Fallout series

[AFAB]

There's Fallout 4 as well, which I hear is a dumbed down Fallout game. It looks like Starfield.

It is a dumbed down Fallout game. The gameplay is decent enough that you might get some enjoyment out of it, but the story is a mess.

 

[The Last Stand]

It is a dumbed down Fallout game. The gameplay is decent enough that you might get some enjoyment out of it, but the story is a mess.

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass: Fallout explores political themes but is largely an apolitcal game. I assume the political theme is exploring civilization after the government bombs it fending for survival. Is that true? Fallout 3 looks like it's stuck in the 1950s since the bombs dropped.

 

[TheHarbinger]

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass: Fallout explores political themes but is largely an apolitcal game.

New Vegas has lots of political storylines. Like deciding who is going to be the sheriff of Primm. Or how choosing the faction for the ending can dramatically affect the Wasteland. And many if not most main and side quests can be solved diplomatically or without needing weapons. Even things like choosing how to distribute things like the power from Helios One is part of governing and controlling the infrastructure of the Mojave. Generally stats like 'Speech' or 'Barter' are the ones that resolve most political quests.

Fallout 3, 4, and 76 are basically first-person-shooters with almost no storylines beyond "loot this area" or "shoot these enemies". Bethesda games are basically shooter games unrelated to Fallout in any way other than using familiar monsters and weapons and other iconic art and designs like vaults or pip-boys.

 

[why42]

You know I watched a bit of the show with a coworker who's only ever played fallout 4 and I've realized the people shilling this show probably only ever played 4 and don't know anything about the other games. To me it's strange that most people have never played at least 3 or nv. Fallout 4 literally released like 5 years after nv. I just don't get it bros. I always thought nv was considered most popular and a normie game apparently not and your toxic if you only like nv now.
Here is a shill channel for the TV show that's make excuses for how God awful it is.

https://youtu.be/bAiuFeMKntM?si=6kE9_L_qvSm576Zf

 

[The Last Stand]

New Vegas was an Obsidian based title. Fallout arguably was divisive WITH that title since 3 but before 4 because they went a slightly different direction in tone.

 

[Conan]

hate when im halfway through a new vegas game using guns in a grunt build and start thinking
"why am i using generic m16s and garands that I could use in any other shooter" and I want to use energy weapons so i start a new game.

and then halfway through an energy weapons game I start thinking "man I sure love my guns" so i start a new game.

why must I suffer when all i desire is to kill

 

[God of Nothing]

hate when im halfway through a new vegas game using guns in a grunt build and start thinking
"why am i using generic m16s and garands that I could use in any other shooter" and I want to use energy weapons so i start a new game.

and then halfway through an energy weapons game I start thinking "man I sure love my guns" so i start a new game.

why must I suffer when all i desire is to kill

Energy weapons are just too unsatisfying for me. Even when I make a build for them. Oh wow, everything dies in two shots. Crits galore. Hurraaaaaaay.
I like guns. Manual reload ensures you have to switch in some cases or that it's better to switch instead of reload. I can go from handgun to shotgun to rifle and all handle differently, especially if you have any recoil mods. Energy weapons are all the same.

Really should do a big guns kind of build sometime, but that's just overkill. Also, finding weapons to repair them with.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Energy weapons are just too unsatisfying for me. Even when I make a build for them. Oh wow, everything dies in two shots. Crits galore. Hurraaaaaaay.
I like guns. Manual reload ensures you have to switch in some cases or that it's better to switch instead of reload. I can go from handgun to shotgun to rifle and all handle differently, especially if you have any recoil mods. Energy weapons are all the same.

Really should do a big guns kind of build sometime, but that's just overkill. Also, finding weapons to repair them with.

There's also so much more variety with guns. Pistols, shotguns, rifles and SMGs galore. Each gun has so much individual personality to them in a way that energy weapons fail to display. Every laser pistol is the same and the plasma pistol is unsatisfying but all the ballistic pistols have drawbacks, perks and identity to themselves.

 

[TheHarbinger]

New Vegas was an Obsidian based title. Fallout arguably was divisive WITH that title since 3 but before 4 because they went a slightly different direction in tone.

The Bethestards outnumbered fans of Fallout 1 and 2 by probably 1,000 to 1 when Fallout 3 first came out. It wasn't until New Vegas where people realized that Fallout 3 was mediocre and began going back to the original games and lore. New Vegas was the divisive game. Fallout 3 was pop culture trash that was played by millions compared to the much smaller fanbase of the first two games.

When New Vegas came out people discovered that it was a way different direction and tone compared to Fallout 3. And was obviously made by an entirely unrelated team of writers and developers. And when they began playing the first two games that the lore of Fallout 3 was contradictory and lazy. Uninspired. At that point Bethesda knew that if they wanted to take the franchise into the first-person-shooter without RPG mechanics direction that they had to never work with Obsidian or Black Isle again. And push their Skyrim/Starfield style of gameplay on the franchise from now on including making the franchise a multiplayer only game with no story and no NPCs. Voiced protagonists. Comedic dialog and writing. Goofy tone.

 

[The Pulverizer]

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass: Fallout explores political themes but is largely an apolitcal game. I assume the political theme is exploring civilization after the government bombs it fending for survival. Is that true? Fallout 3 looks like it's stuck in the 1950s since the bombs dropped.

The factions in Fallout all represent a different way of thinking. They're all pit against each other because each side wants the post-nuclear civilization to be they way they want to.

The games are political in nature, but they don't tell you how to think. That's kind of the whole appeal. Western civilization has turned into a blank slate and you can basically do whatever you want to it.

 

[The Pulverizer]

It wasn't until New Vegas where people realized that Fallout 3 was mediocre and began going back to the original games and lore. New Vegas was the divisive game. Fallout 3 was pop culture trash that was played by millions compared to the much smaller fanbase of the first two games.

Is there anything worse than being an OG Fallout fan? Your beloved franchise is owned by one of the worst companies in gaming, which was then bought out by the worst company in gaming.

 

[The Backwards Man]

Does anybody have a backup of Schizo Elijahs content? He just DFE'd.

This comes 2 months after updating his channels about me section to a long-winded story about how he found God because he played the honest hearts DLC or whatever while ironically mentioning how he wouldn't delete his channel because he despises lost media.

 

[God of Nothing]

Does anybody have a backup of Schizo Elijahs content? He just DFE'd out of nowhere.

This comes after 2 months after updating his channels about me section to a long-winded story about how he found God because he played the honest hearts DLC or whatever while ironically mentioning how he wouldn't delete his channel because he despises lost media.

one hell of a coincidink
i just got done binging all the stuff he had that interested me, like, two days ago
what the hell happened?

 

[The Backwards Man]

what the hell happened?

 

[Queen Aleena]

Schizo was funny for how hard he made certain parts of the fanbase utterly shit and piss themselves in seething rage. Ramblelime and other faggots like him still get triggered by 'Right wing Chuds' evangelizing the wrong factions and that's mostly thanks to Sneed and Schizo.

Thank god, I thought no one hated Ramblelime but me. If I'm remembering correctly he basically shit all over the entire Someguy series for making tribals look savage and calling it racist without actually looking into the novels Someguy was directly referencing.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

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Ohh man I used to watch this guy for a while last year it's good to know he had a happy ending though may you find brother Elijah

 

[God of Nothing]

Thank god, I thought no one hated Ramblelime but me. If I'm remembering correctly he basically shit all over the entire Someguy series for making tribals look savage and calling it racist without actually looking into the novels Someguy was directly referencing.

of all the things to criticize about someguy, he really picked muh tribals

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

you my gooba.

Yoink, into my notepad.

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For the love of God, stop feeding the trolls. I rarely meet one who is consistently amusing to warrant feeding.

For somebody new to Bethesda games and RPGs

Please tell me you started with good RPGs...also welcome to one of the best and worst video game genres, you'll never leave.

There's Fallout 4 as well, which I hear is a dumbed down Fallout game. It looks like Starfield.

Yes, and...yes. More specifically Starfuck is on the Creation Engine 2. Skyrim, Fo4, and Fo76 are on the first Creation Engine, so you can see how they feel similar, especially Fo4 and Fo76 since Fo76 is basically multiplayer Fo4 on a different map. Don't play either. Damn you must be brand new my man.

I always thought nv was considered most popular and a normie game apparently not and your toxic if you only like nv now.

How did you come up with that conclusion? Fo4 blows NV out of the water in terms of popularity. If anything NV is "trooncore" because of how many trannies infest the community around it because "muh politics."

Does anybody have a backup of Schizo Elijahs content? He just DFE'd.

This comes 2 months after updating his channels about me section to a long-winded story about how he found God because he played the honest hearts DLC or whatever while ironically mentioning how he wouldn't delete his channel because he despises lost media.

Holy fuck he actually deleted everything. 200% faggot. Any respect I had for him is now gone, like tears in the rain. Not that there was much left given the (unproved still?) allegations.

 

[SauceRyuKen]

For somebody new to Bethesda games and RPGs, can it be overwhelming?

It's pretty much an action game with an RPG levelling system. There's aim assist in it that you typically won't even notice. Just click close-ish to heads and the game will make the shots work for you. If you're worried about dying a lot just build high Endurance. Lone Wanderer's also the second most powerful Fallout protagonist ever. And without trying, too. Everyone else has to somehow game the system but Wanderer's power comes very naturally from just applying some common sense. Any game where you can be potentially sitting on 10K effective HP in your pocket isn't gonna be very difficult.

Almost every Fallout protagonist plays different but Wanderer's probably the simplest. Fallout 3 has really effective armor, the max damage reduction you can reach is 94%(!!!) you can very easily reach 10 on every Special, you get a perk every level and it's easy to drown in more than enough skill points to get perfect scores on every skill. Most of the perks are just generally pretty damn good, as well. So are quest rewards. Clad in power armor, if you get your hands on Vengeance, the unique gatling laser, you're pretty much good to melt everything and everyone you meet with very minimal effort. Even the harder enemies like Deathclaws have easy ways to get around them, in their case, a dart gun that cripples both legs in one shot.

Even with the high potential a minmaxed Wanderer can reach, it's not at all necessary. The game showers you in Stimpaks and other drugs that make it easy to stay alive if you play conservatively. Companions are very effective fighters in most situations. There's quite a few unique and powerful weapons you can get early on (Lincoln's Repeater, Ol' Painless, Sydney's Ultra SMG) that will easily carry you through most of the game. And then there's VATS. VATS is a HUGE crutch.

The main thing is when in doubt just spam VATS. It makes you take only chip damage from whatever, and at level 20 you get this perk called Grim Reaper's Sprint that refunds all your points if you manage to kill even one dude with it. VATS has an increased critical chance, and it is fast enough that you can use it to parry missiles with your face with very little consequence. Most enemy groups have at least one or two scrubs you'll be able to take out in one VATS burst, which gives you more attempts to actually crit the big threats. You can stockpile Jet and coast through the game just spamming this. It's THAT strong. Come New Vegas it was nerfed, and even Fallout 4 didn't restore it to it's former invincible tank glory.

I went through all the DLCs in sort of a blurry haze. I vaguely remember the plots. The Pitt had Big Boss fighting a slaver boss and Point Lookout had us helping a ghoul kill a brain in a jar. Broken Steel was kind of endgame fights vs the Enclave but nothing posed much of a challenge to a T-60 power armor with Vengeance.

Even if let's say one is hypothetically hopeless at videogames it's easy enough to get bad karma early on and get carried through the early game by Jericho, get to Underworld and buy Charon's contract to get carried by him for a good, long while, then finish up with good karma and get carried by Fawkes who can literally solo the remainder of the game for a player no matter how hamhanded they are.

Broken Steel does introduce enemies you gotta cheese or just have top level gear to take down reliably. Super Mutant Masters have more health and are way more dangerous than even Behemoths. Feral Ghoul Reavers are much like Deathclaws: Extremely dangerous up close but not a threat if you dart gun them. Simultaneously, Broken Steel raises the level caps for companions so Fawkes becomes even more of a gamebreaker. Dogmeat also gets a gorillion HP so you can avoid the inevitable sad when the dumb mutt eventually rushes into a field full of explosives and gets oneshot.

New Vegas I'd say can be overwhelming. Courier Six can never manmode the way Lone Wanderer's able to. Even at max health and Damage Threshold Deathclaws can threeshot his ass, and there's no easy Dart Gun either. Courier also has to very carefully craft his build to specialize in something specific while Wanderer just kinda naturally ends up being a master of everything. Courier has to carefully minmax and do exploits to be able to have a 10 10 10 1 10 10 10 SPECIAL. Lone just has to hit Level 30 and then grab the Bobbleheads to get perfect 10s, a privilege usually reserved for final bosses only. New Vegas has the opposite of aim assist, in fact: You can have your sights dead on the enemy's head and your shots can go all over the place, as it takes weapon accuracy and a bunch of other stuff into account.. Fallout 3 is pretty easy and leans way more action-y than anything. NV's more of an RPG.

Even perk design in New Vegas is far more complex than anything F3 had. There's a lot of reading and planning ahead to build optimally in New Vegas. In F3 it's like... Remember to pick Demolitions Expert if you plan on using Explosives much, pick Damage Reduction perks, pick VATS perks, Finesse, Better Criticals, you're all good. You'll have enough skill points to max every weapon skill, damage seems to scale directly off of that, and there's no strength or skill requirements to use anything. Wanderer's literally enough of a badass to grab a Chinese Assault Rifle off the floor and go to town on a pack of supermutants and easily win. Courier would be plotting how to best attack them from stealth with a sniper rifle he took a month to master, needed to get two different implants to even lift, and two weeks gambling at the casinos to acquire after doing all the drugs known to man just to stand a chance.

TL;DR: Fallout 3 is easy peasy and very accessible, which is a big part of why it was so popular, basically an action game with RPG levelling. New Vegas is big brained game for big brained munchkins, much in the spirit of the originals. Fallout 4 is even more dumbed down than 3.

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

Honestly dont hate oblivion, game is a gigantic meme, but the level scaling absolutely kills it for me, maybe eventually when I feel like playing it again Ill mod the fuck out of it.

I genuinely can't blame you and do the same.

The cyberwear shit is great and someone even made all the fancy gear as a standalone, too. Yeah, the Advanced Recon Armor is OP as fuck but considering there's a ton of Cazadors between it and you I'd say that's fair. As nice as the Dinner Bell is fuck Red Lucy for making me fight past Deathclaws to get it, so its nice to get something more along the way.

100%, I have been meaning to grab the standalone gear but I have been a lazy fuck when it comes to NV the last few months. I mean you are gonna fuck her by the end of that questline.

Energy weapons are just too unsatisfying for me. Even when I make a build for them. Oh wow, everything dies in two shots. Crits galore. Hurraaaaaaay.
I like guns. Manual reload ensures you have to switch in some cases or that it's better to switch instead of reload. I can go from handgun to shotgun to rifle and all handle differently, especially if you have any recoil mods. Energy weapons are all the same.

Really should do a big guns kind of build sometime, but that's just overkill. Also, finding weapons to repair them with.

Which recoil mods would you recommend, I legit forgot if I had any installed.