Warhammer 40k

New update for SM2 just dropped
And its just nerfs. Bolters need love, they needed it 2 patches ago.

I'm really sick of "the Imperium is totes awful you guys", especially now that we kicked into gear with a new cope that anything that shows the Imperium as good must be in-universe propaganda.

I don't know if it's people wanting to think the series is dark and mature or too stubborn with new lore that dials down the grimderp.

This is a complex issue ruined by Current year.

The Imperium should be a necessarily evil force, a lesser evil. The good guy because it is much better than the other guys.

It is a bad place not because the Imperium wants to be bad, but needs to be bad due to external forces like Chaos.

But nowdays its a big mess, they have to be progressive with custodettes and coloured folkxxx everywhere.

Yet they are also clearly evil Trumpfasssscissssts and they should feel bad and ashamed.
 
I'm only having fatigue because people aren't getting into the real reason this shit is being perpetuated and who the main actors are. Everyone is a grifter now...

Ahh I remember this guy, Commissar Gamza, he was most known for his theories of "who would survive 40k" videos. He's was sort of like a discount Arch and much like Arch (iirc) GW kicked his teeth in. I respected him mostly because he called out GW for their shitty behavior and helped people try and get into 3D printing for Warhammer with even his own STL files even if his personality didn't really vibe with me. Overall, not really bad. Of course the same people who hate Arch also celebrated his downfall, such as MajorKill(yourself).
I hope majorkill just fades out of existence he has taken the helm of normies first warhammer kore channel with his shitty 13 minutes videos. Atleast Arch went deep and gave us hours of content.

And ofcourse like a hypocrite he literally used nword on the daily and tried to dunk on Arch. Nowadays he just post videos with an Australian accent so terrible that I feel I am being sawed alive slowly
 
I'm seeing people rage about four Marines killing a Bio Tyrant, and suddenly the anger around Inquisitior allowing you to immolate dozens of Hetetic Astartes at once - as a five foot tall Nun - is incredibly tame.
I’m sorry, people are angry about characters doing epic yet improbable shit in a setting built around doing epic yet improbable shit?
 
I’m sorry, people are angry about characters doing epic yet improbable shit in a setting built around doing epic yet improbable shit?
It's actually funny because anyone complaining about the marines killing a bio titan haven't actually done the mission because it isn't like you're swinging at it with a chainsword. Same with the bitching about the hive tyrant, after it was already blown up, dropped multiple stories, had a building land on it, and was permanently impaled with a steel beam.

Also they sound like people who have never actually played tabletop, because situations where some bullshit little unit needs to take out a tank, wounds on a 6, tank fails a save, tank explodes and does damage to other nearby enemy shit does happen.
 
Sure, but this is the same GW that in the third war for Armageddon, as in the entire damned planet, only had 1.5 million guardsmen involved. Even the larger nations in WW1 mobilized more troops than that on their own(Germany, UK, US, Turkey, France, etc.). And for WW2 it's even more absurd as even Yugoslavia and Romania mobilized as many more more troops than that. Then you get shit in the siege of terra novels like a line of space marines in a trench(I think it was mostly white scars?) with an oncoming army of death guard, waiting till they were only 10 meters away before firing, what the fuck? These writers know fuck all about guns, vehicles, the military in general, and even historical conflicts. Especially with regard to Imperial Guard related grimderp, most of that shit is practically just WW1/II era fetish porn.
I'm willing to let a lot of that stuff slide. Not just for the reasons mentioned by others, but also because at some point you're making entertainment. I'm sure there's a place for hyper accuracy, like that episode of FireFly where they have to figure out how to fire a gun in space, but when people complain John Wick doesn't wear ear protection, that's a detail I don't think would improve the movies in way.

So yeah, in a setting with super human space knights with chainsaw swords, modern armies using World War era uniforms and tactics is fine to me. Though I like Pretorians so maybe I'm biased. I don't even mind Krieg much, it's more their internet fanbase won't shut up about them. Even pedantic nerds who complain about inaccuracies in tank design have a point, but the rule of cool works for me.

I’m sorry, people are angry about characters doing epic yet improbable shit in a setting built around doing epic yet improbable shit?
It's been a thing since Fire Warrior at least. I remember some guys headcanon that he was possessed by a chaos god or something in order to justify how one fire rookie fire warrior could take out dozens of space marines. I don't remember those kinds of complaints about Battle Sister, but that was a VR only game so nobody played it.
 
It's actually funny because anyone complaining about the marines killing a bio titan haven't actually done the mission because it isn't like you're swinging at it with a chainsword. Same with the bitching about the hive tyrant, after it was already blown up, dropped multiple stories, had a building land on it, and was permanently impaled with a steel beam.

Also they sound like people who have never actually played tabletop, because situations where some bullshit little unit needs to take out a tank, wounds on a 6, tank fails a save, tank explodes and does damage to other nearby enemy shit does happen.
Wait till you tell them during World War 2 there were several instances of a lone soldier holding back an entire battalion of troops single handedly on multiple occasions on both the allied and axis side.
Michael Wittmann
Günter Halm
both of these men turn the tides of the battles they will part of by the single acts of bravery
 
Sure, but this is the same GW that in the third war for Armageddon, as in the entire damned planet, only had 1.5 million guardsmen involved. Even the larger nations in WW1 mobilized more troops than that on their own(Germany, UK, US, Turkey, France, etc.). And for WW2 it's even more absurd as even Yugoslavia and Romania mobilized as many more more troops than that. Then you get shit in the siege of terra novels like a line of space marines in a trench(I think it was mostly white scars?) with an oncoming army of death guard, waiting till they were only 10 meters away before firing, what the fuck? These writers know fuck all about guns, vehicles, the military in general, and even historical conflicts. Especially with regard to Imperial Guard related grimderp, most of that shit is practically just WW1/II era fetish porn.
40K is always funny in army scale, either the fighting force is 0.001% of the world population or 10000%, no inbetween.
 
I'm willing to let a lot of that stuff slide. Not just for the reasons mentioned by others, but also because at some point you're making entertainment. I'm sure there's a place for hyper accuracy, like that episode of FireFly where they have to figure out how to fire a gun in space, but when people complain John Wick doesn't wear ear protection, that's a detail I don't think would improve the movies in way.

So yeah, in a setting with super human space knights with chainsaw swords, modern armies using World War era uniforms and tactics is fine to me. Though I like Pretorians so maybe I'm biased. I don't even mind Krieg much, it's more their internet fanbase won't shut up about them. Even pedantic nerds who complain about inaccuracies in tank design have a point, but the rule of cool works for me.
Oh sure, but people just tend to forget at times even when it isn't trying to be grimderp, just how fucking dumb the setting can be. It gets even dumber when people insist that the tabletop needs to be "lore accurate" when GW themselves can't determine what that is at this point.
40K is always funny in army scale, either the fighting force is 0.001% of the world population or 10000%, no inbetween.
Indeed, and that's fine. Until you get some autist who should be playing historicals and counting buttons on minis there instead of bothering people about armor marks, crying about some obscure regiment that hasn't had a mention anywhere in 20 years, etc.
 
New update for SM2 just dropped
I honestly didn't think it was possible for this game to get any worse. Sure it crashes constantly, usually on start up, so the game is already unplayable but at least the game crashing was the most it would do. Saber's gone the extra mile this time and now it does all that but if you have the balls to try to tab out of the game, because maybe you have dual monitors and want to use the rest of your PC, it'll just blue screen the whole system. Well done. I'm impressed by how bad a game can be and still get praised. Truly GOTY.
 
bothering people about armor marks
Now that I can (sometimes) not ruin transfer decals, I've been putting them on. I included the armor marks this time, if only for decorative purposes. All those Roman numerals for "companies"? Yeah, fuck that. I'm basically gonna use those as individual jersey numbers, so to speak.

Scrubbed and repainted my OG Dark Angels now that I'm more experienced. Though it took me a while to get a green shade I liked. My kitchen sink looks like the surface of Isstvan-3.
 
Also they sound like people who have never actually played tabletop, because situations where some bullshit little unit needs to take out a tank, wounds on a 6, tank fails a save, tank explodes and does damage to other nearby enemy shit does happen.
I've heard some real scary shit there. Like the Emperor's Champion who lost in close combat to some Fire Warriors on account of the Emperor the dice failing him.
And its just nerfs. Bolters need love, they needed it 2 patches ago.
That's what happens when you have team-based PvE/PvP and you're not allowed to have any of their different varieties of starter weapon stand out. There's way too many bolt weapons out there and Relic is terrified of making any of them a "superior" variant. Even though the Heavy Bolt Rifle is already the obvious best one due its combination of magazine size, range, and overall stability and accuracy. Meanwhile the basic bolt rifle is astoundingly mediocre and none of the carbines are fit to lick the empty magazine well of the SM1 storm bolter.
 
Now that I can (sometimes) not ruin transfer decals, I've been putting them on. I included the armor marks this time, if only for decorative purposes. All those Roman numerals for "companies"? Yeah, fuck that. I'm basically gonna use those as individual jersey numbers, so to speak.
Not quite what I meant. I was referring more to the "nuh uh, that legion didn't have access to whatever particular mk IIV pattern blah blah so you shouldn't have that mini in your army painted that way" type of armor marks.
I've heard some real scary shit there. Like the Emperor's Champion who lost in close combat to some Fire Warriors on account of the Emperor the dice failing him.
lol
 
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Not quite what I meant. I was referring more to the "nuh uh, that legion didn't have access to whatever particular mk IIV pattern blah blah so you shouldn't have that mini in your army painted that way" type of armor marks.
...Same difference? We're both referring to the kind of sperg who flips shit about minutia nobody cares about.
 
I'm seeing people rage about four Marines killing a Bio Tyrant
The series can be full of bullshit, at times. But at least they've actually let you aim and fire the starship-grade guns, this time.

However, shit is getting kind of boring unless they do something absurdly awesome. Like playing as an Dreadnought, for once.
 
I've heard some real scary shit there. Like the Emperor's Champion who lost in close combat to some Fire Warriors on account of the Emperor the dice failing him.

That's what happens when you have team-based PvE/PvP and you're not allowed to have any of their different varieties of starter weapon stand out. There's way too many bolt weapons out there and Relic is terrified of making any of them a "superior" variant. Even though the Heavy Bolt Rifle is already the obvious best one due its combination of magazine size, range, and overall stability and accuracy. Meanwhile the basic bolt rifle is astoundingly mediocre and none of the carbines are fit to lick the empty magazine well of the SM1 storm bolter.
git gud at aiming, scrub. The best bolter is the starting bolter on a headshot.
 
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