why are you still single - and general discussion of the dating game

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You can just ignore them and go on with your day and not do weird shit like that.
I don't tolerate stupid people and will fuck with them to get them to go away and leave me the hell alone. There's a point in life when you realize you don't HAVE to tolerate bad people. It's not about politics or cultural things necessarily, but rather for the sake of your own peace and sanity. A friend who makes you walk on eggshells isn't a friend and doesn't deserve your time or energy. You want your life as drama free as possible. If that means being nasty to people you don't want around you, do it. They can go be retarded elsewhere, just not in my vicinity.

I'm single because I want to put myself in a better financial situation before I establish any kind of relationship going forward in the future. I genuinely would like a wife with some kids in a house with a pet or two. It might take me half a decade to accomplish it but I'm willing to wait that long. Currently right now I'm comfortable with talking to women but I still need more time to mature before I can start getting into the dating scene.
That's a good attitude to have. There's nothing wrong with taking your time, but earlier in this thread someone mentioned about waiting too long. Love is a young person's game to a degree, and that's very true. Take your time, but follow your gut if something comes along that feels right.
 
I hate being single, it's been absolute torture. I've never had any kind of volunteer job, paid gig, or any kind of job/work whatsoever.
More importantly, I've never kissed or hugged a girl that was not a casual greeting at a family meeting (which also stopped happening for the past 6 years, even on my birthday nobody but my mom showed up.
Dad passed away when I was 17, now I'm 28 and all this is things I struggle with.
I'm definitely an i-dont-care-o-vert. I can go intro, extro, doesn't matter. I was diagnosed with aspergers at 8 due to always being the clown of the class, I guess provoking reactions from normies just made me happy.
Now I recently got rediagnosed and I also have been convinced my entire life of this, and that is that I do not have autism. I simply just have a i-dont-care mentality. I dont care about bright lights, being overwhelmed, having people around me. Heck, I once drove 4 hours in the morning to hit up 5 shopping malls in a row, then 5 hours back, didn't flinch. Had a 2 month period of a convention every week where I smooth talk to every stranger there without worry.
My biggest problem is I get bored from talking to the same person for too long. I get this mental drain. When I talk to someone about a common interest, like recently a videogame nobody knows from 1999 and the person I talked with made fanart of the characters, while the game for me was mostly about the gameplay, the setting and the story. I didn't care at all for this person's blobby 8-bit representations of my childhood game characters.

I just want to try having a normal relationship with a female. Out of sheer boredom I've been trying to see how easy it is to become-the-girlfriend, as in, become trans, and even though I genuinely don't care it would be nice if I hormonally looked like a person that is easy to approach (I never get approached as a male). I bullshitted my way all the way to a diagnosis and a hormonal treatment even though there are 0 signs of me being interested in being the other gender apart from wanting to be approachable by other people. I always lie, I always start a conversation where I want something instead of "Hey sorry to bother you can i have this?", I say "So I came in here a couple weeks ago (lie) and I heard from a colleague of yours (lie) that you are willing to have people test these devices. I myself have much experience (lie) and then I just get waived by. It's genuinely easier to come up with lies than trying to dig through my shitty memory.

Lastly I also worry about if I even had a childhood and didn't just pop into existence. I remember vague details of museums my parents took me to but then I can only imagine in my head how they look like now, from news articles and re-visits. The oldest clear memory I have is of my high school. I genuinely don't remember my grade school at all.
 
My biggest problem is I get bored from talking to the same person for too long. I get this mental drain.
That's normal. One-on-one conversations can feel like an endurance test, especially if you have to carry them on for a long time -- but that's why they're necessary to have. It's like weight training for your personality. If you feel that these kinds of discussions become stale quickly, it's probably a sign that you should work on steering the conversation back into more engaging territory.

I just want to try having a normal relationship with a female. Out of sheer boredom I've been trying to see how easy it is to become-the-girlfriend, as in, become trans, and even though I genuinely don't care it would be nice if I hormonally looked like a person that is easy to approach (I never get approached as a male).
Get off the estro pills, idiot, they will screw you up BIG TIME. I don't know where you got the idea that girls and women are "easy to approach", or what that even means to you; if anything, guys are often more reluctant to approach women than vice versa, because we're naturally more imposing and don't want to risk coming off as creepy.

Not that any of that is relevant in your case. If you look like a tranny then nobody will approach you. Women might act nice to placate you, but if you're really as not-autistic as you claim to be, you'll quickly discern their behaviour for what it is: a thin façade meant to satisfy the potentially dangerous adult male crossdresser trying to infiltrate their ranks. That's not how you make gal pals.

Lastly I also worry about if I even had a childhood and didn't just pop into existence. I remember vague details of museums my parents took me to but then I can only imagine in my head how they look like now, from news articles and re-visits. The oldest clear memory I have is of my high school. I genuinely don't remember my grade school at all.
Again, normal. Some people just have shockingly poor autobiographical memory. (t. someone with zero recall ability for anything before senior high)
 
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I hate being single, it's been absolute torture. I've never had any kind of volunteer job, paid gig, or any kind of job/work whatsoever.
More importantly, I've never kissed or hugged a girl that was not a casual greeting at a family meeting (which also stopped happening for the past 6 years, even on my birthday nobody but my mom showed up.
Dad passed away when I was 17, now I'm 28 and all this is things I struggle with.
Holy fuck man, I am sorry to hear that.

I don't know where you got the idea that girls and women are "easy to approach", or what that even means to you; if anything, guys are often more reluctant to approach women than vice versa, because we're naturally more imposing and don't want to risk coming off as creepy.
Meh, I don't find women difficult to approach. As long as I can think of something to say or talk about. Mind you it took a long time to get comfortable with rejection though...
 
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I'm single because I want to put myself in a better financial situation before I establish any kind of relationship going forward in the future. I genuinely would like a wife with some kids in a house with a pet or two. It might take me half a decade to accomplish it but I'm willing to wait that long. Currently right now I'm comfortable with talking to women but I still need more time to mature before I can start getting into the dating scene. realistically speaking I have to understand that I'm not going to be successful too much yet my brain refuses to acknowledge that partly.
I had the same mindset, but looking back I think it set me back a lot when getting into the dating scene because I am in my late 20s with the knowledge and experience of a virgin high schooler when it comes to women, dating, and sex. I don't have much issue talking to women and going on dates, but there is something I am missing that pushes it into a real relationship.
 
Now I recently got rediagnosed and I also have been convinced my entire life of this, and that is that I do not have autism. I simply just have a i-dont-care mentality. I dont care about bright lights, being overwhelmed, having people around me. Heck, I once drove 4 hours in the morning to hit up 5 shopping malls in a row, then 5 hours back, didn't flinch. Had a 2 month period of a convention every week where I smooth talk to every stranger there without worry
Reading the rest of this has me convinced that you have really bad ADD. You might actually need Ritalin. I bet the reason you don't have a girlfriend is because most people you meet want to snap their fingers at you within a second of meeting you.
 
Cause I've been burned quite a few times like many other men. The love shit hurts worse than the physical injuries I've accumulated. Even tooth nerve pain isn't as harrowing as that emotional whiplash, you get over it but them scars end up there somehow if you don't properly sort it out which I didn't I let it build up when I was a smaller lad. I can handle physical pain, that can heal and be treated, you have faggots in this chat recommending medicine that can alter AND neuter your mental states over disorders as if we need more zombies on SSRIs and autism meds just to MAYBE socialize. Not doomerposting, I am optimistic and plan to have kids with a good woman. I just don't know how to get one (to keep) since I'm an autist.
I know you aren't supposed to share personal deets here but believe me, I can't seem to handle emotional damage of that variety due to personally witnessing nasty relationships end on disturbing or upsetting notes. Combine all of this with the fact that women are fickle, have cheated on the most successful or nicest men I come to know, sometimes you ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? And it just sucks the only answer is praying they were raised well or hoping the person you loved so much doesn't change for the worst but its out of our control.

I can handle being single for the rest of my life because if some bitch breaks my heart I'm not sure if I'll be the same man. It sounds lame but if you struggle with mental and emotional pain I'm sure you could relate.
 
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I've been the kind of person that doesn't stand out. I don't think I'm actually ugly, just average, but I struggle to show any personality and I refuse to "put on an act". I think that older women have tried to flirt with me, maybe even somebody age-appropriate, but autism got in the way and I have social anxiety and I refuse to approach any person in public.

Recently I'm pretty sure a girl I wanted to approach got swept under my feet and felt really bad about it, but both of them seem happy so that's nice I guess. Hopefully, in the near future, I will live on my own, then I think I'll just try a dating app and see if I can have at least a chance.

The only thing keeping me sane is working out way too much.
 
better financial situation before I establish any kind of relationship going forward in the future
My 2 cents are that your situation will never be perfect (I am finding that out now (I have been struggling the past 3 months to find a job) but should be pretty stable for a while. Find a girl who compliments your skillset. Some essential part of homelife that you struggle at try and find someone who can fill that, not essential obviously but just a thought.
 
I forget if I've previously posted here, but time refines our opinions and outlooks.
I've come to realize I'll likely never enter a long term relationship, or any for that matter. I've recently come to terms with finding out (or rather, remembering) that I was given a childhood sperg diagnosis, and in some ways it genuinely made my life a bit clearer. Isolated childhood, severe chemical imbalances, life-threatening medication issues, self-gaslighting due to certain events in middle school, etc, all seemed to fit into the frame, whereas before it just felt like God was punishing me for something.

Despite the rambling negativity, it has led me to more confidently examine my situation. I'm happy alone, and outside of work usually don't say much; I would feel like a monster if my children were to inherit my issues; I have severe issues with picking up on social cues. Not really a keeper. My struggle has been the feeling of guilt for not giving my parents grandkids, since my troon sister won't be doing that. I love my parents and despite everything, they've given me so much; the guilt doesn't fade.

If I ever come across someone that changes my mind, I'm more than open to it. If not, I'll see how far I go in my career and try to leave money to my nephews. At least I love what I do.

Tldr antisocial sperg
 
"Why are you still single:" Because I got ridiculed as a youth with prank calls by schoolmates for fake dates and interests piled on top of other trust and abandonment issues. My relationships don't last as those reasons manifest themselves in giving up effort the moment I sense other party lost some interest or is simply talking less. The sensation is completely made up but it's inescapable thought that just burns every bridge. The only thing that nearly lasted was "I can fix her", where I just hid my issues by concerning myself with someone elses. I am broken and it will never get better.
Anyone feigning interest in me also unnerves me to no end.
 
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Holy shit, this thread is reaching peak levels of autism. Like, levels comparable to the "asking women for advice thread". Like ngl if you faggots

Cool, y'all are fucked in the head? Congrats, you meet the requirement for being on this site. Doing the woe is me shit won't get you anywhere on the site unless you're using it as exposure therapy in which case get ready to be ridiculed.

If you're so desperate for sex, go get a fleshlight or just find a whore. Give your would be "female" a break. It would be better for both of you. There's a reason that historically only 40% of men reproduced. Which, if you're bitching in this thread about being single then you're a testament to why. Shockingly your partner's feelings matter too and if you have abandonment issues, get ready for things to suck in a constant loop of paranoia about her abandoning you. Autistic? Congrats, your children have a higher chance of having the 'tism and raising a fellow tard ain't a walk in the park.

Being single isn't bad, stop fetishizing getting your dicks wet.
 
Edit: Okay, it was too rambly of a post.

TLDR: I met a woman at a professional event, she seemed really, genuinely interested in me. Like, trying to be by my side into me, having a long conversation on a bus that felt like we were on a date, lights up like her day has just been made when she sees me in the morning, all of that. But I was the wrong religion (I knew it was a long shot just from how she was dressed) so she turned me down, but was super sweet and even asked for my number and wanted a picture with me after turning me down.

I'm both happy I met her, asked her out, all that and also disappointed. I actually want her even more now, have been thinking abuot it all day, but it is what it is.

I asked a woman out a few days ago. Conservatively-dressed Muslim woman (wore the hijab), actually.

We were at a professional event together, several days, and she seemed like she was really into me. It started just that we were talking (part of a bigger group) at a table for much of the day, but something got her on my mind, I think her asking what I had planned for after all this was done (I make it clear that I've got nowhere to be) and I was hoping she might sit by me later. She actually did, made a beeline for the open seat I left beside me, and then kind of clung to my side to ride with me on a bus.

So on this ride I make a point to get off the subject of the event and onto hobbies, which she lit up/got excited when I asked her what she does for fun. I felt like I was being real smooth with it. She mentions going out to the country to pick fruit, I mention picking berries with my mother as a child and still picking some off the bushes when I take a hike. She has X brothers and Y sisters, I have Y brothers and X sisters. Gets into family stuff, starts to get more personal, opens up a bit. At this point it feels like it's turned, in some informal way, into a (short, 45 minute-ish) date. If I went wrong anywhere it was getting into faith a bit with her. But when we got off the bus I didn't know how to tie that off and cowardice took over and so when she got into a conversation with another person I slunk off. I pondered over what it was I expected or wanted. In the biggest flights of imagination it would be to take her into town and sleep with her in her own apartment. In reality, I figured it could be nothing but a one-off date for its own sake, and I actually liked that idea.

The next day, last day of the event, she sees me at breakfast. Beams with the biggest smile and waves at me from across the room, which makes me feel like a million dollars. I make a point to, early on, ask her what she's got planned after all this, but her answer isn't encouraging. Busy work, deadlines to meet, go back into town (she lives there locally). There's basically no time to do anything after the event is over because the dinguses that ran it scheduled it way too full. Then we just wind up at different tables, you go to these things, you don't want to hump one person's leg all the time, you know. You'll make a few friends and focus on them, but you don't monopolize their time. She does seek out my side after that, tries (though the need to pack people in closely separated us) to get next to me in the group photo.

Finally what I did was, waiting on another shuttle, I just wait for her to pass by, compose myself and ask her if I can sit with her. She's seeming a little perturbed now, like maybe she's realized what's starting to happen. Now, I have decided before that I don't care for contrived flirting, "game," any of that shit. Flirting comes in just in the playfulness of how you speak with them, body language, games with the eyes (stealing glances, if they're open to you they'll probably find an excuse to approach you). Physical escalation I am still absolutely awful at. It will work on my own terms or not at all, so I approach in a manner that comes more natural to me, which is warm and old-fashioned (down to choices of word like "smitten").

I tell her upfront, but happy/sweet expression and all, that I've become smitten with her and would have liked to take her out, but it's not clear how that's going to work logistically. She asks for clarification, do I mean a date, yes, then she starts to explain, mildly upset, what a courtship is and that a Muslim woman cannot marry a dhimmi man and so on. I let her know that I understand, told her how sweet she was. She asks for my number, actually asks me to exchange contact information. I wanted a photo with her - a friend I made on a past event wanted one with me, and that got me in the habit of taking them with the people I talk to more - and she was happy to take it and wanted a copy herself. And ask me if I was going out to dinner (hoping to see me there, though it was actually the last we talked; I didn't want to pester her and we just didn't happen to wind up at the same tables, that's how it goes).

Despite my disappointment, which would rise and fall like a cycle, I went on to have a great dinner talking with some of my other favorite people and had other nice conversations before leaving and a sense, in conjunction with my religious practices on the way home, that everything was in harmony in that moment.

Looking back on it all, I really do think she was attracted to me, but perhaps subconsciously, or without any ambition. Attracted, not attracted enough to violate her religious precepts. Either way, I feel like she took a real shine to me, romantic or platonic.

My largest issue has been approaching very little, and also feeling like women look right through me, which was not the case here. I made a point to make myself be decisive. Most well-adjusted men learn to overcome fear of approach/rejection in grade school and then to build confidence through what successes they do have, because even well-adjusted men will miss more often than they hit. But there is a complex of maladaptive thoughts that the kind of men who post here, self included, adopt. One such is an anxiety that rises with the stakes. The better it is going the more seriously you take it, then perfectionism sets in (you don't want to blow it now) and decisive action never happens. The rarer the attention is, the worse that is because the individual feels like a person who is suddenly starving. I made a point to avoid that, except perhaps for if I could have tried to touch her on that bus, and I don't know that it would have been welcome. (That is one point against her having been attracted, but also filtered through culture. She came across as very comfortable in my presence but not physical. I don't recall having made her laugh much either, didn't really joke a lot.)

There is also an importance in how a person processes their disappointment. In the long run the only women you really remember are the ones that were a major part of your life, either because you had something with them or you tortured yourself chasing after them for too long. Which for me would be three women across some ten years of adult life, one girlfriend, one that went on dates but just strung me along, one that I went three years before asking on a date. But I think it's fair to say I hadn't asked any woman out in years until one last year, and then one this Summer, and now this one just two months later. That fear of approach/rejection can only be overcome through desensitization, and I actually do feel, in some ways, a surge of confidence after being rejected (because the world didn't end). But the last one who turned me down, well, I didn't actually ask her on a date. I was trying to get more time to talk with her to build up to the date. But it didn't go anywhere. Reason I bring it up is that I felt bitter/uncharitably towards her, and for little justifiable reason, it was just sour grapes. This woman left me feeling some mixture of acceptance and loving (it's not going to happen and I like her even more because of how kind she was) and impressed by her.
 
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at this point i am single because i have given up and make no effort. i tried, but at this point in my life im resigned to say i failed and will just never get the wife and kids i want. sucks a lot, but ill survive.

I've been the kind of person that doesn't stand out. I don't think I'm actually ugly, just average, but I struggle to show any personality and I refuse to "put on an act". I think that older women have tried to flirt with me, maybe even somebody age-appropriate, but autism got in the way and I have social anxiety and I refuse to approach any person in public.

i feel this. back when i tried this was it. i dont stand out in any meaningful way. i dont put on acts, i literally am myself and dont try to impress anyone. as for looks, i have had a few women who i trust confirm im not ugly, just not hot or anything. couple that with social autism and no money and no fame and you get a situation where most women just look passed you.
 
They neglect the reality that most young single women do not go to church
Not totally true. My church has lots of single girls in my age range

That isn't to say that's like the "cool place" to meet women exactly, but there are single girls who believe in god

That doesn't mean they'll actually want you though, that's a different story
 
I've never kissed or hugged a girl that was not a casual greeting at a family meeting
I was diagnosed with aspergers at 8
And.........
I've been trying to see how easy it is to become-the-girlfriend, as in, become trans,
There it is.

Seriously don't do it, your life is already bad enough having lost your dad so early and dealing with mental issues to on top of all become a medical experiment.

Check the SRS horrors and tranny Ls threads and tell me with a straight face you still want to go ahead with that.
(I never get approached as a male)
Hardly any men do* ever, women just don't approach men unless he is a living god or she's a massive slut who is also too ugly to have any men dare to hit her, which in this day and age of desperate fucks means she's AKIRA-levels of body horror.

For women approaching men is a sign of failure, only a woman who is too ugly/fat/mean/awful has to "lower" herself to break the ice with a guy. This is why this post-metoo era is driving them nuts because after millennia of men going to them suddenly they don't anymore, and most women would rather buy a cat than suffer the indignity of asking a guy they like if they want to go out.

Sheeeeit, even on fucking dating apps they demand you message first, even on those where the woman has to message you first to start the convo.

Point is if you want to punch that V-card you're gonna have to approach the women yourself, tons of times, until one says yes. That's the way it works now, it was always a shitty system for most men but remember: we're playing on nightmare mode.


*Romantically of course, being approached because she's asking for directions does not count.
 
My sympathetic nervous system goes on overdrive on social situations. It's probably a characteristic of hunter-gatherer brains, who tend to be very shy regarding strangers to their tribes. My personality is pretty much everything that Andreas Hofer describes regarding autism as a hunger-gatherer brain.
Unfortunately I'm of the Aspergers with the neuroticism dial too turned too high. I have a brother who has it in the sweet spot and was a womanizer. I'm more creative and ambitious, but at the expense of high anxiety and depression, which ruins most of the good thing of it, the things that could have made me very rich and sexually succesful.

I failed to score in the chances I had before 18, and by leaving school I just fell of the sexual pool altogether. My mother's death made me even more isolate. I interact with people, if I'm lucky, every month or sometimes a little more.
I have a little hope that by the end of the year I will become rich with some borderline illegal scheme that I'm devising, and my situation with women gets better but, realistically, what will likely happen is that I invite some whores to my house and they end up stealing my ceramic elephant ornament I have over the furniture and I neither fuck.

I really wish I had the uncle that takes to you-know-where in my early teens. I really needed that step, it would had changed my life for the better.
 
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