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DocAwe said:
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Sorry the photo was taken with a potato but this is literally the one I saw.
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it's really hard to tell from that photo, but if you put hands on it and it had a non-functional FA, it's a bit weird.

usually the Colt-made LMG's had the target sights (from the M16A2/Colt 701) but lacked a forward assist entirely, either it was milled off the forging or it was entirely absent from the forging, leaving only the shell deflector. Diemaco typically had the combat sights (the simpler XM16 / Colt 601 sights) but retained the FA, albeit non-functional. when the C7 LSW was adopted by Canada the carry handle and sights were eliminated and replaced with an accessory rail for the C79 optic as it was together with the C7A1 rifle as part of a joint program with Colt at the time (which resulted in the M16A2 LMG as a member of the Colt Automatic Rifle, or CAR, product line). the Colt 950 also did this.

it's a little odd to see a C7 LSW with the carry handle as to my knowledge, zero were ever produced - so maybe it's either a prototype or very early rifle, or someone made a clone or something.

brand new in box 1986 Colt M16A2 LMG, notice the FA has been milled off the upper:
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I met a guy through work that is an FFL and he’s supposedly selling “NVGs and thermals”.

1.) is there any reason to own NVGs or thermals if you’re just a retard who goes to the range to shoot paper or to the desert to shoot steel? If you don’t go hunting in low light conditions, is it basically another “gucci” item to buy to flex on the poorfags?
2.) how legitimate of a proposition does that sound like? I remember reading somewhere on here that high quality NVGs aren’t cheap and the technology for Made in USA ones are proprietary secret squirrel shit.

Guy said he supposedly “has a buddy” that works for a manufacturer in the state that he moved here from. It could all be bullshit but I know there’s posters ITT far more knowledgeable than me about that stuff.
 
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Nate Higgers said:
1.) is there any reason to own NVGs or thermals if you’re just a retard who goes to the range to shoot paper or to the desert to shoot steel? If you don’t go hunting in low light conditions, is it basically another “gucci” item to buy to flex on the poorfags?
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if you don't do anything in low or no light, they're largely an expensive toy. same for the matching illuminators, lasers, or accessories.
Nate Higgers said:
2.) how legitimate of a proposition does that sound like? I remember reading somewhere on here that high quality NVGs aren’t cheap and the technology for Made in USA ones are proprietary secret squirrel shit.
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you don't need an FFL to deal in PVS (be it thermal or light amplifying). good PVS these days start at $3k-4k for a cheaper ATN PVS-14 and scale up. some beat up gulf war stuff a bit cheaper. a PVS-7 or clone is around $2.5k in very good used condition, for example, and doable at under $1k for the cheapest thermal optic that's worth using (i don't recommend this, but it's possible for the sometimes pest controller or hunter). my own PVS i'm confident in my ability to use for serious fighting wass around $7k for everything.
Nate Higgers said:
Guy said he supposedly “has a buddy” that works for a manufacturer in the state that he moved here from.
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i kinda don't like this answer because stolen gear is a felony waiting to happen, and PVS are export controlled items (ITAR). either get clarification and concrete paperwork or gamble on catching a felony.
 
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Romulus augustulus said:
LOL, those are stolen. a good set of NV starts at 3k and goes from there.
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Club Sandwich said:
i kinda don't like this answer because stolen gear is a felony waiting to happen, and PVS are export controlled items (ITAR). either get clarification and concrete paperwork or gamble on catching a felony.
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That’s mostly what I was thinking too. Good catch on the ITAR regulation status though, @Club Sandwich . That’s probably what I was thinking towards the end of my last post.

I really have no need for NVG or thermals, I was just wondering if my “this sounds too good to be true” gut feeling was right. The guy never said any specific dollar figures but for a “garage FFL”, there’s still plenty of room for grey area fuckery there and I like to stay out of trouble and keep my nose clean.
 
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Nate Higgers said:
1.) is there any reason to own NVGs or thermals if you’re just a retard who goes to the range to shoot paper or to the desert to shoot steel? If you don’t go hunting in low light conditions, is it basically another “gucci” item to buy to flex on the poorfags?
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You'd be better off taking a carbine class and buying buckets full of 556 that are equal in price to high quality duty NVGs.
 
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EggImpregnator said:
You'd be better off taking a carbine class and buying buckets full of 556 that are equal in price to high quality duty NVGs.
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I’d be more than willing to take a proper shooting class but I have been working on stacking 9mm and .223+5.56 for a year and a half now.

I only have about 3,000 rounds of mixed .223+5.56 but I don’t get out to the range as often as I’d like anymore.
 
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Nate Higgers said:
I’d be more than willing to take a proper shooting class but I have been working on stacking 9mm and .223+5.56 for a year and a half now.
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I have a pvs 14 and never use it. The biggest problem ive run into is finding ranges that will let you shoot at night. I have one close by that lets me, but only once a month, because the owner wants to be there. Also i can't do anything besides sit/stand at the firing line. No moving or anything. And IR lasers/illuminators make my gun heavy af so i took them off.

Honestly its cool to have and walk around with in the woods, but if i could redo it, i would have rather gotten proffesional training and much more ammo.

Ammo prices seem to just get more and more expensive these days. I'm stocking now while i can. Perhaps in 4 years we'll look back on 40cpr brass reman 223 as "the good times". I mean just look at this """"""""deal"""""""" of 50cpr steel case 762x39.foto_no_exif (1) (28).jpg
 
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EggImpregnator said:
No carry handle on the barrel? Thats either a repro upper or weird one off prototype.
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I don't know man, what you see is the gun.
It was definitely an open bolt and all the parts in the lower were like nothing I had ever seen before.
Hammer was really strange way.
Safety was strictly on/auto.
Barrel was ultra heavy, gas tube was unique.
Bolt was slick.
You can tell it was quite some time ago just from the quality of the picture.
The whole thing overall was weird but everything was Colt from what I recall.
 
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DocAwe said:
everything was Colt from what I recall.
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admittedly that doesn't mean much. Colt's commercial products have varied specifications over the years and they are known to have made mix-master rifles when they discontinued a specific feature just so it's not sitting on a shelf somewhere. there's nothing stopping anyone from making an all-Colt LMG upper receiver group with M16A2 upper receiver to mate with a normal M16A2 LMG lower. if you had seen and noted the lower receiver markings it would make identifying it definitively much easier.
 
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Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
can you even actually hit anything with those? looking at it, i think it has side of barn MOA.
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Its a piston gun that is 'silenced' by containing the gas inside the cartridge, so by the time it leaves said cartridge the acceleration is over and there isn't a ton of point in having a barrel, hence them sawing it off
 
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DocAwe said:
I don't know man, what you see is the gun.
It was definitely an open bolt and all the parts in the lower were like nothing I had ever seen before.
Hammer was really strange way.
Safety was strictly on/auto.
Barrel was ultra heavy, gas tube was unique.
Bolt was slick.
You can tell it was quite some time ago just from the quality of the picture.
The whole thing overall was weird but everything was Colt from what I recall.
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Interestingly there was supposedly a closed bolt version as well.
 
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Samhain said:
NODs are nice for stargazing and UFO spotting. Not worth buying unless you've got $4k+ burning a hole in your pocket, though.
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This just sounds like poorfag cope by someone that doesn't have a KAC SR-15, night force NX8, dbal-a3, surefire light, and dual PVS 14s. Its not like you need to see AT NIGHT or anything. Why don't you just take all your gear off and leave it out in the open for us NVGgers to take so we don't have to treat your corpse as a loot drop mkay? If you don't have NVGs and IR aiming devices, you're pretty much defenseless and might as well not even try and fight back when SHTF.

this is sarcasm meant to make fun of people. I dont actually think this.
 
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Nate Higgers said:
is there any reason to own NVGs or thermals if you’re just a retard who goes to the range to shoot paper or to the desert to shoot steel? If you don’t go hunting in low light conditions, is it basically another “gucci” item to buy to flex on the poorfags?
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Yes! (I plan on going to a Milsim west game and mostly use mine for grabbing to go pee in the dark and walk around at night)
 
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