DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

[Kheapathic]

I don't know anything about legal stuff either but I doubt it. Raw Phil seems to me to be exactly what the copyright law is saying is against the rules. It makes money off the work, it doesn't transform the work, it isn't taking a smaller section of a larger whole, and as the Good Brazillian pointed out it clearly takes money that would otherwise go to DSP. Even if detractors wouldn't give DSP views if alternatives didn't exist (yeah right) you have dents accidentally tipping Raw Phil when they meant to tip DSP. If having a place to chat was transformative enough I'd imagine you would have have websites streaming new movies for free with a chat alongside it.

Not a legal person, but also thought that part of copyright is proving damages. Does Phil honestly think that people going to Raw Phil are really DSP fans who'd give him views, money, and support if there were no other options; yes. But, without deposing or having hundreds of people write statements, can we really prove that those hundreds of people who use Raw Phil et al, would be willing to support Phil? How many of the restream viewers have been banned from DSP? Phil himself even says that most of his money is from tips/donations and that his YouTube CPM is shit and that secondary views don't matter; the sandwich shop proprietor himself says what he'd make is negligible. Now put those two things together, and you have Phil saying he thinks we'd all open our wallets to him if there were no other options.

Out of all the detractors, I'm willing to say Raw Phil is the one Phil has the best case against, and even willing to say it could go 50/50 if a lawsuit did happen.

If Phil was serious about sticking it to detractors; he'd bug his audience to figure out how YouTube's Copyright Claim system works (literally not that hard, but it's Phil) and start exercising his authority over his kahntent. Though, thinking of Phil bringing anyone to court, I'd love to explain to the judge how there's a whole cottage industry built up around making fun of Phil. "Your Honor, the community made a search engine to locate anytime this man has said dumb shit. Yes, an entire search engine dedicated to him running his mouth. Phil's content isn't the content Your Honor, his retarded behavior is the content."

There is and never was anything keeping Phil from going back to Twitch except Phil's own ego.

Phil and his use of unprofessional is why I hate a lot of modern workplaces. While it's easy to get mad at Phil for being a retard, I've worked with a number of people who think "professionalism" is only benefitting them when and where they deem it acceptable. You try working with someone and they're not having it so you go around them; that's unprofessional. You do something like send out an email as soon as possible; but due to workload and urgency you do it late in the day when someone had already left, they then complain that they were waiting all day and you wasted their time; you're unprofessional. Twitch jumping the gun on what was probably at least a dozen people reporting Phil for saying the nigger word; unprofessional. Keem or that CT Realtor wanting to have a phone call with Phil, and not sticking to his retarded schedule; unprofessional. I hate to say it, but Phil isn't a unique specimen in this regard, there are plenty of corpo types like this; where they have the idea they're a professional, and all it really means is they don't want to be inconvenienced.

 

[INirvana]

Why does Phil want to play and beat this Blue Prince game so badly? Is he trying to prove something while having his hand held throughout the game? He's bad at puzzles, what's the point?

 

[Pargon]

I dunno what this umamusume game is, but a quick google search looks likes its a hot meme gatcha game based around fuckable anime horse girls? How fucking funny and suited to phil, and of course he would never play it and miss such a great business opportunity.

I generally hate gay ops and think they are retarded but I have nothing but respect for the genius that is blowing smoke up phils ass behind the scenes and gas lighting our boy into thinking its a good idea to go after everyone legally.

I think gay ops are only when your opsec sucks or you otherwise embarrass yourself during the planning and/or execution, or you run to the phonebooking website for your afterparty. Otherwise it’s just ops, which are good things.

And considering the staggering levels of autism in the greater Snortex I gotta figure anyone behind this would’ve been found out if they didn’t know what they were doing.

Good post, ain’t gainsaying you. Phil being directly puppeted for someone’s amusement is karmic and funny enough that I’m accepting it as headcanon absent evidence to the contrary and it’s plausible enough for me that I’m in minimal danger of being called a faggot if it’s not true and I try to play it off as pretending to be retarded.

If they’re posting/lurking here, keep your trap shut and keep the good work up. This has potential.

 

[Synechdoche]

I hate to say it, but Phil isn't a unique specimen in this regard, there are plenty of corpo types like this; where they have the idea they're a professional, and all it really means is they don't want to be inconvenienced.

He's somewhat like a mid-level bureaucrat.
A little bit of authority goes right to his head. And everybody above him is only there, because they're evil/underhanded. Unless, he is in their presence, then he's sucking up to them, like recently with Justin Wong or with Keemstar ...

 

[Kheapathic]

Why does Phil want to play and beat this Blue Prince game so badly? Is he trying to prove something while having his hand held throughout the game? He's bad at puzzles, what's the point?

That's what I've been wondering, and guessing it may have something to do with once puzzle games are figured out, it's just going through the motions to complete them; and Phil may want to say he completed it. Though there may be something else, and dare I say, for whatever reason, Phil actually likes the game. I'm sure it's fine for people who enjoy this kind of thing; but I hate how a lot of indie games rely on RNG for content. Yes it's a puzzle games, and puzzle games are usually quick to be figured out and guides written that kill everything; because the skill is more mental than kinetic, so there's not even a performance requirement, just answer the question. But throw in RNG and I'm gonna nope the fuck out; no idea why Phil refuses to drop it. I know he said he would after today, but I'm gonna wager if he doesn't get the true ending or whatever he's going for, he'll continue with it.

 

[Cardinal Cardinal]

I've said this ages ago but personally I think that the only classes he probably half understood and half paid attention to during college were marketing classes. The term "detractor" itself is a marketing term and a lot of the schemes and scams he pulls try to use basic marketing strategies such as FOMO or priming. The roots of modern marketing come from WWII-era propaganda and one of the strategies employed was making your enemies seem both extremely weak and an existential threat at the same time.

I think it was on Friday that Kino Casino was watching televangelists from the 80's and it instantly reminded me of the guy. Saying how they Need that money (they really do) for the church bills. Some were brazen enough just to say God wants you to give me your money because you're money SHOULD be going to God.
It also reminded me of the Insane Clown Posse skit from "Hallelujah" on their "Great Malinko" album with the priest saying "Give God the first portion of ya income".

Spoiler: Give it first!

 

[Lord_Point]

That's what I've been wondering, and guessing it may have something to do with once puzzle games are figured out, it's just going through the motions to complete them; and Phil may want to say he completed it. Though there may be something else, and dare I say, for whatever reason, Phil actually likes the game. I'm sure it's fine for people who enjoy this kind of thing; but I hate how a lot of indie games rely on RNG for content. Yes it's a puzzle games, and puzzle games are usually quick to be figured out and guides written that kill everything; because the skill is more mental than kinetic, so there's not even a performance requirement, just answer the question. But throw in RNG and I'm gonna nope the fuck out; no idea why Phil refuses to drop it. I know he said he would after today, but I'm gonna wager if he doesn't get the true ending or whatever he's going for, he'll continue with it.

I had fun for a couple hours on blue prince but its barely a puzzle game. Nothing really gets much more complex than see puzzle in room A, find solution in room B on the next run, hope to find room A again in a future run. A lot of times the clues are just ham fisted "hit the secret button here to open gate" you didnt really puzzle out anything, you just waited for RNG to hand you the solution. Late game I knew which items I wanted to see, which rooms I needed connected, but would have to spend 20 minutes on a run to see if RNG gave them so I could solve the next 'puzzle'.

I noticed when blue prince was red hot a lot of midwits were singing this game praises for being such a deep puzzle game. I think a lot of people (phil included) just fuck around with RNG layouts until a solution presents itself and it makes them feel like they big brained a giant mystery. I think hes obsessed with 100% completing the game because it will make him feel like a big brain genius and dunk on the detractors that he 100% solved the hardest puzzle in super hard puzzle game! (despite using guides and dents)

 

[Spirelord: Downfall]

I dunno what this umamusume game is, but a quick google search looks likes its a hot meme gatcha game based around fuckable anime horse girls? How fucking funny and suited to phil, and of course he would never play it and miss such a great business opportunity.

It's about raising a racing horse woman into a professional runner over a 3 year career (~72 turns, 24 per year) while battling RNG events and RNG training failures at low energy, problems to be gambled with or risks mitigated for lesser reward or benefits that could make or break the run depending on gacha sourced cards used. There's a whole pedigree gambling system based on previous runs' horses being 'parents/grandparents' and passing skills/running & track aptitude down and studding out your best horses or using studs to help boost your genetics based on how your run went, which doesn't even guarantee good genes even after a perfect run for them. While there's guides for the events their occurrences are random and unreliable unless levelled to a certain amount, hell even the borrowed cards system can be fucked with at the whim of the whale in charge of your borrowed giga boosted meta card if they feel like swapping it for something you don't want. Fuck, half of the game is the VN about helping the horses achieve certain goals and how they can have parallels taken from their real life counterparts, from personality to history of injury to races and who's in them to even their accessories showing what sex their real life versions are.

This game is literally Phil's kryptonite including it being a rogue-lite with long term genetics planning/RNG and gacha being the primary meta progression and post race idol music concerts that he'll sperg out over and go full clown during; because this game expects you to not take it deathly serious but to at least enjoy it for the absurdity it is, play it lax but straight if you will- and while lazy as fuck, Phil is anything but lax or straight. If Phil somehow got past the intro/tutorial (and by god with all the women it would be a struggle for him) he'd get scared by the cards or the genetics or being expected to lose sometimes (race or run, either or) and would ditch it over it "not respecting my progress or my time" (despite housing every single trophy you ever earn, with which horse you got it with, and how many times the horse did it, or how the horses would be less shit if he played less shit).

I'm genuinely perplexed at how he thought this was a good idea, especially if his niggerfaggot ass gets addicted to pulling horse women he's repulsed by.

 

[Onepumpplumpchump]

Which holds absolutely no value coming from him, since he was catering to and agreeing with Twitch and their rules for years. He even went as far as lecturing his viewers based on Twitch their Terms of Service.

Flashback to February 2021:

Says "retard"
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Later, he lectured his viewers on why you shouldn't say "retard"
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After he stopped streaming at Twitch, he did a complete 180 again - after initially doing a 180, because he used to say retard and faggot etc. a lot before streaming on Twitch - and started saying retard again when he started live streaming on Youtube, completely memory-holing his holier-than-thou lectures about "the r-word".

Recent example (end of May this year):
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DSP will always be the worst person for proving any point, no matter how sensible said point seems, because 99 out of a 100 times he has done or will do something completely opposite of what he's advocating for. He's a slimy, two-faced leech that latches onto anything as long as it's profitable for him. The man has zero real values when it comes to his "job".

Yeah Phil is definitely a piece of shit I find this hilarious coming from him. He is a hypocritical sociopath. All he fucking cares about is making a buck.

 

[neger psykolog]

DSP will always be the worst person for proving any point, no matter how sensible said point seems, because 99 out of a 100 times he has done or will do something completely opposite of what he's advocating for. He's a slimy, two-faced leech that latches onto anything as long as it's profitable for him. The man has zero real values when it comes to his "job".

I respect DSP already and will respect him even more if he comes out and says nigger.

 

[Cucktry Roads]

I respect DSP already and will respect him even more if he comes out and says nigger.

 

[Prince Lotor]

Again, for the people thinking Phil's parents are secretly sitting on massive piles of cash while living in a duplex with massive retirement funds waiting in the wings: they are not.

In 2013 Phil did a few segments on Ask the Pig where he said that his dad had cashed in his 30 year retirement fund after losing his job. So any retirement fund Dave has would be just from the last 10 years.

Also as I was watching these videos it hit me that 2012-2013 was the height of Phil making like $10K-$20K on YouTube ad revenue per month and this fat piece of shit never once thought to float his out of work dad a couple grand a month so he wouldn't have to cash in his retirement fund to stay afloat.
This is the same era where Phil brags about how he was blowing $1K per month at ThinkGeek.com buying caffeine lollipops and shit. The same time period where he starts leasing a BMW.
Then 2 1/2 years later after Phil takes out a loan for a 2nd condo Phil is begging his daddy to help pay his 2016 unpaid taxes, and then pockets the amount his dad gave him that was over the amount he needed for taxes.

Phil is a gigantic piece of shit and I hope he dies a slow crushing cartoon death like getting run over by a steamroller or something. Fuck Phil.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Again, for the people thinking Phil's parents are secretly sitting on massive piles of cash while living in a duplex with massive retirement funds waiting in the wings: they are not.

Yeah I don't get where people got the idea that Phil's parents were loaded. If we're betting then I'd say Phil is getting nothing and Dave and Linda's money will have been spent on their retirement and medical bills. As for their home, Phil ain't gettin that either since it'll probably have a reverse mortgage on it or have to be sold to settle Dave and Linda's estate.

 

[DarkFuhDillz]

Yeah I don't get where people got the idea that Phil's parents were loaded. If we're betting then I'd say Phil is getting nothing and Dave and Linda's money will have been spent on their retirement and medical bills. As for their home, Phil ain't gettin that either since it'll probably have a reverse mortgage on it or have to be sold to settle Dave and Linda's estate.

Also since I’m going through this right now. My aunt knew she was dying and just started charging the credit card 5-10 times a day on QVC and it all just got shoved in a closet and never opened. Died with massive debt and the house is being sold to cover the debts of the estate

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

Yeah Phil is definitely a piece of shit I find this hilarious coming from him. He is a hypocritical sociopath. All he fucking cares about is making a buck.

Yeah, like today with his twitch protecting “LIBERAL LEFTIES!” rant proves it. He has a long history of demanding any streaming service to protect him from “bad speech” making fun of him. Look at YouTube, he always bitch about anybody making fun of the May 1st burst. Hell, he will still ban you for making fun of it. Phil is as two faced as it comes.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Yeah, like today with his twitch protecting “LIBERAL LEFTIES!” rant proves it. He has a long history of demanding any streaming service to protect him from “bad speech” making fun of him. Look at YouTube, he always bitch about anybody making fun of the May 1st burst. Hell, he will still ban you for making fun of it. Phil is as two faced as it comes.

It's also kinda funny because, as far as we know, Phil was receiving that protection. My Phil lore might be a little shaky, but IIRC, he got mass reported because he said something that sounded offensive (nigger or retard or something) and while he got an initial slap on the wrist ban, they actually reversed it pretty quickly when it was just Phil's stroke lip making it sound like he said a forbidden gamer word.

The actual reason he got kicked from the partner program was because he'd been ignoring their TOS about needing to wait to upload your content to YouTube for what I assume was literal years, since I think he was always doing it in the Twitch days. He likes to claim otherwise, but he accidentally read an email aloud around the time it happened, only to stop when he realized it didn't have anything to do with detractors and didn't fit his narrative. There were a few times his account got flagged for hateful language or whatever, but I don't remember it ever resulting in more than a few slaps on the wrist, again, because of Twitch protecting him. Twitch was always incredibly generous to Phil, and I still maintain he'd be making more if he stayed on Twitch versus making the jump to YouTube because Twitch makes it easier for his paypigs to whale out with the way membership work, and the free twitch prime sub helped his dolphins. He'd have avoided his war with Argentina if he was on Twitch.

 

[BPD Gunt Rider]

Yeah I don't get where people got the idea that Phil's parents were loaded. If we're betting then I'd say Phil is getting nothing and Dave and Linda's money will have been spent on their retirement and medical bills. As for their home, Phil ain't gettin that either since it'll probably have a reverse mortgage on it or have to be sold to settle Dave and Linda's estate.

Dave has had a good job for many decades and they've stayed in that shit duplex in a trash area of Bridgeport their entire lives. They're not loaded, but it's reasonable to think they may have saved a nice nest egg. Although, it may just be because Linda wastes money on everything, where Phil learned his ways.

 

[Iron Hamster]

DSP getting 4th place literally made EVO changes how they run games at their events.

It doesn't take long to see what a fraud he his.

HE'S STILL ASSMAD OVER THE STUPID COLOGNE REVIEW SUGGESTION.

Seriously, how long has this gone on? I thought him being a whiny bitch over the Burger King incident was bad...

Because it means he can't do his no effort nontent and collect money just for existing.

I think DSP has a case against Raw Phil and Raw Phil alone. What I don’t think he has is a clear path to damages. How can Phil claim that people on a channel made to mock him would have given him that money instead? They already had that chance and chose to sub to Raw Phil. Raw Phil does not prevent people from tipping Phil.

Phil probably could get Raw Phil taken down, but is it worth the time, money, and effort when he'd still have a bunch of other transformative restreamers parodying him? Even Phil knows it's not, which is why he's talked about it for 15 years but has never done shit.

I just had a wild thought. Phail actually sues and discovery shows all the money he is getting is only from those same detractors.

But the blackmail threat has no teeth because everyone knows he won't sue.

And blackmail is, ya know, kinda actually illegal.

Linda should've smoked more

Negro pole, yes.

has the right to give and revoke the rights

Phail has laid out an ironclad case that this can't happen. See: EvilAJ gave me permission

phail is currently on a manic rant about how he would have TOTALLY DESTROYED twitch in a lolsuit over his revoked twitch partnership because he thinks they cant just "cancel the contract" and theyre unprofessional dumb kids who can kiss his fucking ass

It really is fascinating how stupid he is sometimes.

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[00R-Gundam]

Dsp is or he will play Uma Musume? That game will destroy dsp because of its RNG and its punishing if you dont know what the fuck youre doing. Out of all the gacha games to contemplate this is the least one. That said in the eventuality that he plays, maybe he will like El Condor Pasa(mexican wrestling horse)

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

Dsp is or he will play Uma Musume? That game will destroy dsp because of its RNG and its punishing if you dont know what the fuck youre doing. Out of all the gacha games to contemplate this is the least one. That said in the eventuality that he plays, maybe he will like El Condor Pasa(mexican wrestling horse)

Most likely not. Uma is a passing fad (hell, the anime isn’t even popular here). It will pass out of the spotlight even before he gets done pulling hogans