Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[SinglePlayerCarl]

A thought:

I find it interesting that nobody has gone in really hard on Nick or Ty for reading Kiwifarms and availing themselves of our weaponized autism. I thought for sure that was gonna happen.

I know they said it on Nick's streams, and none of these people can be arsed to watch said streams, but I'm wondering if they're pulling their punches because @MarzGurl was here?



I find his dramatization amusing, TBH. I especially like how he divided Ren into stages of rage. He's also really good at collecting and collating info. He's doing what the site expects. Just let him.

I call back to my point earlier:

If using KF as a source is wrong, what justifies biased sources such as the talking heads of #KickVic, ANN, shill media, PULL and Lauren?


KF isn't even biased, from my observations of @Null 's coverage of Mad At The Internet Content.

So if the arguement is: "BUT THEY'RE BIASED!", maybe.

KF's just reporting the facts and showing people's own information and stance to be bullshit, because they're being hypocrites and actively obscuring information that condemns them.

PULL and #KickVic are actively trying to construct a narrative and documented lies, KF's just repeating the Play-by-Play recaps to and for the access of the public, and making the dramatization and additional secondary information entertaining to watch and recap.

In short, I'm literally doing my job.

Literally nothing wrong with making your news informative and entertaining, because it also can help give color commentary on Why This Matters™:

Frame of reference and context.

Someone a few dozen pages back liked the Kiwifarms autism to that of a sniper. And snipers know how to camouflage.

The less people know about this place the better. It'll be all the better when a metric asston of archives are dumped and people are all "wait who did this?"

Mainly because of this.

Put into context:

People have been told a man is a rapist and the public was primed and coaxed into the natural knee-jerk reaction to Unga-Bunga™.

Information from a aggregation site, media sites,and a forum from outside the Overton Window then blindsides the masses, showing how the movement was based on a lie.

Well timed information dumps given to the public through grass-roots means trends to the top of social media, "curing" the poisoned well everyone was drinking from.

A site tries to claim that the cure came from a problematic site

The targeted site reveals how the person who started the movement came to this site for fact-finding reasons for a previously successful media smear/truth revelation campaign and poses the question:

"If we were good enough to be a source then, how are we not to be trusted now? We have proof that you've been lying and suppressing information, attempting to slander and destroy us after using us for your own goals ensures your mutual destruction of yourself and the site you're using to entice and stoke the fires."

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If you were a normie, and were given all of the logs and information about #KickVic and #IStandWithVic including this archive we've amassed, who would you be inclined to believe?

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[Archeopthryx]

That would be the only other reason I could think of. Though he's had @Null on his show multiple times, and for his trouble, Nick was mentioned in at least one New Zealand news article. The Nick and Null connection would certainly be an expected attack vector, but it's interesting they really haven't really touched it.

I just note that the girl who literally came up with the hashtag #KickVic has an account here. That could be "problematic," and why they don't want to make much hay over it.

#marzfromthefarms

 

[Palpatine]

Nick is now claiming that Monica leaked her contract to ANN to coerce Komehacon to nullify the contract, but how does that even work? The articles of the contract doesn't sound overly outragous or anything.

 

[TheClappening]

I call back to my point earlier:If using KF as a source is wrong, what justifies biased sources such as the talking heads of #KickVic, ANN, shill media and Lauren?

I doubt BHBH would even use us an as official source, anyway. I doubt Carey's going to up to a judge and say "Kiwifarms user XxOvenTheJewsxX discovered this tweet. This is proof, your honor." The archives here just point them in the right direction. So during deposition she might ask "Ms. Rial, on February 12th, at approximately 7PM, you made a tweet. What was the content of that tweet?"

Or it gives them a timeframe for subpoenas.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Nick is now claiming that Monica leaked her contract to ANN to coerce Komehacon to nullify the contract, but how does that even work? The articles of the contract doesn't sound overly outragous or anything.

If she did then she is a complete moron. Even the biased ANN article made it clear that she was wrong.

 

[BoxofMonkeys]

Nick is now claiming that Monica leaked her contract to ANN to coerce Komehacon to nullify the contract, but how does that even work? The articles of the contract doesn't sound overly outragous or anything.

Someones too stupid to understand the difference between nullifying a contract and breaching one. Other than that I can only image the thought that goes through her head is "words, what do they mean".

 

[MAPK phosphatase]

I doubt BHBH would even use us an as official source, anyway. I doubt Carey's going to up to a judge and say "Kiwifarms user XxOvenTheJewsxX discovered this tweet. This is proof, your honor."

Yeah but that would be pretty funny to see a screenshot of one of @Archeopthryx 's posts appear in discovery. Profile picture and everything.

 

[Urbanmech]

I doubt BHBH would even use us an as official source, anyway. I doubt Carey's going to up to a judge and say "Kiwifarms user XxOvenTheJewsxX discovered this tweet. This is proof, your honor." The archives here just point them in the right direction. So during deposition she might ask "Ms. Rial, on February 12th, at approximately 7PM, you made a tweet. What was the content of that tweet?"

Or it gives them a timeframe for subpoenas.

Yea it will fall into this. I think Ty did say they just have to validate what they had and he made it sound pretty simple for them.

 

[Captain Manning]

BTW, I don't know if anybody picked up on this yet, but Sarah's brother is FLORIDA MAN, and Sarah admits he's not very bright.

It's always fucking Florida Man, and nobody ever argues Florida Man is smart.

This had also been pretty extensively covered by the media if you type Brad Wiedenheft into Google. If she had just gone to the damn convention, fewer people would have even picked up on this. It's news again because of her.

I doubt BHBH would even use us an as official source, anyway. I doubt Carey's going to up to a judge and say "Kiwifarms user XxOvenTheJewsxX discovered this tweet. This is proof, your honor." The archives here just point them in the right direction. So during deposition she might ask "Ms. Rial, on February 12th, at approximately 7PM, you made a tweet. What was the content of that tweet?"

Or it gives them a timeframe for subpoenas.

Agreed. We point towards the info. We're not the source of the info. And thank God for that.

 

[BoxofMonkeys]

Just a random thought re: discovery. In the US you can't legally force a journalist to divulge their sources but does the same hold true in Canuckistan? Could ANN be compelled to give up their sources?

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

I doubt BHBH would even use us an as official source, anyway. I doubt Carey's going to up to a judge and say "Kiwifarms user XxOvenTheJewsxX discovered this tweet. This is proof, your honor." The archives here just point them in the right direction. So during deposition she might ask "Ms. Rial, on February 12th, at approximately 7PM, you made a tweet. What was the content of that tweet?"

Or it gives them a timeframe for subpoenas.

Well, that's my main point: When/if an inevitable verification of the tweets arrive via a subpoena, that archive is going to give an at-a-glance time reference source for BHBH, but more importantly as a valuable explainer and detailed timeline of all of the actions and statements from the persons of interest for the normies.

That kind of power is a panacea to dispelling toxicity based in lies, it empowers the reader with information and assurance that they are not crazy for resisting the brainwashing.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

I doubt BHBH would even use us an as official source, anyway. I doubt Carey's going to up to a judge and say "Kiwifarms user XxOvenTheJewsxX discovered this tweet. This is proof, your honor." The archives here just point them in the right direction. So during deposition she might ask "Ms. Rial, on February 12th, at approximately 7PM, you made a tweet. What was the content of that tweet?"

Or it gives them a timeframe for subpoenas.

Pretty much this, as Primarch Tyberius stated in the last live stream he was on, our archiving saves them some time but they have to get it fully confirmed and verified. Us archiving straight away stops their targets from just deleting shit and pretending nothing ever happened, which would increase their time having to research.

Our freebie service just makes it so they can go "Check this tweet at this time and date. Is it still there?"

 

[BoxofMonkeys]

Thanks for all the hard work but please don't run yourself into the ground.


People will make a waifu out of fucking anything these days.

So because of rule 34 there's a waifu of the reewhale snusnuing some poor kid?

 

[Megaroad]

Sarah's tweets about her brother:
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She deleted them, but big brother Google doesn't forget so quickly.
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JFC! I know I just gave a feels story in A&H about having a friend being guilty of having CP but 3 to 10 years old just makes you a monster.

 

[TheClappening]

Our freebie service just makes it so they can go "Check this tweet at this time and date. Is it still there?"

"No, it's not? Deleted on March 24th? I could've sworn you received the spoilation of evidence letter one week prior, Mr. Sabat."

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

BTW, I don't know if anybody picked up on this yet, but Sarah's brother is FLORIDA MAN, and Sarah admits he's not very bright.

It's always fucking Florida Man, and nobody ever argues Florida Man is smart.

This had also been pretty extensively covered by the media if you type Brad Wiedenheft into Google. If she had just gone to the damn convention, fewer people would have even picked up on this. It's news again because of her.

This is the best part of all this: The Farms isn't culpable as really being responsible -- the people who have been leading the sham movement is, because they brought this scrutiny and attention to themselves.

They're the ones that made this a trial by public opinion -- they just didn't plan on being prosecuted themselves.

Agreed. We point towards the info. We're not the source of the info. And thank God for that.

And that's the beauty of it. All we did was collate and dump what was public into a place where it couldn't be erased.

When people pick up those pitchforks, they're going to go after their "brave leaders" like Gaddafi was reportedly killed by his own people for how corrupt he was.

Hoist by their own petards.

 

[Clockwork Dragon]

If she did then she is a complete moron. Even the biased ANN article made it clear that she was wrong.

She honestly does seem dumb as dirt. She has made one after another errors of different types, and continues to do so. I guess it doesn't take much brain power to do different voices. We've all got talents.

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

She honestly does seem dumb as dirt. She has made one after another errors of different types, and continues to do so. I guess it doesn't take much brain power to do different voices. We've all got talents.

It really doesn't, to be honest and a little bit serious.

Everything that I've explained about VA and how it works is something literally everyone can learn, but the technical stuff?

Mainly the vocal information? That's shit you only learn in a musicial arts college, or from years of vocal training in show choir, of which I've done both.

They'll pay your average joe off the street $50 per hour in a WALLA session, just for doing a ensemble casting call.

This job really isnt that hard, vocally. The sunken cost is in the tech and the social media managing to become "known".

 

[Drip Feed]

I been sleeping so i know im late but i wake up to what i called earlier, this is scummy, i know niggas gotta eat but they could have done this for free as if to "stick it to the con" it just makes them look like worse, for the fans my ass.

So shes not only dividing the community but also taking money from the con.

Edit:
Saw this on her timeline, finger looks infected

 

[repentance]

Well, that's my main point: When/if an inevitable verification of the tweets arrive via a subpoena, that archive is going to give an at-a-glance time reference source for BHBH, but more importantly as a valuable explainer and detailed timeline of all of the actions and statements from the persons of interest for the normies.

Normies do not care about this any more than they cared about GG or CG.