Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

This is not surprising, given Joe’s views on fists in women’s faces.
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This version of the infamous fist pic is important because with the caption included, it’s clear that this was in no way, shape, or form a stolen picture. Joe’s sole defense is to claim this was stolen, when he freely posted it out to the world, particularly to anyone who followed that (originally public) sex bunker instagram account during the covid lockdowns. Sharing it in its entirety is an easy way to shut down his cope about the whole thing. Doesn’t look so stolen when he’s bragging about posting it to Mal’s applause in the original post.
Meanwhile, back in Brooklyn, excitement mounts as the Sept. 14 U.S. launch of Feminism Against Cisness approaches starring Grace Lavery, Beans Velocci, Emma Heaney, and Jonna Wuest at the Lesbian Herstory Archives. Will Joe phone it in or is his airfare covered?
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Feminism Against Cisness (sic) you say? So, feminism against women. That’s just a fancy tricksy way to hold an MRA rally. Right up Joe’s alley.

Sure I could deconstruct the stupid made up word, cisness, in more depth, though with the way it’s being used in that upcoming conference title, it’s clearly an attack on women disguised as feminism. Troons think they’re so tricky with their navel gazing bullshit. Men still won’t ever be women, (& vice versa) but to be frank, this cis-bs comes from AGP’s trying to create a subclass of woman. Pooners jumped on the cis-train for the free prepackaged word salad. Holding an allegedly feminist conference on that shit is an absolute oxymoron.
What the fuck happened to Ortberg?
Right? It’s startling at first, but the question remains. I simplify it as another case of trying too hard. Her pretensions became fatal. Ortberg didn’t survive. Tard Baby’s driving the bus now & for the foreseeable future, unless she pulls a Leviticus on her self respect, but, yeah right. That’s not gonna happen. After the fact, it becomes easy to wonder, did she ever have any self respect at all? I think she did, but it’s been through an emulsifying process or some other mastication à la Joe. Dead to rights, now.

When this house of cards finally takes a tumble, Moe’s sure to keep Eyeore-ing around in some frumpy old jumper, playing quaint word games on her debt-substack about the transient nature of existence, using Ancient Greek philosophers as a stand in for herself & her lost families, both the birth fam & the horror show troon throuple troupe.
Side note: who are these dumbass reply gals? Do we really need to restate and explain Mallory's mildly humorous caption in extreme detail?
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Those dumb ass reply girls are what’s left of Moe’s fanbase, imo. Maybe a few baby poons who buy what she’s selling, a scant few to be sure. They keep her alive by fluffing her ego just enough to suffer another day of toil & trouble in The Joe & Lily Show, guest starring Baby. She hasn’t made it into the opening sequence yet, but if she wipes enough ass, eats enough tomato parsnip water, & doesn’t have emotions, she might one day receive a guest spot. Making a few bucks, asap, is her only other hope to stay on as a show producer. Even though she’s the original producer, Curly nabbed up the rights quicker than Moe could take her monthly testosterone shot, but thankfully before she got to the phalloplasty.
 
. My main question revolves around the "finely-slicked raw rhubarb"...bro that is giant hunks of rhubarb which is not a nice raw vegetable.
My grandmother more finely slices when chunking up stuff for her lunch.

Here’s something Joe and I have in common: neither of us are too excited by the Oasis reunion. I think the band is dull. He however has a more quixotic rationale.

First, he correctly mocks the band’s lyrics.

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This is also Liam's opinion of those early albums lyrics. And Noel's too depending on his mood.

I feel like I've seen one of them do this same exact bit about Wonderwall on a TV show.

Yelena's now a shrink in Chicago and Evanston, IL, having added a master's in clinical counseling and psychotherapy to her PhD in art history. LinkedIn

Good for you, Yelena. Your thruple thoughts would be enthralling.
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Off topic but the worst transition story is Todd VanDerWerff
It really is. Mediocre writer at the AV Club- which was a fantastic place with great smart commenters for a good while.
Todd was always going on about his severe Christian fundamentalist upbringing, like in every movie review where it was not germane in the least. I didn't care then or now. It didn't surprise me that he trooned out hard. IIRC When some minor employee was accused of #MeToo offenses or something at Onion Inc., VanDerWerff made a complaint with "I feel unsafe" which is a trigger phrase in HR departments everywhere that troons have been weaponizing for years to get people they don't like or go along with their tranny delusions fired. But "Emily" VanDerWerff lived like, 20 states and a time zone away. He never had to interact with this print supervisor or whatever the fuck. Troons will lie about anything and everything to get their way. "Emily" VanDerWerff has since changed his name again i think, but I'm beyond giving a fuck. Much like Mallory, he was building a decent reputation as a writer then trashed it all for troonery.
 
"Emily" VanDerWerff has since changed his name again i think, but I'm beyond giving a fuck. Much like Mallory, he was building a decent reputation as a writer then trashed it all for troonery.
Multiple name changes (trans or not), is always a red flag. What they really want is to get away from themselves. (Mallory Ortberg/Daniel Ortberg/Daniel Lavery....)

EDIT: I found out vanderwerff now goes by "Emily St James". Sounds like a 1970s soap opera star.
 
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There was a cringey story in Esquire this month and it made me think of Mallory. An article written by a transman sent to “Lost Boys” a 3-day camp for transmen only. The writer worried about surviving camp, even though it was only a long weekend and in cabins.

The story just highlighted how most transmen are simply a new snowflake creation and bare little resemblance to actual men. They are joyfully comfortable around other transmen in this weird cosplay. I only see pooners socialize with women and others trannies. Never do they seem to socialize or congregate with the average straight (or gay) men they aim to be and try to emulate. They demonstrate none of the aggression or competitive streak that I associate with all normal male behavior.

I only ever see Pooners with actual men in weird corporate PR and advertising campaigns.

I must add, the author mentioned this camp in PA used cabins and facilities used for adolescent and teen boys, which I found amusing because you could actually never have grown ass men in such accommodations. It’s some real Peter Pan shit going on with pooners.

So it made me think of Mallory and how I’ve never seen her socialize or be around men, except for Joe, and gay or trans men at public events. Being around actual men just highlights their otherness, but they can pass off some level of masculinity if they are only around women or other trannies.

I also think real men are absolutely foreign to them in both mind and social habits. Being a transman seems to have little to do with being a male, but about getting a unique status and not having to adhere to female social norms among female peers. I can see this have huge appeal to Mallory as she entered her 30’s.

I’ll change my mind when these transmen actually live and socialize like men, among men, instead of forever remaining in female spaces or among one another.

I don’t even think pooners would have a hard time in some (non-competitive) male spaces. Men aren’t paying close attention to other men in casual social situations (outside of business). Pooners just have no interest in hanging out with actual men, it’s about their position among females. It’s good that rotdogs are terrible, because at least as long as they keep their original equipment lesbians won’t have a problem dating them.
 
Like almost all of Joe's millions of Instagram Stories, this one is not original content. He reposts tons of sexual shit and rAnDoM meme stuff every day. I found this one particularly tasteless because 1.) he's (supposedly) a college professor and these are college students, 2.) there are several freshmen and sophomores on this wrestling team. There's no guarantee that all of them are even of age and some of them are definitely just 18 or 19.
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Like almost all of Joe's millions of Instagram Stories, this one is not original content. He reposts tons of sexual shit and rAnDoM meme stuff every day. I found this one particularly tasteless because 1.) he's (supposedly) a college professor and these are college students, 2.) there are several freshmen and sophomores on this wrestling team. There's no guarantee that all of them are even of age and some of them are definitely just 18 or 19.
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Not only that, he has an infant son. Who he also uses sexualizing language about online. As does the boy's biological mother.

Everyone calls me a doomer for pointing out the obvious on this topic whenever it comes up, but it remains obvious.
 
Like almost all of Joe's millions of Instagram Stories, this one is not original content. He reposts tons of sexual shit and rAnDoM meme stuff every day. I found this one particularly tasteless because 1.) he's (supposedly) a college professor and these are college students, 2.) there are several freshmen and sophomores on this wrestling team. There's no guarantee that all of them are even of age and some of them are definitely just 18 or 19.
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Oh what a cheeky joke all in good fun, certainly male college wrestlers don't have a history of being creeped on by predatory older men oh wait
 
Oh what a cheeky joke all in good fun, certainly male college wrestlers don't have a history of being creeped on by predatory older men oh wait
At least college wrestlers can chin whip the old creeps into submission in three seconds. The old creeps fantasize about such things, but would not enjoy the reality.

Honestly the best self-defense lessons I got were from college wrestlers. (Also made me really understand the vast difference in physical strength between the genders.)

Maybe Joe really is just a creepy old fag, he wishes he could afford rent boys, but had to settle for Tard Baby and Lilly because he’s so low in the gay hook-up hierarchy (old, not rich, fat, saggy boobs). Easier for him to find fag hags types to be in relationships with than attractive men.
 
At least college wrestlers can chin whip the old creeps into submission in three seconds. The old creeps fantasize about such things, but would not enjoy the reality.
Unless that old creep is a coach, team doctor, or other authority figure associated with your school.

On the female side, Lilly's employer is still paying out for the worst sexual abuse scandal in American sports history.

Yes I'm being sensitive but ugh a university employee (even if it's just in name only) salivating over barely legal college athletes is an extremely grody look, even for Joe.
 
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Off topic but the worst transition story is Todd VanDerWerff who used to write for the Onion's AV Club. He decided he was a woman while watching A Handmaid's Tale which is deeply strange that you'd want to be a part of the oppressed class on a TV show. What is it with writers?
Oh it’s even worse than that. Todd chose his girl name because he was inspired by the character Emily who undergoes a forced clitorectomy.
 
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Unless that old creep is a coach, team doctor, or other authority figure associated with your school.

On the female side, Lilly's employer is still paying out for the worst sexual abuse scandal in American sports history.

Yes I'm being sensitive but ugh a university employee (even if it's just in name only) salivating over barely legal college athletes is an extremely grody look, even for Joe.
Wait, that was a thirst post? I didn't see any text/context. Wtf, what a nasty old cunt* he is.

*not a fan of the word; I'm mocking him in British.
 
At least college wrestlers can chin whip the old creeps into submission in three seconds. The old creeps fantasize about such things, but would not enjoy the reality.

That only helps if you think of all predators as the type that just like, randomly walk up and assault people. Most predators who fixate on young men will use methods like blackmail (there's a common internet-predator technique that involves catfishing teenage boys, getting them to send compromising pictures to their new online "girlfriend," and then blackmailing them over the pictures), or slowly work their way into the victim's life as an authority figure, or intoxicate them.

None of this applies to Joe thankfully, who I think doesn't have much actual real-life interest in molesting boys, but rather wants to cultivate an image as a sexual libertine. Not realizing that he just comes off as an old, jowly, unwashed creep instead.

Yes I'm being sensitive but ugh a university employee (even if it's just in name only) salivating over barely legal college athletes is an extremely grody look, even for Joe.

It is funny that he's already in the position of being a professor who cheated on and cucked his wife with his mistress, posted gross sex pictures of said wife online, and grossed out students with his weird sex poetry. And he apparently sat down and thought, "Yes, I'm a creepy middle-aged college prof, but how can I widen the range of my creepiness?" Oh I know, I'll include college-aged boys as well. Damn, Grace, you're a genius."
 
Just don't call him a muppet. Big Bird and I go way back.
I confess to having referred to my kids as moppets (another Britishism) a handful (very few; even though I like that term, I'm not quite that affected) of times over the many years. But no, Joe, isn't even up to British muppet standards, no worries.
 
Wtf, what a nasty old cunt* he is.

*not a fan of the word; I'm mocking him in British.

In this context, a British person would be more likely to call him a nonce, pedo or perv. Cunt is more for when a man* is generally behaving in a shitty or stupid fashion. Thus Joe is an utter cunt to Mal, and a sad old pedo online. Source: am Australian, and we have similar usage of the c-word. We also have an additional term for pedo: rock spider.

Everyone calls me a doomer for pointing out the obvious on this topic whenever it comes up, but it remains obvious.

I am more than ready to eat shit if you are proven right, but your predictions include not just that Joe will rape his son but sired him to pimp him out to his network. So much of his behaviour is about shocking the normies. His sexual history, even at university, was very very straight. Occam’s razor: he’s all about the pussy and the pose.

* it’s not really a common insult for women, at least in Australia, and I think in the UK too. Bitch is the go-to insult. You can also use it where the sex of the person is unknown, eg “What silly cunt did that?” If the person is then revealed to be a woman, you would then switch to bitch; if a man, you can carry on calling him a silly cunt. Also, because Australia, cunt can be used as a term of endearment between men.
 
I am more than ready to eat shit if you are proven right, but your predictions include not just that Joe will rape his son but sired him to pimp him out to his network. So much of his behaviour is about shocking the normies. His sexual history, even at university, was very very straight. Occam’s razor: he’s all about the pussy and the pose.
Are you familiar with the Desmond thread/trajectory? That was all about mom trying to score avant garde points, to start, and the "making available to perverts" was just something that was bound to happen on the way down the slope. I think Joe will try to make it "artsier" but that doesn't mean it won't be just as degenerate and have the same net impact on the child.
 
Cunt is more for when a man* is generally behaving in a shitty or stupid fashion.
That's exactly what I meant.

I'm trying to economize on my epithets, so I picked the one that got at my specific point. Goes without saying he's a sexual creep. (But say it again!)
it’s not really a common insult for women, at least in Australia, and I think in the UK too. Bitch is the go-to insult. You can also use it where the sex of the person is unknown, eg “What silly cunt did that?” If the person is then revealed to be a woman, you would then switch to bitch; if a man, you can carry on calling him a silly cunt. Also, because Australia, cunt can be used as a term of endearment between men.
TY - This was my vague understanding of it. But I had to add the disclaimer bc in the US it's far more woman-specific, and not about being merely shitty or stupid.
 
IIRC When some minor employee was accused of #MeToo offenses or something at Onion Inc., VanDerWerff made a complaint with "I feel unsafe" which is a trigger phrase in HR departments everywhere that troons have been weaponizing for years to get people they don't like or go along with their tranny delusions fired. But "Emily" VanDerWerff lived like, 20 states and a time zone away. He never had to interact with this print supervisor or whatever the fuck.
It's actually far far far stupider.

Matthew Yglesias, who lived and worked in DC, and is a major progressive Democrat journalist (though lots of the hivemind media hates him for various reasons) signed the Harper's Letter about the importance of free speech and open debate. You know who also did? Jesse Singal and J.K. Rowling. This is what Todd, who lived and worked in LA, reported to their shared bosses as making things "unsafe" for Todd.

When this went public, Todd wrote some faggot ass tweet where he said he wasn't trying to get Yglesias fired, he was merely trying to make the company aware of a major safety issue in the workplace. (And if Yglesias got fired, well...)

Yglesias doesn't say this is why he left Vox exactly but his post about leaving Vox makes pretty well clear this is part of what helped him realize Vox was no longer the place he founded and was now run by lunatics rather than "explanatory journalists" as intended.

Here's Todd's "review" announcing The Handmaid's Tale got him off so hard he's a woman now: https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/...sgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff
Related BIG NEWS interview: https://www.npr.org/2019/06/09/731044423/the-handmaid-s-tale-and-coming-out-as-transgender
 
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