Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Poonocchio]

Do they not...talk to their butchers about what the surgery is about? Discuss the long-term outcomes? Complications? Or at least read the informed consent form where the procedure is usually explained in lay terms? Did someone tell them you're supposed to do that before any surgery?

Why am I even asking, most of them probably research more about their funko pop or transformers plastic trash than the life-changing permanent body modifications they're about to go through.

Nah, the groomers of Reddit know better, you can skip that shit for the coom. Same with the hormones, don't listen to the endocrinologist, listen to Lillith making troonshine plastic bag HRT in his bathtub about which doses are  safer going to give you more moobage.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Do they not...talk to their butchers about what the surgery is about?

No.

Discuss the long-term outcomes?

No.

Complications?

No.

Or at least read the informed consent form where the procedure is usually explained in lay terms?

No.

Did someone tell them you're supposed to do that before any surgery?

No.

Because Reddit.

 

[Sweet Musica]

Answered within your own post:



Lol, no.
It's such a feminine thing to do, calling ugly kids "cute" or "adorable". IDK why you do it but you do it.

Ugly children are like pugs.

 

[Lady Farishta]

I wonder how a vaginectomy affects women's bowel functions. I mean, the vagina is structurally connected to the rectum, I believe, so how does vaginectomy not cause damage to the whole area?

nightmare fuel indeed.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

Because Reddit.

And for parents who sign off on trooning out their minor kid with no questions asked, it's because WPATH. (They're world professionals on troon healthcare! It sez so in the name!)

Spoiler: Slight power level

A trans parent told me that she wasn't concerned at all about yeeting the teats on her 17 yr old daughter because they were following the "Standards of Care" by those crazy WPATH fucks. Mommy Dearest was employed in the medical field too. FFS.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

I had to do a unit on FGM in a sociology class, and trust me when I say no matter how bad a vaginectomy sounds, it is much, much worse. That shit is nightmare fuel. Knowing batshit insane pooners though, they'd hear about women getting their clits cut off and vaginas literally sewn shut and just be jealous they can't get that done themselves.

Same. As fucked as male circumcision can get (David Reimer's case began from a severely botched one, after all), it's got nothing on FGM. The basic clit removal type is barbaric enough. Infibulation where the poor woman gets cut up and then the remains stitched then cut up and stitched then repeat for sex and/or childbirth is one of the worst cruelties I can think of. "Hellish" still feels like an understatement despite that's the best word I can think of to describe it. The more I think about it, the more dread I feel since it just. gets. worse. Knowing there are women that want a form of that for any reason is insane to me.

Every time it gets brought up I like to introduce people to this picture just to show how fucking barbaric the vnectomy surgery actually is. Be warned, NSFW NSFL NSFA.

Fuck me, I remembered the picture and decided to click anyway as a refresher. It was worse than I remembered! How is it worse?!

I wonder how a vaginectomy affects women's bowel functions. I mean, the vagina is structurally connected to the rectum, I believe, so how does vaginectomy not cause damage to the whole area?

nightmare fuel indeed.

I decided to look this up, considering how women can experience vaginal prolapse or poor bladder control post-hysterectomy since the uterus and cervix help "anchor" the female reproductive system as a whole. Amongst the massive amount of "muh trans man affirming surgery" text in this Cleveland Clinic article:



(No really, it is actually gross how much of this article about a procedure historically performed on cancer patients talks about how it is a hecking valid way for chicks that think they should have dicks to feel more affirmed. Virtually every section has at least one paragraph mentioning pooners (often in a praiseworthy tone).



I have a feeling that on the off chance that tranny medicine has a full fledged lobotomy level backlash that this article will be heavily purged to remove these mentions, so here's an archive.)

 

[Procrastinhater]

Same. As fucked as male circumcision can get (David Reimer's case began from a severely botched one, after all), it's got nothing on FGM. The basic clit removal type is barbaric enough. Infibulation where the poor woman gets cut up and then the remains stitched then cut up and stitched then repeat for sex and/or childbirth is one of the worst cruelties I can think of. "Hellish" still feels like an understatement despite that's the best word I can think of to describe it. The more I think about it, the more dread I feel since it just. gets. worse. Knowing there are women that want a form of that for any reason is insane to me.

What I never understood about that shit is the fucking savages in the shitholes that practice it that are doing it to little girls aren't the men, it's the older women in the tribe, how the fuck people who have had that shit done to them subject their own kids to that shit too is beyond me.

Animals and kids being hurt are the two things that set me off. And old people I guess, unless they're like old assholes that deserve bad shit through karma for being scum themselves.
Animals and kids don't.

 

[a tightly clenched butt]

I had to re-read this a couple times thinking she had been with her since they were both 12. But I think she's a Scandi, it's that screwy Scandi grammar.

She's German, she mentions it on her reddit account. Also mentions going to a clinic in Munich for the fake dong procedure. The clinic is called Dr.Lubos Kliniken.

Anyway, something for the thread - a neovagina with no clit.

Spoiler: sideways smile

(https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgende...12ta7/tina_rashid_ppv_srs_robotic_peritoneal/)
https://archive.is/wip/9Ln5E

And to round it off, a neovagina in its rare "plucked turkey" phase.

Spoiler: It looks very alarming but also sad

(https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgende...vaginoplasty_dr_houtmeyers_in_belgium_290724/)

https://archive.is/wip/kb0cA

 

[Lady Farishta]

What I never understood about that shit is the fucking savages in the shitholes that practice it that are doing it to little girls aren't the men, it's the older women in the tribe, how the fuck people who have had that shit done to them subject their own kids to that shit too is beyond me.

I don't want to get my posts deleted again for "off-topic circumcision talk" but I think it's the same with circumcision in America with dads wanting their sons to be "the same" as dad. okay, arguably not the same because fgm is--again, arguably--more gruesome than cutting the foreskin off brand-new baby boys. (is it?) but I suppose it's similar in my head: I had it done to me, and you're gonna have it done to you as well.

 

[Fapcop]

She's German, she mentions it on her reddit account. Also mentions going to a clinic in Munich for the fake dong procedure. The clinic is called Dr.Lubos Kliniken.

Anyway, something for the thread - a neovagina with no clit.

Spoiler: sideways smile

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(https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgende...12ta7/tina_rashid_ppv_srs_robotic_peritoneal/)
https://archive.is/wip/9Ln5E

Lol! He paid £40K for that monstrosity. Imagine what kind of car, and what kind of hookers you could have had with that kinda money!

These coombrained faggots/pooners seem to think that a SRS surgery is just like buying a couch.

But surgery is as more of an art (even when it’s a degenerate one) than a piece of furniture or a car. Doesn’t matter how much you spend, the results aren’t something you can guarantee.

I don't want to get my posts deleted again for "off-topic circumcision talk" but I think it's the same with circumcision in America with dads wanting their sons to be "the same" as dad. okay, arguably not the same because fgm is--again, arguably--more gruesome than cutting the foreskin off brand-new baby boys. (is it?) but I suppose it's similar in my head: I had it done to me, and you're gonna have it done to you as well.

Damn right! If I had the blessing of reaching adulthood without a disgusting foreskin, why would I curse my own child to an unhygienic flesh flap violating his penis?

 

[Iron Jaguar]

What I never understood about that shit is the fucking savages in the shitholes that practice it that are doing it to little girls aren't the men, it's the older women in the tribe, how the fuck people who have had that shit done to them subject their own kids to that shit too is beyond me.

It's always like that. In every cult, the most ardent followers are women. Even under Communism it was notable that the worst excesses were by women.

 

[Sweet Musica]

Know this might get some red x’s, but I do wonder how much of this “I can’t look after myself because I wasn’t taught” stuff is from parents not being around as much when the children were young. In many countries now, it’s just not possible to survive financially without two incomes, certainly not if you have children. Less time with kids, less time of the kids being around mum and dad, watching the jobs that they do around the home (and garden/garage, if they have them).

Could also be that kids are too engrossed in tv, vidya and online creepo forums to pay attention, but these basic skills used to be taught earlier than that anyway. I’m an oldfag, we still had ‘home and family’ lessons in school and we were all taught basic sewing, cooking, woodwork and electrics, both boys and girls.

Maybe it’s a bonding thing? My parents certainly had their issues but little kids tend to adore their parents anyway, unless there’s really horrific abuse going on. They want to hang around their parents when they’re young - I’m talking like 3-7 kind of age, where you follow mum round while she hoovers and she lets you have a go with the duster and shows you about lifting things up to dust underneath them. That kind of thing. Do parents just not do that now? Are kids tied to screens from babyhood?

Man, this is depressing. No wonder so many kids are dumb enough to think bodies are plug and play and that communism is as easy as making rich people pay for your rent and door dash. I’ve made myself sad now.

Let the kids play, ffs. This internet-raised generation is gonna be the death of us.

A common cause of emotional neglect is parents working too many hours and being too stressed over money. Not be physically available to your kids is a form of neglect.

 

[Hubelublub]

What I never understood about that shit is the fucking savages in the shitholes that practice it that are doing it to little girls aren't the men, it's the older women in the tribe, how the fuck people who have had that shit done to them subject their own kids to that shit too is beyond me.

The answer is in your post. These women live in shitholes, where their rights are non-existent. In most all of these places, beating your wife is completely legal, if not even expected as a way of keeping the bitches in line. The women in these shitholes have no independent income, no way to escape, and no way of even saying no to a man's instructions. What choice do they really have?

 

[Squishie PP]

It's always like that. In every cult, the most ardent followers are women. Even under Communism it was notable that the worst excesses were by women.

This is why women are preferentially hired into middle management roles in medium-large corporations, governments, NGOs, and nonprofits by the way. They are more likely to use consensus/norm adherence as a proxy for morality and logic than men are.

 

[pink cigarettes]

Every time it gets brought up I like to introduce people to this picture just to show how fucking barbaric the vnectomy surgery actually is. Be warned, NSFW NSFL NSFA.

I'm glad you included this. People have no idea what these surgeries entail and especially what this one means. It isn't just sewing things up (which is bad enough). It isn't reversible in any sense. Because the vagina isn't just some random hole in the body (as MTF troons like to believe), it is an entire sex organ. Once it's gone, it's gone.

The answer is in your post. These women live in shitholes, where their rights are non-existent. In most all of these places, beating your wife is completely legal, if not even expected as a way of keeping the bitches in line. The women in these shitholes have no independent income, no way to escape, and no way of even saying no to a man's instructions. What choice do they really have?

Not to mention that the "it was done to me, and I turned out fine" drive is VERY STRONG. The alternative is admitting that your life was tragic, you too were butchered by women, your culture sucks, and your people are acting like disgusting savages. Copium is very strong.

 

[Peaches Demure]

I'm glad you included this. People have no idea what these surgeries entail and especially what this one means. It isn't just sewing things up (which is bad enough). It isn't reversible in any sense. Because the vagina isn't just some random hole in the body (as MTF troons like to believe), it is an entire sex organ. Once it's gone, it's gone.

Not to mention that the "it was done to me, and I turned out fine" drive is VERY STRONG. The alternative is admitting that your life was tragic, you too were butchered by women, your culture sucks, and your people are acting like disgusting savages. Copium is very strong.

There is also the belief that their daughter won't ever get a good match in marriage unless they're mutilated, because all uncut women are whores with insatiable sex drives.

 

[Argos]

It's always like that. In every cult, the most ardent followers are women. Even under Communism it was notable that the worst excesses were by women.

",I had to suffer through it, you do, too."

Take that mindset and magnify it by every woman around you.

It's difficult enough to buck social norms over frivolous things for most people, let alone something like this

 

[2mm and 99 others]

It's always like that. In every cult, the most ardent followers are women. Even under Communism it was notable that the worst excesses were by women.

Gimme the examples of those excesses. I am always open to learn.

The people who come to seize your business? Most likely not women.
Those who would seize all your food resources, so you have to eat corpses? Soldiers, most of them aren't women.
Those who gonna beat the shit out of you and break every bone in your body in a dark prison? Take a guess.
Who were those who would shoot you if you tried to cross a border? Soldiers again, so not women.
Who were the majority of those who gave orders to all the above? Yeah, I take a look at all those degenerate politician mugs and see so many woman faces between them.
Those who will take away your newborn baby and will leave it for death from cold and hunger? Likely there were some female prison guards involved, but who made the orders?
Yes, woman on woman violence definitely exists and no point in denying it, but who sets the conditions for these Stanford experiments (this contains the answer as for why does it even happen) and the most ultimate pickme-isms in a gigantic scale? Is it women in a significant percent?

 

[TismFarmer]

the good ship MS POONER COPE!

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On the good ship Pooner Cope
It's a bad trip, until you rope
And then they'll say...
She wasn't really trans anyway..

 

[Sourceress]

There is also the belief that their daughter won't ever get a good match in marriage unless they're mutilated, because all uncut women are whores with insatiable sex drives.

The marriage part is a huge deal. In many of the parts of the world (and communities elsewhere) where FGM is still practiced, women have few rights and unmarried women have even less and are seen as a burden carried by their parents. Men won't marry a girl who hasn't been mutilated, so they feel they must do it.

The driving factor here is that the men in these communities demand access to girls who have been mutilated. The women might be the ones holding the knives, but the men are the ones telling them they have to use them - and further, telling them that if they don't, their daughters will be alone (or their problem forever) and without the marginal income, rights, future, etc. that marriage affords.

It's the same reason why women had their daughters' feet bound in ancient China - the men in that society demanded that their wives have smaller and smaller feet as a display of their (the men's) wealth and status, so mothers were motivated to ensure that their daughters had impossibly small feet through ritual mutilation, because otherwise their daughters would be paupers and have no future and not even access to the marginal rights a married woman had.

In all these cases, the women may be the ones carrying out the practice, but it is always driven by the men in the society. Which.. tracks, since we're talking about patriarchal societies where women have or had few to no rights and could only attain any semblance of rights or status through marriage. Sure, there's an element of tradition and "I had to live through this, so you do too" but it's marginal compared to the impact of the people with all of the rights and privileges in society making demands of the people with none of those things in order to attain even a minimum standard of living.