew that if she posted this email to Twitter, that her fans would get upset with Lackadasiy. I'm not trying to say that she would do soemthing like that intentionally, bit I wouldn't put that pass behind her.

 

[Dave.]

I would agree with you on that if it wasn't for the fact that they accepted the donation in the first place. Why cancel it now? It is a bit suspicious that this happened right after the drama with Ze.

I know Ze doesn't particularly like Viv in general; Ashley and Michael are at best neutral about her as they stated they don't want to talk about Viv or their time working on Hazbin Hotel; and there are other crew members themselves who stated that they don't have problems with Spindlehorse, just with Viv. (Makes me wonder if the donation post was made on the Helluva Boss's Twitter account instead of Viv's, we wouldn't be dealing with this in the first place.)

Either way, the donation was initially accepted. And now it has been rejected. Maybe it's because of the comments Viv made, other Spindlehorse members made, or hell, even the Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel fans made. Or it could be something completely different. Whatever it is, Tracy (the creator/director of Lackadaisy) doesn't want Spindlehorse's money anymore.

I also do wonder if Viv knew that if she posted this email to Twitter, that her fans would get upset with Lackadasiy. I'm not trying to say that she would do soemthing like that intentionally, bit I wouldn't put that pass behind her.

I know I memed about women’s rights being a mistake (it was a joke calm down), but I don’t know what goes through women’s heads because I’m a man IRL. Are they legitimately this tribalistic and emotionally driven by nature? I don’t ask this out of hate, I’m just curious if any female kiwis can offer insight here as to what goes on because I don’t remember men having these kinds of slap fights and gossiping online.

 

[Weppers]

I don’t ask this out of hate

Why not? Maybe you should try it.

I don’t remember men having these kinds of slap fights and gossiping online.

I do. On the internet, at least. If you consider nerds on forums in the year 2007 men.

 

[FatalTater]

I don’t know what goes through women’s heads because I’m a man IRL. Are they legitimately this tribalistic and emotionally driven by nature?

Yes.
Until they're not.

 

[Dave.]

I do. On the internet, at least. If you consider nerds on forums in the year 2007 men.

I should’ve further specified. I meant in a professional setting or like between different companies. Granted social media wasn’t around then so I don’t know.

 

[Cave Fisher]

Last but not least, a Youtuber I've never heard of before who primarily makes videos centering around Hazbin and Helluva also made videos about this spat

Pack it up boys, the Twitter drama has reached Youtube.