Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Michael Wade]

Wait, what about his wife and satanism? I feel like I missed something

Alright so there was a photo going around of his wife on Instagram and she's got a hail saytan mug. The thing is... nobody and I mean nobody knows who or where the hell she came from.

I was hoping someone could do a little digging and figure out how long they've been together. If it's relatively recent it would fit that dudes theory that she's a chain around his neck to keep him in line.

 

[Polyraptor]

Oh, the fans will be back for Season 2. That dangling cliffhanger is like Halo 2's ending, except with zombies and time travel.

My guess is, they'll find some World Beyond Worlds shenanigans with the statues of the Mortis gods, the good guys will fight Dark Side Titus Pullo to prevent him from misusing it, (he'll probably try to kill Anakin in the past or something) and then the good guys will pop out of some portal in Lothal while Thrawn is burning the galaxy with his fleet and his space zombies.

Can we really not just have Death troopers (zombies) for once? Even SWG had them in game and they were in that clash of clans clone but the event was so rare it could be considered cut content.

The closest nu-wars has is rahkgouls and even then its half assed between a lab created mutagen and "ancient sith magic".

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Alright so there was a photo going around of his wife on Instagram and she's got a hail saytan mug. The thing is... nobody and I mean nobody knows who or where the hell she came from.

I was hoping someone could do a little digging and figure out how long they've been together. If it's relatively recent it would fit that dudes theory that she's a chain around his neck to keep him in line.

I thought he had married some gal who did Ahsoka cosplay a while back?

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Can we really not just have Death troopers (zombies) for once? Even SWG had them in game and they were in that clash of clans clone but the event was so rare it could be considered cut content.

We had them for a bit in this episode, but the Death Troopers from Rogue One have a backstory that allude to the idea that the Legends Death Troopers were canon, and Palpatine named the RO Death Troopers as a nod to the original Death Troopers, which was kind of a macabre joke. Then you have two RO Death Troopers become zombies in this episode, which brought the whole thing to a full circle.

The closest nu-wars has is rahkgouls and even then its half assed between a lab created mutagen and "ancient sith magic".

Rakghouls were a Legends innovation. First cropped up in 2003's KOTOR, if I remember correctly.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

a hail saytan mug

Big troon vibes

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Guys, have you heard? Star Wars is BACK BABY. Again. For like... The sixth time? Like that Dad who finally returned with the milk, but forgot the cereal and then the cutlery.

 

[Screamer_2]

The biggest sin of the series is so little thought or care was actually put into it. It's all like a first draft, the rough outlines without the details put in.

Thrawn hasn't been set up at all to be a feared villain. The characters have nothing but plot armour.

A few stand out moments of how badly thought out this was from this episode. Ashoka and co are being chased up the tower by the zombie troopers. Locking doors behind them as they go. Why are those doors not locked to begin with? The whole point was to stop them getting up the tower, why leave all the doors open when they can be shut? The slowly departing star destroyer. So slow so slow, so Ezra can do the jump. Next time we see it it's far out in space. Contrived.

Then to cap it off, Ezra landing on the Republic ship at the end. Why is he leaving the shuttle still in a stormtrooper outfit? At the very least, why with the helmet on? Obviously, it's meant to be for the reveal but there would have to have been no one watching who didn't know it was him. It makes zero sense in world or to the viewer at home he is doing this. It's to have a pointless meaningless moment for the sake of it. Hera even has to say his name, just in case you are still fooled by the character in different clothes once the helmet is off. It's just so strikingly amateur and pointless. I know this is meaningless but it is emblematic of the problems. There's no thought to anything in anyway being grounded or real. It really is children's TV level.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I know Disney would never do this, given that it's a company peddling stuff to kids, but it'd really be funny if Grand Admiral Dad Bod went full Warcraft 3 and poisoned the food supply of a given planet with something that turns the victims into zombies that can be controlled by Dathomiri witches. Imagine Sabine and Ahsoka, finding some portal on Peridia and emerging out of it to get to Lothal, only to see that what's left of the populace is barricading the city because a zombie outbreak has overtaken most of the planet, and Governor Clancy Brown and Ezra are down to their last ammo caches before the zombies eat them alive by the time Sabine and Ahsoka show up.

Still, it's hilarious to see all the people whining about how the ending wasn't definitive enough or conclusive enough. Guys, it's an obvious hook for the Filoni movie or another season. They didn't want this series ending on a conclusive note because it's meant to hook you in to further Disney shows and keep you subscribed to Disney Plus.

It really is children's TV level.

This is Rebels Season 5, after all. The same guy behind Rebels directed this show. This show predicated itself on Rebels nostalgia. What did you expect? If this was old Thrawn, he'd be coming back home with Ezra, Sabine, and Ahsoka in chains.

 

[starborn427614]

This is Rebels Season 5, after all. The same guy behind Rebels directed this show. This show predicated itself on Rebels nostalgia. What did you expect?

It even had cartoonish contrivances, like Sabine suddenly becoming proficient enough to force jump (albeit with help) across an impossibly huge gap. In terms of being a faithful sequel, one cannot fault it in this regard.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It even had cartoonish contrivances, like Sabine suddenly becoming proficient enough to force jump (albeit with help) across an impossibly huge gap. In terms of being a faithful sequel, one cannot fault it in this regard.

That is my point entirely. This was made for the Rebels fans, and they loved it. Disney's mission was to appeal to the grown-ups who watched the cartoons almost a decade ago, and in that regard, mission fucking accomplished.

The normies, however, are left scratching their heads as to where Baylan is headed, and why Thrawn is so feared.

 

[Michael Wade]

What's funny about the whole zombies thing is that also was done before in the old EU. (much better I might add.)

Are they just dead bodies or can they actually infect people? it would be hilarious if that happens. The EU zombies were dam near unstoppable short of nuking the site from orbit. These guys are gonna be total jobbers.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

What's funny about the whole zombies thing is that also was done before in the old EU. (much better I might add.)

I think that's the point; they were alluding to the old EU Death Troopers by having the new canon Death Troopers become zombies.

Are they just dead bodies or can they actually infect people? it would be hilarious if that happens. The EU zombies were dam near unstoppable short of nuking the site from orbit. These guys are gonna be total jobbers.

Just kill the bitch who's doing the spellcasting, and the zombies fall. We've seen this in TCW; that's how Grievous kicked their asses.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Thrawn hasn't been set up at all to be a feared villain. The characters have nothing but plot armour.

I canceled my Disney + subscription after Andor got retarded so all my knowledge about this show comes from the Star Wars commentators that occasionally pop up in my feed.

My understanding is Thrawn went from a leader of a secret empire in the unknown regions who nearly single-handedly toppled the New Republic to some retard marooned on a backwater planet for 10 years, fighting a *losing* gorilla war against rock-throwing crabs and one Jedi with no lightsaber. Please let me know if I have my facts wrong.

Filoni is such a retard that he struggles with the idea of object permanence. When Ezra, Thrawn, and the wales disappeared into hyperspace, the only explanation that made sense to him is them staying exactly as there were until they’re rediscovered by characters that are followed by the camera. The Thrawn of legends was a leader. In ten years, he would’ve built an empire that rivaled the new republic, no matter where he were teleported to.

 

[The Gene Genie]

Late to the party.

Filoni is a hack. The pacing in this show was terrible, the directing and set design uninspired, and it felt more and more like a Rebels sequel than its own thing. I've barely ever seen Rebels - only scenes, really - and without that I feel like I was missing most of the plot. Who were the space whales? Where did Ezra and Thrawn go? Why? Who knows? Who cares? But whatever, that's not my biggest gripe. My issue is that nothing makes sense. Thrawn acts like a retard, and I'm sure it's been covered, but what really grinded me was the dissonance between the urgency of the situation and what the main cast was doing. Ezra and Sabine are taking a Sunday drive with the crab people bullshitting and joking and laughing while the SS War Criminal is literally an hour or so away from breaking out of Space Argentina to restart the Fourth Reich. And Ahsoka, who's entire SET UP was trying to find Thrawn, doesn't seem to really care. Or at the end, even care that she basically lost.

I can't believe this was greenlit. And the worst part is, there were hints of a better plot. Ray and Ukrophottie trying to stop the Time Cycle and destroy the Universe, thereby making sure that this stupid shit stops happening. That was badass, based even, and it's mentioned in ONE (1) throwaway line and not brought up again and since Ray's dead it won't be.

I could go on but I don't care. I really don't. I'm not watching the second season. I hope it gets canceled.

At least watching Hayden beat the shit out of Rosario for a few minutes and call her a weak pussy was cool.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

I'm not surprised it's shit, and that they stole the idea of Death Troopers from the old EU. Goddamn Disney, those White SLavers. I will keep solely to EU works, and spit upon Kathleen Kennedy the moment in life I could.

 

[Screamer_2]

My understanding is Thrawn went from a leader of a secret empire in the unknown regions who nearly single-handedly toppled the New Republic to some retard marooned on a backwater planet for 10 years, fighting a *losing* gorilla war against rock-throwing crabs and one Jedi with no lightsaber. Please let me know if I have my facts wrong.

From what I gather, a Jedi called Ezra used space whales to get Thrawn and his star destroyed damaged and trapped on a planet in another galaxy. No idea what he's been doing besides waking up some witches and using them to communicate with a witch in the main galaxy to make a giant intergalactic hyperspace loop to come get him.

Ezra has been hanging out with large hermit craps. No light sabre. No idea what he has been doing. There's bandits. No idea what they have been doing. They don't seem at odds with Thrawns people. Thrawn's ship and storm troopers look like they've been having battles and repairing. Looks like they've had a really big struggle Against who we don't know.

He seemingly has just left Ezra to himself. Even though the witches can use magic to pin point where people is. So either they weren't bothering each other or the bad writing that was lazy. There's lots of little failed world building things like this.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

From what I gather, a Jedi called Ezra used space whales to get Thrawn and his star destroyed damaged and trapped on a planet in another galaxy. No idea what he's been doing besides waking up some witches and using them to communicate with a witch in the main galaxy to make a giant intergalactic hyperspace loop to come get him.

Ezra has been hanging out with large hermit craps. No idea what he has been doing. There's bandits. No idea what they have been doing. They don't seem at odds with Thrawns people. Thrawns ship and storm troopers look like they've been having battles and repairing. Against who we don't know.

He seemingly has just left Ezra to himself. Even though the witches can use magic to pin point where people is. So either they weren't bothering each other or the bad writing that was lazy. There's lots of little failed world building things like this.

Oh wow. Thrawn could’ve conquered an entire galaxy in ten years but he chose to do fuck all camping out on the first planet he landed on? Truly a villain genius.

Sounds like I didn’t miss a thing ignoring this series.

 

[The handsome tard]

I doubt they'll go for the Sabine/Ahsoka scissor sisters because people will start asking questions about their age difference.

As if that ever stopped them.

"Age is just a number"

Indeed. There was more potential to expand on their story. Imagine them doing operator shit on behalf of the Skywalkers; something like what the Republic Commandos were doing in the Clone Wars, except set in the post-Thrawn era. You can even make a game out of that. A sort of Republic Commando 2, if you will.

Imagine if, in Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, instead of seeing New Republic soldiers patrolling the temple, you see Nohgri bodyguards patrolling the academy grounds on the orders of Luke Skywalker, Vader's heir, and when they talk to him, they still call him ''Lord Vader'' since he's his father's son. Like say, imagine that in the middle of a conversation between you, Luke, and Kyle Katarn, two Nohgri are rushing to Luke, they wish to tell to Luke that someone broke into his quarters and sliced his records, so you see the Nohgri blurt out "LORD VADER! LORD VADER!" and they're calling out to Luke to tell him that someone broke into his room and read his diary.

Well, that would have lead to maybe some charming moments of Luke insisting they stop calling him "Lord Vader" and that they dont have to serve him. That he is ANAKIN's son, not Vader's and them just ignoring it. Luke decides to keep them around because they are surprisingly helpful, especially at this point in the new order.

It can get old but if used sparingly, it can work.

The Filoniverse live-action canon utterly fucks with the canon that was originally set up to explain the Sequel Trilogy, and remnants of the ST fandom are furious with that. Sure, you get nods and winks here like Operation Cinder and Hux sending the Praetorian Guards, but the narrative left over from the early D-canon works are clearly getting plowed through to create space for more Filoniverse works.

In other words, Disney's canon is a fucking mess of contradicting visions that has more holes made in a decade than Legends had in over several decades.

Disney truly turned Star wars into "The" sci-fi brand into just "a" sci-fi brand.

Lol you think they actually read the books?

You think anyone reads books these days? Lol

I can't believe people wasted 8 hours on this terrible-ass show in the vain hope that it would get better.

Shockingly the hot stove is still hot after all these days.

Maybe the next time we touch it, our hands wont hurt.

Very surprising that Darth Punisher's apprentice didn't turn on him to side with the Femme Force or at least briefly align with them since that's another Filoni trope.

They had that idea too late into production. Maybe next time.

There is just not enough meat on the bone on these shows. 8 episodes and we still dont know what Baylan is up to or much of his backstory. It always feels like a tease for the next season or movie with disney stuff.

The season ends with roles completely reversed. Ezra and thrawn back in the star wars galaxy and ashoka and sabine trapped in the other galaxy. Really makes it seem like we are spinning tires. I also predict season 2 will be more water treading. We are guaranteed 3-4 episodes of ashoka and sabine on that planet fighting Baylan and Shin and figuring out how to do another world between worlds loophole to get back. Probably an episode or two of new republic dithering with Hera and Ezra. They will splice in scenes here and there of thrawn building up his troops. We might finally get to thrawn engaging in battle with the new republic in season 2 finale and it might be interesting but then whoops.... sorry folks thats it. Go watch the super special team up movie with mando, baby grogu, and ashoka (only in theaters). The shills will rejoice and start prepping for their next trailer react video. Yeah we've had 16 episodes of garbage but now its the movie where we will see THRAWN UNLEASHED ON THE BIG SCREEN! LET'S GO!

I will probably be in my 40s by the time this amazing team up movie happens even if it does happen. Its all marketing and hype. Its never a good story or product in of itself. Just ask yourselves what happened in this show that could not have been predicted by watching the trailer. We are always going "well that was mediocre but they are clearly setting up something cool in the next series/film/trilogy." It is the same gimmick that they pull with the MCU but done more incompetently with star wars.

Christ almighty, and the worst part? I know you are probably right.
Culture is fucking dead.

Guys, have you heard? Star Wars is BACK BABY. Again. For like... The sixth time? Like that Dad who finally returned with the milk, but forgot the cereal and then the cutlery.

I hate this prick so fucking much.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

oh also that jillion dollar hotel closed forever lol star wars is doing great

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

If Ezra had any stones, he'd have stayed onboard Thrawn's Star Destroyer and waited for the opportunity to blow the man's brains out. He was already disguised as a Stormtrooper. Just patrol the place and pretend, then shoot Thrawn when he shows up, then carjack the shuttle to get away. It's not like the Nightsisters were able to pinpoint where he was when they were stranded on that desolate dirtball. Ezra could've ended it all there, and he chose to just run back home.

It'd be funny to see him try to convince the Senate, which already has a hard time believing things like Jedi or False Jedi, that Thrawn is coming at them with a zombie army provided by fucking witches. They'd have a massive laugh riot over that. At least, until Lothal gets overrun by zombies.........

@The handsome tard

Well, that would have lead to maybe some charming moments of Luke insisting they stop calling him "Lord Vader" and that they dont have to serve him. That he is ANAKIN's son, not Vader's and them just ignoring it. Luke decides to keep them around because they are surprisingly helpful, especially at this point in the new order.

It can get old but if used sparingly, it can work.

I'd think at a certain point, he'd just learn to embrace it. It was, after all, his father's name. Then you'd have the Nohgri kicking the shit out of the Reborn when they invade the Jedi Enclave during the events of Jedi Outcast.

In other words, Disney's canon is a fucking mess of contradicting visions that has more holes made in a decade than Legends had in over several decades.

Disney truly turned Star wars into "The" sci-fi brand into just "a" sci-fi brand.

That's been true for a lot of sci-fi series, being reduced from timeless classics to something that you'd see in the fucking SyFy channel as a low-budget action film/series.

Halo, Starcraft, Mass Effect, a lot of the greats have decayed, not just Star Wars. Mostly thanks to suits telling them to keep pumping out content, even when the writers don't have it in them anymore to make the classic-level stories that they used to make.

I think Gundam is one of the few series that remains free from this curse, and it's because the authors still have some leeway and freedom in writing their stories. That, and the official UC canon has been finished years ago.