Video Game Chat Thread - Pre-Alpha Experimental Version

[Bonedome]

if I read one more headline about kink in Monster Hunter

Is this a joke or are we at that point?

 

[Endless Torment]

Is this a joke or are we at that point?

It's real

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Started a replay of Cyberpunk 2077 recently after beating it around two years ago. I always go with a female V because I think it's just a better VA performance and experience, but I'll make a lot of different choices and missions this time. But I am still amazed at how much CDPR cleaned this game up, and I think Edgerunners gave them the kick in the ass to really do that. It's almost bug-free compared to what it was in 2020, and the Phantom Liberty expansion is excellent. Story gets pretty emotional, especially near the end.
Might go with V suicide this time because it's heavy and I think it fits.

I enjoy Cyberpunk, not as much as RDR2, but I still honestly think its a decent game

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Depends on if you have any love for them and are saddened by the state they have been reduced to, or view them either as FOTM or a weird curiosity.

In an "objective" sense those big franchises that are still around are doing financially fine like SF6, Tekken 8 or GGST.

But they are also filled with egregious monetization, homogenized characters, underdeveloped system mechanics, issues with balancing in terms of schedule and direction etc. Worst of all is the unbelievable decision to make offense as fucking obnoxious as possible with a lot of Casino Royal and snowballing systems that award the aggressor while taking away more and more options for the defender resulting in a streamlined, noncreative, annoying and just bland type of gameplay loop. All under the assumption that it will help convert more casuals to buy into the ecosystem.

To be fair, a lot of those issue have been existing in some capacity forever, but it's more and more shit that gets pilled on top without making anything actually better. You would think that with the current online infrastructure, we would receive constant balance adjustments, but from my personal experience with SF6 and GGST that is not even remotely the case.

JP in SF6 is a prime example. The game comes out, character is undeniably overtuned. Instead of tweaking it consistently, it stays that way for an entire year for Capcom then to kneecap that character and then start reverting those balancing adjustments to end up in the same place where we started.

Anything that could logically be used to make fighting games better is either not utilized at all or twisted so we get a worse game every single time.

The issue of fighting games is that they became their own worst enemy. It's no longer a genre where you cycle games to play with your friends according to what's new, with some light single player content to have some extra things to do

Modern fighting games have the same structure as P2W games, if you've invested a ton of time training on the game then you'd have fun winning. If not, you'd quickly be frustrated and stop playing. The former group will stick to their game, especially id they stick to regular contenr patches. And the latter group will think twice before buying a fighting game again.

The 1v1 pvp, autism and nostalgia aspect of fighting games only make the crowd for them smaller. I don't think there's a single new fighting game franchise that is younger than ten years.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I enjoy Cyberpunk, not as much as RDR2, but I still honestly think its a decent game

Shame hacking was reduced to mining, basically. You do it for resources whereas previously you could clear a 'dungeon' by turning the turrets on the owners.

The issue of fighting games is that they became their own worst enemy. It's no longer a genre where you cycle games to play with your friends according to what's new, with some light single player content to have some extra things to do

Fighting games are a real sport. People talk about it all day, think they know them inside out, have a main despite not owning the game, and don't play even when given the best circumstances to actually do it. The same with RTS games. The only ones who pick them up after the age of 20 and stick to them are hyper-competitive/autistic enough to play them 8 hours a day for a week before moving on to something else.

"Oh well Tekken 8 is dogshit so surely they're out exploring other games", nope. People stick to a franchise til their death. If anything I'd think finally being given a reason to try other games would inspire them to, but it doesn't.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

is there a gaming news/editorial site worth reading left on the internet? I used to read Rock Paper Shotgun but now that the old guard is gone, it's gotten even more soy than its competition. if I read one more headline about kink in Monster Hunter or how some twee ass indie walking simulator is finally graduating games to Art or how one One Brave Nonprofit is solving the economic class "problem" in gamedev, I'm going to fucking scream.

I keep shilling bluesnews.com - it's the perfect phone site. It's a vidya news aggregate with light commentary on some things and a decades long track record of no political sperging or taking sides in stupid internet bullshit. The day after Jan 6:th he posted [paraphrased] "this is just a video game site, I shouldn't comment on these things" and the dude is almost definetely a Democrat.

 

[Calandrino]

I don't think there's a single new fighting game franchise that is younger than ten years.

Excluding indies it's closer to 30+ years, except for licensed games based on even older IPs like Dragon Ball, Injustice etc. Street Fighter will be 40 in two years. Biggest original fighting game IP to debut this millennium would be what, Skullgirls?

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Figured some people here could use a laugh or two, hopefully:

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Excluding indies it's closer to 30+ years, except for licensed games based on even older IPs like Dragon Ball, Injustice etc. Street Fighter will be 40 in two years. Biggest original fighting game IP to debut this millennium would be what, Skullgirls?

BlazBlue is the "newest" significant franchise with multiple entries that I can think of, and that's from 2008.

 

[BradeRunna]

I was watching a video the other day about Nintendo consoles and the Wii was mentioned. They talked about how the Wii was popular and even non gamers bought Wiis just for Wii Sports. But ignored the fact that all those copies of Wii Sports as well as Wiis ended up just sitting around in thrift stores. I remember years ago people even finding them in boxes bundled with the Wii. It seems like a lot of people just bought a Wii played Wii Sports a few times and then stuffed in a closet.

 

[Endless Torment]

BlazBlue is the "newest" significant franchise with multiple entries that I can think of, and that's from 2008.

BlazBlue is also dead for the foreseeable future.
Under Night In-Birth is the newest fighting game series I think.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

BlazBlue is also dead for the foreseeable future.
Under Night In-Birth is the newest fighting game series I think.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that series. For some reason I wrote it off as a licensed anime game, never played it or even saw any footage.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I was watching a video the other day about Nintendo consoles and the Wii was mentioned. They talked about how the Wii was popular and even non gamers bought Wiis just for Wii Sports. But ignored the fact that all those copies of Wii Sports as well as Wiis ended up just sitting around in thrift stores. I remember years ago people even finding them in boxes bundled with the Wii. It seems like a lot of people just bought a Wii played Wii Sports a few times and then stuffed in a closet.

That certainly describes at least a few people who I knew bought Wiis. Good thing Nintendo had Zelda and Mario to keep the attach rate high.

I keep shilling bluesnews.com - it's the perfect phone site. It's a vidya news aggregate with light commentary on some things and a decades long track record of no political sperging or taking sides in stupid internet bullshit. The day after Jan 6:th he posted [paraphrased] "this is just a video game site, I shouldn't comment on these things" and the dude is almost definetely a Democrat.

Cool rec, thanks. They mentioned Project Road Trip...it sounds awesome for American Truck Simulator and would probably get me back in again but it probably needs something to do. Yeah, driving in American Truck Simulator is the comfiest part but I feel like they need to add more to the game world to really sell it.

 

[BradeRunna]

That certainly describes at least a few people who I knew bought Wiis. Good thing Nintendo had Zelda and Mario to keep the attach rate high.



Cool rec, thanks. They mentioned Project Road Trip...it sounds awesome for American Truck Simulator and would probably get me back in again but it probably needs something to do. Yeah, driving in American Truck Simulator is the comfiest part but I feel like they need to add more to the game world to really sell it.

At least people will get a system in good condition that can play Wii games and GC games.

 

[J50 Hamwich]

 

[I Know 孤独のせい]

Usually I wait a long time to buy any game nowadays, lacking interest in most new releases coupled with DLC and patch cycles for months and years and whatnot, but to my own surprise I am kinda intrigued for stuff next week. City of Wolves could be the first fighting game with actual defense in years, if not decades, Clair Obscur looks like quite the unique JRPG and Tempest Rising is an old school RTS. Kinda want to play them all next week, which I wouldn't have imagined considering the state of the video games industry.

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Usually I wait a long time to buy any game nowadays, lacking interest in most new releases coupled with DLC and patch cycles for months and years and whatnot, but to my own surprise I am kinda intrigued for stuff next week. City of Wolves could be the first fighting game with actual defense in years, if not decades, Clair Obscur looks like quite the unique JRPG and Tempest Rising is an old school RTS. Kinda want to play them all next week, which I wouldn't have imagined considering the state of the video games industry.

I find Clair Obscur really aesthetically ugly and the hype is very confusing to me.

 

[I Know 孤独のせい]

I find Clair Obscur really aesthetically ugly and the hype is very confusing to me.

I think the hype boils down to a couple of things. It's a semi, production wise, big JPRG not from Japan. Apart from Persona, what else is there ? If I am not mistaken, most JRPGS are either indies or remakes nowadays. So no competition in an often maligned genre that is getting attention. It's French, so it will probably to some extent adhere to European design principles, which is always a breath of fresh air in an industry dominated by the US and Japan. Aesthetically, it seems to be unique, no Knights or Space Marines. So it stands out. And so far not political charged, i.e. the women are attractive, for example.

Edit: And it seems to be a passion project, which we don't get too often.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I think the hype boils down to a couple of things. It's a semi, production wise, big JPRG not from Japan. Apart from Persona, what else is there ? If I am not mistaken, most JRPGS are either indies or remakes nowadays. So no competition in an often maligned genre that is getting attention. It's French, so it will probably to some extent adhere to European design principles, which is always a breath of fresh air in an industry dominated by the US and Japan. Aesthetically, it seems to be unique, no Knights or Space Marines. So it stands out. And so far not political charged, i.e. the women are attractive, for example.

Edit: And it seems to be a passion project, which we don't get too often.

That pretty much covers it. Its popularity is extremely circumstantial.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Whenever I'm outside I find myself yearning to play naturalistic games. theHunter, Planet Zoo, Going Medieval. Slow games about building and stimulating something close to reality. Then I come home, look at my Steam library and realize there's nothing worth really engaging with. Either it's PvP shit like Age of Empires that I know I'm too old and jaded to get into, or it's score chasing shit like theHunter which is just an endless loop of hoping the next buck has big antlers.

I really quite enjoy Going Medieval since it's 3D Rimworld set in a medieval era with a fuckton of frequent, huge EA updates that I can't suggest enough for anyone remotely into that genre, but it's still just a loop. Build, get bored, restart, repeat. I need games I can beat and put away. Plenty of medieval'esque (J)RPGs these days but I don't fuck with 60 hour adventures. I get into these grooves of genuinely wanting to play a bunch of games only to attempt so in a disconnected mood and then I uninstall them and move on.

I am intensely influenced by other people. I can be finally feeling like playing SF6 only to read a single comment going "nah dawg I had to quit" and I immediately lose all interest. I used to be able to play games despite a bad mechanic or feature but these days it just completely turns me off of them. I wanna just play timesink games like Stardew but I just can't. I'd rather be reading or cleaning at that point.